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Bobic

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Who feels like being useful?

i've managed to give my computer a snazzy new virus. It seems to have a filename of ave.exe but a search for this yielded no results. I have Mcafee antivirus software and i performed a full system scan but this doesn't seem to have worked. I googled ave.exe but i daren't click any of the links in case they make things worse. Anyone got any ideas/dealt with this before?
 

Pimppeter2

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Yes, and its a giant pain in the ass.

Start - run - system revert - (A time before you caught the virus)
 

Bobic

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tring it now,
thanks!

(this may be a silly question but what's the format for writing that in thr run thing, at the moment i'm just opening the system folder)
 

quiet_samurai

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If you have AVG it may be able to find it and get rid of it. Or perhaps Lavasoft as well. Or a hammer...
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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Bobic said:
tring it now,
thanks!

(this may be a silly question but what's the format for writing that in thr run thing, at the moment i'm just opening the system folder)
I think its c:/windows\system 32\rstrui.exe
Just checked, and this is it on my pc
 

Bobic

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EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Bobic said:
tring it now,
thanks!

(this may be a silly question but what's the format for writing that in thr run thing, at the moment i'm just opening the system folder)
I think its c:/windows\system 32\rstrui.exe
Just checked, and this is it on my pc
hmmm that just opened my system folder again

I also tried using the accessories - tools - system restore thing but it said i needed to contact my admin to do this (it's a personal computer so i'm my own admin, i contacted me but i wasn't very helpful), maybe that angles blocked off

UPDATE - manually searched through system 32 file but couldn't find a file of that name, our comps are annoyingly different or that file's gone bye bye
 

Bobic

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Managed to get system revert but it says i don't have the right permissions, any other ideas?
 

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Bobic said:
Managed to get system revert but it says i don't have the right permissions, any other ideas?
Sorry, couldn't resist. Make sure you're a system administrator. Should tell you in Control Panel > User Accounts. (I think it's User Accounts... it is if you have Vista. Sorry, haven't used Windows much in the last few months.) If you're not an admin, find the person who is and have them either give you their password or do it themselves. Good luck.
 

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Skooterz said:
Bobic said:
Managed to get system revert but it says i don't have the right permissions, any other ideas?
Sorry, couldn't resist. Make sure you're a system administrator. Should tell you in Control Panel > User Accounts. (I think it's User Accounts... it is if you have Vista. Sorry, haven't used Windows much in the last few months.) If you're not an admin, find the person who is and have them either give you their password or do it themselves. Good luck.
I'm still set as the admin, i'm guessing the virus has some kind of magical powers that stop me from being able to use admin doodads.
 

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Use the search function.
Delete the virus program.(All of it.)

And don't download anything that your not sure of.
 

Bobic

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Kortney said:
How did you get it?
Recently got my computer fixed (heh irony) and needed to update drivers, i stuck to official sites but the intel one was really awkward to use. I looked at one other site then wham! virus central. I didn't download anything from this site and haven't updated any drivers yet. Admittedly i shoulda seen it coming but, cmon, everyone messes up occasionally.

breadlord said:
Use the search function.
Delete the virus program.(All of it.)

And don't download anything that your not sure of.
I tried a search, it didn't find anything.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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Bobic said:
Who feels like being useful?

i've managed to give my computer a snazzy new virus. It seems to have a filename of ave.exe but a search for this yielded no results. I have Mcafee antivirus software and i performed a full system scan but this doesn't seem to have worked. I googled ave.exe but i daren't click any of the links in case they make things worse. Anyone got any ideas/dealt with this before?
First things first - Mcafee is a joke at stopping spyware. Viruses? Sure, but what we generally refer to as viruses these days aren't, they're malicious software and trojans, and anti-virus software like Mcafee sucks at preventing it and generally won't even see it while it's already there (if you're looking for effective anti-malware tools, try Spybot, Malwarebytes, or HijackThis). Fortunately for you, removing this crap is part of what I do for a living.

To get rid of this particular strain, I'd recommend following the directions on this page [http://www.malwarehelp.org/ave-exe-a-multiple-rogues-in-one-trojan-fakerean-2010.html]. If you'd like the technical explanation for why this is a tricky little blighter and/or want the satisfaction of yanking it out yourself, read on.
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[HEADING=3]Why malware is a pain in the ass, but usually not that hard to stop.[/HEADING]​

Most malware is designed to be very annoying, and a lot of it includes countermeasures to prevent you from easily getting rid of it. Unless, that is, you can turn it off before it ever loads. See, to do anything, the nasty has to get Windows to load it somehow in the first place. With a free tool like say... Autoruns from Microsoft's Sysinternals [http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx], you can easily focus on all the 3rd party software that gets called during startup, find the odd-program out, and turn it off. Some malware registers DLLs and is designed to replace those registry keys if it detects you shutting it down or tampering with them, and some will link itself to processes that absolutely need to run, so you have to go through additional hoops to disentangle it, but for the most part if it's not loading when you turn the machine on, it's sitting there inert.

I've been able to fix 90% of malware infections I come across using nothing more than the Autoruns.exe, my common sense, and the internet (to confirm my suspicions about files I didn't recognize). This one though, is tricky - it doesn't load at startup at all. And yet, it does!

