Are the forums too strict?
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I think the mods here walk a very fine line and do so admirably. I spend almost all my time in Off-Topic, debating threads as diverse as paedophilia to the typical romance/relationship stuff and the mods typically don't rise to the 'OMG THIS PERSON IS A TROLL BECAUSE HIS OPINION DIFFERS TO MINE' nonsense.
The people who get probated are typically people who flagrantly broke the rules or were personally insulting to other users. Mods here don't typically shut down lively debate, they only shut down blatant flaming with low discussion value.
Then my flamboyantly strange wrath will be triggered even earlier!Kortney said:
It's the most simple rule of thumb to go by on a forum such as this, something I learned from moderating another forum. I've hardly ever seen any gray area for that rule, so I think it's best to go by.Kakashi on crack said:
Mods definitely read the report to be sure it's legit. In fact they probably joke about it when it's obviously someone reporting something that breaks no rules but just makes them a bit butthurt. I should know, I have done this before.Mxrz said:
I tend to agree. Given the circumstances, I'd much rather have strict moderators and Captchas rather than to have this thread be full of trolls and assholes and have bots spamming us with ads for penis enlargement pills.The Spartan E1337 said:
Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that the comments posted from Facebook on things like videos and news articles tend to be a little bit less civil than those posted on the site's forums? Does The Escapist have the ability to moderate the Facebook comments?
The strict rules have actually been pretty effective at keeping the hardcore trolls out, especially for a gaming website. Then again, it's at the cost of lively discussion sometimes.
What I don't like is the warnings for short posts. When someone makes a topic asking a question that can be answered in one word, why shouldn't we be allowed to post just one word? I was tempted to make this post only "Yes" but knew I'd get another warning for it
What I don't like is the warnings for short posts. When someone makes a topic asking a question that can be answered in one word, why shouldn't we be allowed to post just one word? I was tempted to make this post only "Yes" but knew I'd get another warning for it
It's hard to find moderators for this reason.
The problem lies with mods let the "position" get to their head and try to discipline people for anything to assert a sense of authority that they feel lacking from their own lives.
The same goes for any "guard" position. eg. I was yelled at by Trump's doorman over nothing.
Mods are important though, otherwise forums just regress into trash, but I agree.. occasionally the posts they caution are seemingly fine.
The problem lies with mods let the "position" get to their head and try to discipline people for anything to assert a sense of authority that they feel lacking from their own lives.
The same goes for any "guard" position. eg. I was yelled at by Trump's doorman over nothing.
Mods are important though, otherwise forums just regress into trash, but I agree.. occasionally the posts they caution are seemingly fine.
PFFT, the blizzard forums are like the seedy back alleys of Victorian London compared to this place. I think I posted maybe a total of 20 times on their forums over the course of my 5 years in WoW, cause frankly it wasn't worth the trouble.Bags159 said:
I think rules #8 and 9 from the rules of the internet may shed some light on your intellectual quandary.Ando85 said:
Hope that clears things up for you. Welcome to The Escapist; stay out the basement.From Da Rulz of Teh Interwebz said:
One reason I go here and not to the 100,000 other gaming forums is because there is a refreshing lack of hooting dickholes. I like how often people get suspended and banned because it makes my experience great.Ando85 said:
Of course it doesn't. But inevitably someone will reply to you in such a way that you can't tell if they're trolling or not. If you can see that they have gone 5000 posts without getting pinged for bad behaviour, it is much easier to take them in good faith. If they are on probation for racist slurs, on the other hand, it is probably best to ignore them.Blitzwing said:
I've been put on probation a few times, and well... most of them I probably deserved. Anyway, this is one of the few forums I've seen that doesn't drop the hammer on swearing, which I like (then again, how Steam turns swear words into pink hearts is pretty creative). But no, not to strict at all.
As Super Skrull would say:Kortney said:
"There's too much trash in the universe!!"
This man speaks the truth. I say tighten the rules even further, so we may cull those who infect the Escapist with their immaturity and asshattery. The Escapist is one of the few websites on the internet where I have been able to simultaneously speak my mind and make new friends, all the while keeping my attitude in check so that I do not incur mod wrath. Not only does this shape me into a more polite person, but it also sets an example for others to follow.
So thank you, Escapist, for being so rock-solid with your guidelines. I follow them both on and off the forums.
/bow
I have found it all right. At least I can argue here my way and haven't been in trouble for it once yet.
This pretty much covers it. I think people do get banned for some ridiculous things, but that would be alright if one could tell from the written rules what those things are. As it is, things can be inconsistent at times. We're one of the biggest laughingstocks on the internet because of it. The one thing that really bothers me, though, is the piracy rule. On a gaming forum, it is really important to be able to candidly discuss piracy. Now, the way the rules are written, it is possible, if difficult -- one can't outright advocate piracy, but they can admit to it, and at least make arguments to the effect that it's not as bad as it is made out to be, or that, to re-purpose a drug related argument, the laws should be changed to make it legal. As it stands? People get banned for admitting to it all the time. About the only way someone can get away with admitting to piracy is if there's at least 10-20 other people admitting to the same thing. In that case, the thread just gets locked, in order to keep things tidy. Meanwhile, people who admit to smoking pot or to enjoying porn -- both things covered under the same rule -- always get off scot free.JDKJ said:
Use Our Forums Appropriately
Our forums are a place to talk with like-minded people, not a place to advertise your blog or YouTube channel. Your profile has a place for such things, and that is where it should stay. Similarly, posts including, advocating, or linking to illegal or adult material are a very quick way to end your time as part of The Escapist community.
Our forums are a place to talk with like-minded people, not a place to advertise your blog or YouTube channel. Your profile has a place for such things, and that is where it should stay. Similarly, posts including, advocating, or linking to illegal or adult material are a very quick way to end your time as part of The Escapist community.
Can anyone honestly tell me that it's being enforced as written?
Edit: Holy crap, 2020 posts. How on earth did I miss number 2000?
There was a user who got to over 800 posts recently, and every post was nothing but ban-worthy bullcrap.
If anything, they need to be stricter.
If anything, they need to be stricter.
If you are refering to whom I think you are, then I agree 100%.AbsoluteVirtue18 said:
I don't mind them. Unlike other forums I have visited, if you have an honest opinion, you aren?t penalized for it. And the ?This user was ____ for ____? is good, and allows you to look at what they had said. It also allows you to see the rules and how they apply.
I was once banned permanently from a site for saying fuck. That is strict. Here you are either put on probation or suspended if you're a complete asshole, I'd say that's fair. Having a bad day doesn't mean you need to spread the misery, so if you can't behave because the cool kids wont play with you, just deal with it alone rather than being a dick on the internet because you have the need to hide behind a mask when you're down.
