Are teengers really that dense?
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I'm 18 and I realized how stupid social media sites like Facebook were when I was still in highschool. The only reason I made a profile in the first place was because a friend (at the time) all but forced me.
Deleted my profile and haven't had one since.
Deleted my profile and haven't had one since.
Honestly, yes teenagers are that dumb, but when you were a teenager you were that dumb. Between the ages of 12-18 people generally do some of the more stupider things in there life like smoking, drinking and doing drugs. Think back to when you were as a teenager. When I look back I see an overemotional idiot, and because of this I took everything someone said about me personally. Its only when I reached 16 that I stopped being so serious and learnt just to have a laugh and not give a crap.
Most teenagers are like this, blowing everything out of proportion and taking everything personally. So when your a teenager and someone says "Your useless, go kill yourself" online, they think that they those people generally mean it and they a hurt by the comments. So if there's a large influx of comments from people online, no matter who they are, it can lead to these people becoming depressed and killing them selfs. Especially with the most resent "Cyber Bully Suicide" were the comments were made on a personal post she made making the comments all too real for her.
The only thing that we can do is make sure that if these teenagers really feel that bad about them selfs, then for them to go and seek help. We don't need people to stop being anonymous and we don't need to blame sites for how they run there forums. We need to educate people about trolls on the internet and how to avoid them as well as show people how little comments on the internet mean.
So yes teenagers are that dumb, and so were you at somepoint
Most teenagers are like this, blowing everything out of proportion and taking everything personally. So when your a teenager and someone says "Your useless, go kill yourself" online, they think that they those people generally mean it and they a hurt by the comments. So if there's a large influx of comments from people online, no matter who they are, it can lead to these people becoming depressed and killing them selfs. Especially with the most resent "Cyber Bully Suicide" were the comments were made on a personal post she made making the comments all too real for her.
The only thing that we can do is make sure that if these teenagers really feel that bad about them selfs, then for them to go and seek help. We don't need people to stop being anonymous and we don't need to blame sites for how they run there forums. We need to educate people about trolls on the internet and how to avoid them as well as show people how little comments on the internet mean.
So yes teenagers are that dumb, and so were you at somepoint
Ah, ask.fm, truly, our greatest invention to offset all those immigrants. I think she is like the 3rd person to kill herself because of it. I am surprised no one over here has done it, considering its popularity.
As a Latvian, I believe Ask.Fm should burn in hell for being yet another useless social media site for "yoloswagger" teenagers. I swear my friend linked me to some girls profile that would have FBI hunting you down, if you understand what I am trying to say. We don't need that to our name goddamn it!
As a teenager, I can say that some do, some don't. I got both type of friends. I personally fall in the second category, with the only social media I frequent is Skype, if you can call it that kind of a social media.
Personally, I don't understand it myself why everyone one is so obsessed with the Social Media and how some people are so easily hurt and offended.
I guess they care to much for what others say and don't have a mindset to shake it off? This baffles me as much as it does you, but maybe that is because of my anti-social nature and not being in the loop of things, as well as having been exposed to Internets darker side for 6 years now and having been called by called and been calling my friends cheap prostitutes since the age of 6.
As a Latvian, I believe Ask.Fm should burn in hell for being yet another useless social media site for "yoloswagger" teenagers. I swear my friend linked me to some girls profile that would have FBI hunting you down, if you understand what I am trying to say. We don't need that to our name goddamn it!
As a teenager, I can say that some do, some don't. I got both type of friends. I personally fall in the second category, with the only social media I frequent is Skype, if you can call it that kind of a social media.
Personally, I don't understand it myself why everyone one is so obsessed with the Social Media and how some people are so easily hurt and offended.
I guess they care to much for what others say and don't have a mindset to shake it off? This baffles me as much as it does you, but maybe that is because of my anti-social nature and not being in the loop of things, as well as having been exposed to Internets darker side for 6 years now and having been called by called and been calling my friends cheap prostitutes since the age of 6.