[HEADING=3]Wait, what?[/HEADING]​

How's it manage that? Quite simply - it inserts itself into the code for executing .EXE files, so if you close it and launch anything else (because any application you run will be an .EXE file), it will come right back. It also adds itself into the launch keys for web browsers, even though as executable files it would already be launching thanks to the .EXE keys, and turns off various functions that help prevent things like this from continuing.

The limitations, at least so far as I've seen, are that it's infecting the User level registry keys, not the system - if you have two user accounts on a machine, unless they've both gotten themselves compromised only one will be showing symptoms. What this means is you can effectively 'cure' the malware by just deleting your profile and recreating it. Should you want to avoid tossing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater, and feel you have the requisite technical aptitude, try the following:
  • 1. Open up Task Manager (generally done via right-clicking the start menu bar and selecting Task Manager).

    2. Select the Processes tab, then click to sort processes by user name (if the box to show processes from all users is not checked, check it and then do the sort). The process you're looking for will be a program started by your user account's name, not SYSTEM, and it will probably be a random file name you don't recognize. Write it down.

    3. Open up the windows registry editor (via Start - Run - Regedit).

    4. Close the program that looks out of place - did all your pop-ups go away and the fake toolbar notification close? That's the filename you need to search for in the registry. Wasn't the right one? Close any other suspicious filename that your user account launched.

    5. Inside the Registry Editor, click Edit and then Find, then type the filename you found the malware using. You launched the Registry Editor first because anything already open cannot re-trigger the malware to launch again, it only gets opened when you launch an .EXE file.

    6. For each search result you find do not delete the key! Doing so will render your profile incapable of launching executable files anymore - you have to open the key and edit out the part about launching the filename you've discovered to be bad. It will look something like this "C:\Documents and Settings\malwarehelp.org\Local Settings\Application Data\ave.exe? /START" (take a note of the full pathway to the nasty file, as that's where you'll need to navigate to to delete it later). The keys for launching .EXEs will have a Default key and the one this application injects itself into - both should have the same values, so use that as a reference to what part isn't junk. The keys for your web-browsers will have the malicious file and then the pathway and associated commands for the actual web-browser's .EXE, so it's a lot easier to tell which part needs to be removed. Once you've cleaned a value, hit F3 to proceed to the next instance of that filename the registry editor finds, and clean those.

    Rinse and repeat until it tells you no more results were found.

    7. Delete the malicious file and any hidden files in the same folder that share it's creation date. Then get yourself some anti-spyware protection via Spybot/Malwarebytes and do some full scans, run the immunizations, etc. Just because you know this one is there doesn't mean you only have that one. There are malware apps floating around right now that are almost undetectable (or would be, if they didn't redirect search results to ad sites if you click on them from a search engine's results page).

Once you're free of the malware, get yourself a copy of a secure web browser [http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/] and put ad-blocking software [http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/] on it, and then make sure you aren't running other vulnerable software [http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/]. Malware isn't something that 'just happens' - it relies on complacency. In the old days you were almost certainly at fault if you picked up an infection because it meant you were trolling about the places you shouldn't be, but these days you can get malware installed just by visiting MSN.com with an unsecured Java install, without needing to be tricked into infecting yourself either (usually malware relies on social engineering - tricking clueless users into clicking OK on a box they shouldn't, generally by warning them they already have spyware and they should click that box to fix it, thereby actually infecting themselves with spyware. The really nasty stuff doesn't even need your participation, you just have to go to a site with an infected ad while running software with open vulnerabilities).

So don't be a victim, stay pro-active, and you'll be the one wondering how people keep getting all these malware infections all the time when you never even see any attempts to infect your computer.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
More like MOST of what you do for a living, right?

Another suggestion for security software: I was a fan of Avast! Antivirus when I used Windows regularly. (Though I also had Spybot).
 

Bobic

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
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Thanks man, I've made a new account and things appear to be in working order. I know it's hard to come accross all that sincere in text but seriously, thanks.
 

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Mcafee is a virus itself. I tried getting it off my computer but it won't leave. I deleted every part of it I could find and it still pops up asking if I want to renew my AV software.

I'm not good with viruses though. All I can say is that Linux wouldn't have that problem.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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Skooterz said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
More like MOST of what you do for a living, right?
Nah, I'm part of what our university terms EUSS - End User Support Services. Boils down to being desktop support for various staff departments, so I handle any and all issues that revolve around the technology they actually use to do their jobs - yanking off spyware/malware is just an annoying part of the job. I do however find intellectual enjoyment out of outsmarting the authors of said malicious code by purging it without resorting to the "nuclear option" (re-imaging the damn machine, which will fix any problem of this sort, heh).

It's very depressing when the same user turns around and gets infected by something worse less than a day later though, let me tell you. I would be so very happy if we could just Deep Freeze all their machines so they can't actually screw them up.


Bobic said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
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Thanks man, I've made a new account and things appear to be in working order. I know it's hard to come accross all that sincere in text but seriously, thanks.
You're quite welcome.