Are things really that bad?

[Vault101]

anyway I hope if the old republic bombs it wont sink my favorite developer, but I dont see that happening not so sure about star wars but people have faith in Bioware

I wouldn't worry about Bioware. If the worst case scenario does occur - and it is an absolute worst case scenario - it won't harm their rep for single player RPGs.

I probably worry about TOR failing more than I should, not because of the game itself - I'm relatively indifferent to it - but because of the potential effect it could have on the rest of the genre. It's such a big title that if it doesn't do well investors are going to become very wary of financing future AAA MMOs, though I think people are starting to put less faith in that particular golden goose anyway, now that it's blindingly apparent that noone's going to seriously challenge WoW.

Indeed WoW is actually one case where the dominance of a single title could harm the broader market. With so many titles going F2P the MMO side of gaming will probably see the biggest shake ups over the next few years. Huge start up investment + questionable returns is not a good combination.

well from what Ive seen there hasnt been a AAA MMO that has suceeded in dethroning WOW so I thourght that kind of was the case

How ever they have explicity stated that their goal IS NOT to dethrone WOW because that seems next to impossible

also while Im not that interested in the old republic Im interested to see what exatactally Its like, is it story based? im not into MMO's the only one a ever played was Runescape many years ago and that actually had some good stories

 

[Sixcess]

also while Im not that interested in the old republic Im interested to see what exatactally Its like, is it story based? im not into MMO's the only one a ever played was Runescape many years ago and that actually had some good stories

From what I've seen it's very story focused - basically KOTOR in MMO form, even down to having NPC followers that you can recruit along the way, which seems like an odd mechanic for an MMO, but I guess we'll see how it shapes up.

 

[LunaSocks]

Ya know, since its about 1 in the morning where I am poting this, I'm just going to quote Red vs. Blue.

Things can't get any better, things can't get any worse. So quit yer bitchin', nancy.
Thank you, Church.

 

[Tanis]

I don't see that happening this gen, but maybe next if current trends like multiple consoles, BS exclusives, emphasis on one genera, ect.


However, while I'm not a big fan of FPS the idea that 'the sky is falling' because of it is kind of BS.
Genera domination goes in waves...

 

[Vault101]

I don't know if there can be a crash quite as bad as the one in the 80's since gaming is such a huge form of entertainment, but I think gaming is in for a huge correction. This generation started with some very bad habits. They launched consoles and sold units at a loss, only making a profit off of the number of games sold due to the licensing fee. Developers in a race for the most photo-realistic graphics set a bad standard of developing games with budgets so high that risk had to be pinned down to the lowest common denominator. Those were the trends that started this generation off, so they have carried on into the present. While it does continue to get cheaper to produce games, the budgets are still too high for a highly competitive market to allow everyone to recoup their costs.

I'm not an expert and haven't worked for the industry like some of the people who have made these speculations, but I think that a few things are going to stick because of this. One of them being that this generation will be a LONG one. We'll eventually get to the point that the PC regains the considerable lead that it used to have over the consoles by such a degree that people complain. However Microsoft and Sony will probably kick stones around and shrug their shoulders while trying to put out a less risky add-on every few years. Another thing which I am a bit more hopeful for is that we'll see an equivalent to the low budget masterpieces of cinema. Games made for considerably less than AAA studios typically manage, but just as good or even better.

I kind of hope that Extra Credits makes an episode about this. It's something I've been wondering as well, and I'm hearing about it more often.

If you dont mind me asking where is your avatar from?

 

[Trolldor]

Batman Arkham Asylum disproves your theory, therefore shoosh.

 

[Wolfenbarg]

I don't know if there can be a crash quite as bad as the one in the 80's since gaming is such a huge form of entertainment, but I think gaming is in for a huge correction. This generation started with some very bad habits. They launched consoles and sold units at a loss, only making a profit off of the number of games sold due to the licensing fee. Developers in a race for the most photo-realistic graphics set a bad standard of developing games with budgets so high that risk had to be pinned down to the lowest common denominator. Those were the trends that started this generation off, so they have carried on into the present. While it does continue to get cheaper to produce games, the budgets are still too high for a highly competitive market to allow everyone to recoup their costs.

I'm not an expert and haven't worked for the industry like some of the people who have made these speculations, but I think that a few things are going to stick because of this. One of them being that this generation will be a LONG one. We'll eventually get to the point that the PC regains the considerable lead that it used to have over the consoles by such a degree that people complain. However Microsoft and Sony will probably kick stones around and shrug their shoulders while trying to put out a less risky add-on every few years. Another thing which I am a bit more hopeful for is that we'll see an equivalent to the low budget masterpieces of cinema. Games made for considerably less than AAA studios typically manage, but just as good or even better.

I kind of hope that Extra Credits makes an episode about this. It's something I've been wondering as well, and I'm hearing about it more often.

If you dont mind me asking where is your avatar from?

That is the female version of Hawke from Dragon Age 2. She hasn't appeared in any promotional pictures thus far, but one or two pictures of her exist.

 

[BlackSaint09]

At the risk of sounding like an idiot...
Considering all the money everyone is potentially making with all the generic-BS.
And the few non-generic-BS. Maybe soon theyll have enough money piled up to make something awesome... I know right... didnt think that through properly enough.

