are vampires really evil?

[DarthFennec]

Modern vampires? Yes they are truly evil. The way they teach young girls to become codependent needy useless wives of wife-beaters is absolutely horrible.
Hey wait ... do those even count as vampires? The definition's been skewing so much lately that it's difficult to tell anymore ...

 

[Nocturnal Gentleman]

Well, when I think vampires I think the old time ghoulish versions and the real life animal ones. Either way I wouldn't say they're evil. More than anything their particular tastes and instincts make them a serious pest or threat.

All the modern sexy versions? Evil. They actually go out of their way to play with people's minds and then savagely kill them. There are a few that are more grey area since they sympathize with their prey but not many.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Well the whole drink blood/eat beef comparison doesn't really hold up that well. While yes humans kill and eat cows for their flesh, the vampire feeds upon his victim while they're still alive. This makes them less predator more parasite, which can make them a hell of a lot more creepy to some people.

Although as with any fantasitical being, it all depends upon what source you're looking at for whether they're good, evil, or somewhere in between. I like the whole idea of vamps struggling with the thirst; some of them giving in entirely, others controling themselves; but in the end unable to deny the fact that they feed on live, intelligent beings.

 

[Nouw]

Are we evil for hunting for food? No we aren't.

There you go!

 

[KalosCast]

Are we evil for hunting for food? No we aren't.

There you go!

But we don't hunt me. Being a human, I care if you eat humans. Being a human, I don't care if you eat deer.

 

[Nieroshai]

Depends on the vampire. One mythology believes them to be literally blood-drinking demons, another believes them to be semi-intelligent zombies, yet another is the Dracula/Alucard who thinks of humans the same way we think of cattle, then there's the kind that is human but driven mad by thirst for blood. Take your pick, there is no "wrong" vampire, not even the Twilight vampire. They just need to require human flesh/blood to survive, and it helps to be dead.

EDIT: forgot to finish. Some kinds can be evil, others are merely trying to survive. Dracula was evil, Vampire Hunter D and Blade(yes they're dhampirs, but they both need blood) are not.

 

[Nouw]

Are we evil for hunting for food? No we aren't.

There you go!

But we don't hunt me. Being a human, I care if you eat humans. Being a human, I don't care if you eat deer.

But Vampires need that food. They have to eat it. Unlike Edward...

 

[KalosCast]

But Vampires need that food. They have to eat it. Unlike Edward...

Yes, but not being a vampire, I don't really care about their needs, especially since their needs are likely to get me mind-raped, murdered, or afflicted with their undead curse.

Perhaps we can come to an agreement. Capri Sun will launch "human blood" in their product line (from willing donors) and they will stop trying to bite me.

 

[Geekosaurus]

You can't even use the term 'vampire' now without specifying which kind.

 

[Norix596]

Are you kidding me? They're pure malevolence, look at how they sparkle!

 

[sycoesis]

honestly i dont care if it tried to kill me id do what i could to kill it if it wanted me to play poker for kittens id probably play (yes i know there not real)

 

[manaman]

Is it evil to suck someones blood for nurishment or just hunger? In the same vein (no pun intended) you could argue that people are evil for drinking milk and eating beef.

No it's not. Sorry if you buy into the whole PETA "animals R peoples too" bullshit, but they are not. You have to draw a line somewhere, after all in their own way plants react to stimulus, even if they lack a nervous system. Jellyfish eat other animals, but themselves lack any kind of central nervous system. It just goes in gradual steps up from there. Until you come to the few animals that can identify that their image in a mirror is their image.

There is no way even that lowest sign of higher intelligence applies to cows. They might as well be walking, mooing, and craping bags of tasty meat.

it seems that these days all vampires are considered blood sucking psychopaths.?

One of the most popular movies of this time beg to differ.
Then again, that movie WAS complete bullocks.

Not really.

The main character in that movie did suck blood being a vampire after all. So check that box right off.

He was also a 100 year old guy stalking a 16 year old girl because she smells nice, and even through that is the least of the crazy I think we can tick of the psycho box as well.

 

[Slaanax]

I believe it is explained in Dracula. The Vampires are only evil in our eyes because they want to eat us.