Technically these forums are a social network and people still get hammered on here. I know we have admins but you could ask the same question about why people come onto The Escapist. For the group of friends you're in you will all communicate in the same place and anyone who doesn't will be left out, no one wants that so nobody stops.
In terms of Cyber Bullying, people should report it at the earliest opportunity.
In terms of Cyber Bullying, people should report it at the earliest opportunity.
Bullying is never justified. Not even when it comes in form of text one can easily look away from. It's never a question with an answer as simple as "Technolgy is evil" or "Teenager are dumb". It's always a complex issue, it's always about the lack of information and communication.
The thing for me is if it was a bully from the childs school that continues bullying after school online. Then yes something needs to be done whether by family and school.
But if a British child joins a social media site in Austria and gets insulted by a stranger from Brussels. Then they should just log out. Go some where else. I understand that you may not get away from bullies that live near you or go to your school. But online and bullying strangers, just log off. That seems common sense to me. Are people now days so dependent on tech for there social interaction with friends? That is what i find sad.
But if a British child joins a social media site in Austria and gets insulted by a stranger from Brussels. Then they should just log out. Go some where else. I understand that you may not get away from bullies that live near you or go to your school. But online and bullying strangers, just log off. That seems common sense to me. Are people now days so dependent on tech for there social interaction with friends? That is what i find sad.
about the 99% yes, but I am 15, and kinda smart, I've already got three GCSE's and I've not even started my final year at secondary. but as someone who has been bullied I can't justify suicide as an option, the people that kill them self are ether bullied on some kind of massive scale, eg. institutionally, or gay in a society that operates in a very homophobic manner. or just a coward. in my view.6urk17s said:
I would suggest two points, which I'm sure have already been covered.
1) The abuse that takes place in cases of 'cyber-bullying' is not restricted to the 'cyber' end. That's just the angle that the media takes because it motivates more clicks/ sells more at the news stand. It's far more newsworthy than normal bullying, because it gives people a cause to latch onto (rather than just 'what a surprise, kids are mean to each other') and many consumers are already afraid of the internet. Just take a look at any news story about 'hackers' - or the existence of anti-virus software.
2) As a suitably 'dense teenager' I reject the assertion that it is possible to function in full social capacity without the use of social networking - at least for my particular demographic. To do so would be akin to operating a business without a mobile phone. It is possible, and indeed some crazy people engage in such behaviour - but it is a sort of passive aggressive "screw you" to society. That is, to partake in a modern young-adult community to the full extent mandates the use of social networks. 'cyber-bullying' arguably accomplishes its goal by removing people from the network as much as it does continually insulting them. Either way they are ostracised.
1) The abuse that takes place in cases of 'cyber-bullying' is not restricted to the 'cyber' end. That's just the angle that the media takes because it motivates more clicks/ sells more at the news stand. It's far more newsworthy than normal bullying, because it gives people a cause to latch onto (rather than just 'what a surprise, kids are mean to each other') and many consumers are already afraid of the internet. Just take a look at any news story about 'hackers' - or the existence of anti-virus software.
2) As a suitably 'dense teenager' I reject the assertion that it is possible to function in full social capacity without the use of social networking - at least for my particular demographic. To do so would be akin to operating a business without a mobile phone. It is possible, and indeed some crazy people engage in such behaviour - but it is a sort of passive aggressive "screw you" to society. That is, to partake in a modern young-adult community to the full extent mandates the use of social networks. 'cyber-bullying' arguably accomplishes its goal by removing people from the network as much as it does continually insulting them. Either way they are ostracised.
19 here and not super dense. Most of the kids that get depressed etc. over these sorts of things have constantly been the target of bullies for years, online and off.
Yes, they should just delete the account and move on, but if they're in a state where they are considering, or carrying out, suicide, they're clearly not in the best frame of mind right now, are they?
Yes, they should just delete the account and move on, but if they're in a state where they are considering, or carrying out, suicide, they're clearly not in the best frame of mind right now, are they?