 

[Vault101]

I don't know if there can be a crash quite as bad as the one in the 80's since gaming is such a huge form of entertainment, but I think gaming is in for a huge correction. This generation started with some very bad habits. They launched consoles and sold units at a loss, only making a profit off of the number of games sold due to the licensing fee. Developers in a race for the most photo-realistic graphics set a bad standard of developing games with budgets so high that risk had to be pinned down to the lowest common denominator. Those were the trends that started this generation off, so they have carried on into the present. While it does continue to get cheaper to produce games, the budgets are still too high for a highly competitive market to allow everyone to recoup their costs.

I'm not an expert and haven't worked for the industry like some of the people who have made these speculations, but I think that a few things are going to stick because of this. One of them being that this generation will be a LONG one. We'll eventually get to the point that the PC regains the considerable lead that it used to have over the consoles by such a degree that people complain. However Microsoft and Sony will probably kick stones around and shrug their shoulders while trying to put out a less risky add-on every few years. Another thing which I am a bit more hopeful for is that we'll see an equivalent to the low budget masterpieces of cinema. Games made for considerably less than AAA studios typically manage, but just as good or even better.

I kind of hope that Extra Credits makes an episode about this. It's something I've been wondering as well, and I'm hearing about it more often.

If you dont mind me asking where is your avatar from?

That is the female version of Hawke from Dragon Age 2. She hasn't appeared in any promotional pictures thus far, but one or two pictures of her exist.

ah ha! yes thats exactally what I thourght, I was jsut double checking, where did you find that Image? anyway Im surprised theres any promotional images of her at all, unlike female shepard who practacally dosnt exist as far as promotion goes

anyway Hawke looks like a badass male or female

 

[Wolfenbarg]

I don't know if there can be a crash quite as bad as the one in the 80's since gaming is such a huge form of entertainment, but I think gaming is in for a huge correction. This generation started with some very bad habits. They launched consoles and sold units at a loss, only making a profit off of the number of games sold due to the licensing fee. Developers in a race for the most photo-realistic graphics set a bad standard of developing games with budgets so high that risk had to be pinned down to the lowest common denominator. Those were the trends that started this generation off, so they have carried on into the present. While it does continue to get cheaper to produce games, the budgets are still too high for a highly competitive market to allow everyone to recoup their costs.

I'm not an expert and haven't worked for the industry like some of the people who have made these speculations, but I think that a few things are going to stick because of this. One of them being that this generation will be a LONG one. We'll eventually get to the point that the PC regains the considerable lead that it used to have over the consoles by such a degree that people complain. However Microsoft and Sony will probably kick stones around and shrug their shoulders while trying to put out a less risky add-on every few years. Another thing which I am a bit more hopeful for is that we'll see an equivalent to the low budget masterpieces of cinema. Games made for considerably less than AAA studios typically manage, but just as good or even better.

I kind of hope that Extra Credits makes an episode about this. It's something I've been wondering as well, and I'm hearing about it more often.

If you dont mind me asking where is your avatar from?

That is the female version of Hawke from Dragon Age 2. She hasn't appeared in any promotional pictures thus far, but one or two pictures of her exist.

ah ha! yes thats exactally what I thourght, I was jsut double checking, where did you find that Image? anyway Im surprised theres any promotional images of her at all, unlike female shepard who practacally dosnt exist as far as promotion goes

anyway Hawke looks like a badass male or female

Just google Dragon Age 2 female Hawke and images pop up without much of a search. I'm assuming they built a custom face for her alongside male Hawke since many recognize that the lack of a scan for female Shepard was a mistake in the long run.

 

[Vault101]

I don't know if there can be a crash quite as bad as the one in the 80's since gaming is such a huge form of entertainment, but I think gaming is in for a huge correction. This generation started with some very bad habits. They launched consoles and sold units at a loss, only making a profit off of the number of games sold due to the licensing fee. Developers in a race for the most photo-realistic graphics set a bad standard of developing games with budgets so high that risk had to be pinned down to the lowest common denominator. Those were the trends that started this generation off, so they have carried on into the present. While it does continue to get cheaper to produce games, the budgets are still too high for a highly competitive market to allow everyone to recoup their costs.

I'm not an expert and haven't worked for the industry like some of the people who have made these speculations, but I think that a few things are going to stick because of this. One of them being that this generation will be a LONG one. We'll eventually get to the point that the PC regains the considerable lead that it used to have over the consoles by such a degree that people complain. However Microsoft and Sony will probably kick stones around and shrug their shoulders while trying to put out a less risky add-on every few years. Another thing which I am a bit more hopeful for is that we'll see an equivalent to the low budget masterpieces of cinema. Games made for considerably less than AAA studios typically manage, but just as good or even better.

I kind of hope that Extra Credits makes an episode about this. It's something I've been wondering as well, and I'm hearing about it more often.

If you dont mind me asking where is your avatar from?

That is the female version of Hawke from Dragon Age 2. She hasn't appeared in any promotional pictures thus far, but one or two pictures of her exist.

ah ha! yes thats exactally what I thourght, I was jsut double checking, where did you find that Image? anyway Im surprised theres any promotional images of her at all, unlike female shepard who practacally dosnt exist as far as promotion goes

anyway Hawke looks like a badass male or female

Just google Dragon Age 2 female Hawke and images pop up without much of a search. I'm assuming they built a custom face for her alongside male Hawke since many recognize that the lack of a scan for female Shepard was a mistake in the long run.

that said however default female shepard dosnt look that bad