 

[Nouw]

Are we evil for hunting for food? No we aren't.

There you go!

But we don't hunt me. Being a human, I care if you eat humans. Being a human, I don't care if you eat deer.

But Vampires need that food. They have to eat it. Unlike Edward...

I'm gonna go with the needs of the many here. You decide to kill a bunch of people to save your own as, that's selfish and evil.

But don't they have a right to live? Also, evil is one of the most subjective words in English.

 

[Nouw]

Are we evil for hunting for food? No we aren't.

There you go!

But we don't hunt me. Being a human, I care if you eat humans. Being a human, I don't care if you eat deer.

But Vampires need that food. They have to eat it. Unlike Edward...

I'm gonna go with the needs of the many here. You decide to kill a bunch of people to save your own as, that's selfish and evil.

But don't they have a right to live? Also, evil is one of the most subjective words in English.

Not if it means murdering people to do it, no.

Well personally I go by the philosophy of there is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so, so you'll get no argument here on the subjectivity of evil. But I'm gonna go with murder at least being a good candidate for evil.

And I agree, but this murder they have to do. Their 'murder' is their way of life.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I wouldn't say they're evil mainly because of how slick that slope is. Vampires killing humans may seem evil to someone who will then turn around and say humans eating beef, lamb, chicken, etc...is just as evil, if not worse.

Vampires aren't real though. There are some people who claim to be, but when they engage in a blood letting (I think that's what they call it) they don't kill for their blood. When you play Soul Reaver...well, when you used to play Soul Reaver, most of the blood you got came from humans trying to kill you.

...

I miss the Soul Reaver games...When are we getting another of those? Or an HD Re-release?

 

[Twilight_guy]

You mean the unholy abominations that literally get their power from faining God and turning to Evil practices to make themselves demonic unholy undying forces cast out by even the light of day and forced to drink the mortal fluid of humans to sustain their wrenched existence? If you think Satan is evil, then yes vampires are evil since there derive power from similar unholy sources.

 

[Olrod]

People can be evil.

People can be vampires.

Vampires can be evil.

 

[Dwarfman]

it seems that these days all vampires are considered blood sucking psychopaths. who only exist to be the bad guy in games and movies. even when you play as a vampire it normally consists of murdering several hundred people and draining the blood from maybe 1 or 2. but even though vampires drink blood so? ive seen people eat raw beef, and the main argument is vampires drink the blood of humans, but to vampires humans are an inferior species like say cows to humans (don't quote me on that i don't want a animal ethics rant). so does that make them evil?

The original mythos surrounding vampires. I'm not talking about Anne Rice, or Twilight or Age of Darkness but the original myths. Implies that vampirism is synonimous with evil acts and diabolism and the undead (nothing that could be considered good).

The myth of Vampirism is one that spans the entire world. Every single culture has their own very different example of an evil spirit, demon or witch that as part of their existence feasts upon the blood of the living. Please remember blood has an importance place in ancient cultures. There was a magic to it. A creature that would come in the night and drink the essence and life of the body would have been a sickening and nightmarish thought to comprehend.

The main argument of vampirism isn't that a are a step down from someone eating a beef carpaccio. The main argument is they are an abomination of the human form.

 

[Nouw]

And I agree, but this murder they have to do. Their 'murder' is their way of life.

Maybe killing someone for a noble cause can be justified but killing a bunch of people because you don't want to die can't (unless those people are a direct threat to you obviously).

I wouldn't say they're evil mainly because of how slick that slope is. Vampires killing humans may seem evil to someone who will then turn around and say humans eating beef, lamb, chicken, etc...is just as evil, if not worse.

As I've said it's different. With animals we have the belief that they don't fear death the same way we do. They're not as smart as we are, they don't reason regardless of what PETA may tell you. Vampires used to be human. They know exactly what human fear is like but they willingly inflict it. They murder people they know for a fact don't want to die. (not that animals want to die, just that they don't process it like we do. We may be wrong about animals, but we at least have ignorance as an excuse, vampires would know exactly what they are doing.)

So should the vampires die out? Because it is the morally right thing?