are vampires really evil?

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it seems that these days all vampires are considered blood sucking psychopaths. who only exist to be the bad guy in games and movies. even when you play as a vampire it normally consists of murdering several hundred people and draining the blood from maybe 1 or 2. but even though vampires drink blood so? ive seen people eat raw beef, and the main argument is vampires drink the blood of humans, but to vampires humans are an inferior species like say cows to humans (don't quote me on that i don't want a animal ethics rant). so does that make them evil?
 
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Are orcs really evil? How about goblins? Or trolls?

Vampires, just like the above are fantasy. Therefore they are always evil; except when they're not.

I guess if you really looked into the concept of being a vampire isn't necessarily evil, but it came from a time when all them medieval folks were scared of the dead rising up and stealing their blood.

Then again they don't exist, so it is of no importance to me.

Awaaaay! *fly's off into sunset*
 

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Is it evil to suck someones blood for nurishment or just hunger? In the same vein (no pun intended) you could argue that people are evil for drinking milk and eating beef.
 

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Nah, only the really arrogant bastard/***** and shiny fag vampires are evil. Most couldn't care less about humanity, and only try to survive day to day, getting blood, and avoiding the hyper-religious fuck-nuts who hate Gay marriage and decry all things that do not state that God loves WHITE MALES and no one else.
 

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Depends on which mythology you most identify with. I prefer World of Darkness vampires, so... yeah. No matter how hard they work to constrain the Beast within them, eventually it breaks free.
 

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ctrl said:
it seems that these days all vampires are considered blood sucking psychopaths.
It seems the complete opposite. It seems like vampires have generally kept the same 'mysterious romantic' aura around them as they always have. There are exceptions, but when you think of vampires, you probably think of a sexual yet dangerous maverick like Dracula or Lestat or one of the thousands of others like them.
 

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6unn3r said:
Is it evil to suck someones blood for nourishment or just hunger? In the same vein (no pun intended) you could argue that people are evil for drinking milk and eating beef.
Of course, some people DO, but hey ... fuck them.
 

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Well, for one thing vampires aren't real and also vampires may be physically superior to humans but they are both equally intelligent beings. A cow however is not.
 

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6unn3r said:
Is it evil to suck someones blood for nurishment or just hunger? In the same vein (no pun intended) you could argue that people are evil for drinking milk and eating beef.
Cows aren't people. Vampires are little more than parasites. A human can live without a cow, a vampire can't live without a host.
 

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Being a vampire in and of itself in most settings does not change a persons beliefs and such. However, choosing to gain personal power (immortality) at the cost of killing other living SENTIENT (people != cows by most of worlds morality standards) beings would most likely qualify you as evil.

What if you are everyday Joe, and get turned to a vampire against your will? If you could exist by buying blood from the red cross and not kill anyone. You wouldn't automatically be evil.
 

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I think Vampires are only as evil as I am in killing all those people so that their souls will be my slaves in the afterlife. Yeah, some people whine and complain about it but fuck getting my own Coke when I can have someone else do it.
 

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manythings said:
6unn3r said:
Cows aren't people. Vampires are little more than parasites. A human can live without a cow, a vampire can't live without a host.
They can live off animal blood depending on which vampire lore you use as referance. (Not Twiglight cuz its gay to sparkle in the sunlight and not burn to death (you cant go changing the rules miss Meyer!!!!) unlike all the other lores!) True Blood, Blade, Interview with a vampire, Underworld, etc etc so i suppose that makes them vegitarians?
 

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Vampires used to be humans. They need human blood to live (assuming they don't drink animal blood, in which case they are evil for drinking human blood). They have no choice. They don't want to die. Plus they have to follow many many rules. Being a vampire would suck. They are just down on their luck.

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It really depends on your lore. I mean Twilight, hell, theres a special place in hell reserved for anyone who enjoys even looking at them. And theres your Nosferatu style ones who are evil, but also represent an odd tale of eternal love. Then theres the Being Human types (a reference I imagine almost no one outside the UK will get) were almost all of them are, but a few try to abstain from drinking blood.
 

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Depends on the Mythos (and in some the individual Valmpire, but I don't feel so. They can't help needing to drink blood, my definition of Evil would have to enclude drawing enjoyment from the suffering.

But then I guess it also depends on your definition of Evil; if yours simply covered hurting humans, regardless of needs or reasons then every Vampire is evil, but then so are Mosquitoes. And what of people who would willingly let Vampires drink from them? Would a Vampire feeding off these people be considered Evil, even under that definition?

Personally, I like my Vampire stories about the sexual predator, where the Vampires are almost perfect killing machines; sexual attraction being able to draw humans out from the heard and superhuman physical abilities allowing them to subdue, feed and likely eventually kill them. I like the stories where, although humans feel unbearable lust looking at Vampires, they feel nothing for us, seeing us as weak, almost undeserving of life, only tolerated as food. That to me is a "proper" Vampire, different to some of the origional stories but one that I feel fits into both a modern world and a horror story. And these Vampires, they're no more evil than the farmer snapping the necks of chickens.
 

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dathwampeer said:
Humans can't live without food.

Vampires aren't any more of a parasite than we are. We sap plants, animals, fungi whatever. They don't technically have a host. They drain us dry and move on. Not so different from any animal or plant we eat.

The intelligence of the animal they feed on isn't really part of the issue.
Funny I could've sworn I used the word Cow not Food. Extract living animals from the equation and the vampire dies/becomes torpid or whatever depending on the source material. Extra living animals from the equation for a human and we can still eat vegetables. I don't need to ever kill another living creature to live, vampires must feed off a host creature that will eventually die due to, surprise, hypohaemia or cardiac stress.

EDIT: And if you seriously believe there is no difference between killing and consuming a sentient creature and domestic livestock you should really seek help.

6unn3r said:
They can live off animal blood depending on which vampire lore you use as referance. (Not Twiglight cuz its gay to sparkle in the sunlight and not burn to death (you cant go changing the rules miss Meyer!!!!) unlike all the other lores!) True Blood, Blade, Interview with a vampire, Underworld, etc etc so i suppose that makes them vegitarians?
I used the term parasite, as in a creature that lives off of a host to the hosts detriment.

EDIT: I think sunlight killing vampires is a fairly new addition to the story, before that i think it only weakened them due to extreme light sensitivity (in the same way a flashbang would do to a regular person).
 

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Well if vampires were real (Or at least exsist in a modern day equivalent) they wouldn't have to directly feed from humans anymore.
1:They could Hypnotize/Glare/Charm/etc. people to let them bite them and not tell anyone or to break into a blood bank for them.
2:They could offer some from of trade(payment) for letting people bite them or getting blood form a blood bank.
3: Willing host offer to give blood without direct cost.

I'd say anyother means of getting Human blood repeatedly is Evil(Humans after all are the deciders of Good and Evil after all Animals don't really have much of a grasp on the concept.)