I don't know what a teenger is, but I agree, if you can believe the news, some people have no idea how either block functions or electrical devices work. But I think it's probably often not just the online stuff.
This is a huge, huge difference between old-school bullying and new-school bullying. It's just so much more pervasive and permanent now, and I think that's the major reason why some kids are being pushed over the edge. Back in the day, you'd maybe absorb some bullying at school and then go home to a loving, caring environment where you could recharge your batteries and steel yourself against tomorrow. Now, you and everyone you know is glued to their computer or phone 24/7, obsessively facebooking or using other social media to remain in a constant state of peer awareness. If you don't do the same, you're in danger of becoming a social pariah. This means no "breaks" from the abuse. Plus the internet is like crowd-sourced harassment; everything is funneled and whittled down to the most brutally effective and impacting insults. You can't even rely on your bullies being uncreative anymore.Stasisesque said:
Agree so hard. Parents, teachers, and adults in general need to recognize how very different bullying is today and take special steps to stamp it out. If I ever have a child, you'd better believe I'm talking to that kid about social media and encouraging him/her to always stay positive, never contribute to abuse, and to come to me with any concerns.
I'm also keeping all computers and cell phones in common areas of the house.
well a big part of it is that the people who are cyber bullying are bullying the same person at school or in their neighborhood, so even if they stay off the social networking sites, they will still be bullied, and the outcome would be the same. this is coming from a victim of such crime, there is always more to it than simple cyber bullying, hell if it was JUST on some sort of social network site it wouldn't have the same impact. how do i explain this... it's like you can't get away from the bully when you are away, they bully you at school, they go home, and bully you on the internet, it feels like you are trapped, kinda like they are stalking you simply to make you miserable. most likely the people who you see on the news were bullied outside of the internet, just the school and the parents of the bully doesn't want to take the heat for not disciplining their children, so they blame the internet and social media.flarty said:
Cyber-bullying doesn't just take the form of "kid has Facebook page, other kids hop on that page and message/bully them." It can also be the bullies making a page for him, like "Billy Jones is a giant ******," and then using it to communicate with other kids in the school. So no, it isn't something they can always prevent. Cyber-bullying is an extension of bullying, that gives the bullies even more power to communicate, which unfortunately is exactly what bullying is. Communication. A very horrible form of communication.flarty said:
I did say it's understandable if there's a significant enough distance between people. In the context of where I live, I live in a small town where everything is within walking distance, yet people still use it. I could walk down the street to the homes of quite a few of the people I know.TheKasp said:
I have yet to see a benefit of using social networking such as Facebook when the same could be accomplished with with an instant messenger. I'm not 100% familiar with the privacy functions of facebook, but I know with instant messengers you can't get anything from anyone until you've accepted their contact invite.
Based on my experience, facebook is nothing more than a large ad/marketing site under the guise of a social hub. And since this thread is about Cyberbullying, apparently facebook is a place for teens to act like cunts to each other to see who commits suicide first.
Do you have any idea how horrible it can be to be bullied? Properly, viciously bullied? Utterly powerless, shoved up against a wall as people hit you, punch you, threaten you. To be told that they will hurt you, to know day in, day out, that you cannot escape. Imagine that, just imagine being totally and utterly powerless.flarty said:
Then, in your vulnerable state, you go online. You to to try solice, you try to find a kind word and the verbal equivalent of a hug as you attempt to deal with things. And then it starts again, it doesn't stop. You cannot escape. The place you turned to didn't help. Your family isn't helping, because they do not see the issue. Your school is not helping, because they do not see the issue.
They pursue you to facebook, you delete your account. You get bullied for that. You try somewhere else online, they find you, they follow you.
Everywhere you turn the hate chases you along.
Its not about online bullying. Its about the eventual straw that breaks the camels back.
It is not about stupidity.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to take your own life? How many defenses your body puts up? How difficult it is to take a razor to your wrists, to kick a chair from beneath your feet? It is not something people take lightly. It is sad, every death is a tragedy, and insulting those who do die, those who take their lives, because you cannot understand them is utterly pathetic.