Stand Your Ground laws are meant to make it easier to get away with using deadly force. In other states, if you shoot someone because they rushed you because you were open carrying, it's harder to find a sympathetic judge and the prosecution will absolutely go after that.
You said that, if someone is armed with a rifle, they can't possibly be defending a business. I proved you wrong. A judge would find you in contempt of court for continuing to use loaded language in order to try to mislead the jury.
Those same pictures from before also prove you wrong.
How are you able to determine the attacker's intent from a video?
So someone had already assaulted the guy he shot first when they pushed him as seen in your video? The armed guy in the yellow shirt and the guy with the black backpack shoved the guy he shot first back. The militia were actively putting themselves in the middle of the protesters and instigating it from the looks of that. The people were already by the gas station while that fire bin was going on, look in the background. The militia were the ones bringing lethal weapons into a a heated protest about an unarmed man being shot in the back. THAT is a provocation in itself. The cops should have kept them away from the protest like they usually separate protesters and counter protesters in most cities. The police should have removed the militia and only allowed them to stay in a separate area. THIS is called doing your job:
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Dude come on. The exceptions are training with the firearm under supervision. There's also hunting in the state, you can hunt from age 12-18 under supervision.
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They were also there to burn cars.
You didn't though. It's also not what I said, I said somebody who was armed to go into a violent protest isn't there to defend anything.
They don't though.
They were unarmed and not in range to go for Kyle's gun.
SUPERVISION= legal parent or guardian. Not a friend. He is unsupervised under the law. The friend giving him the gun ILLEGALLY GAVE HIM THE GUN and is not authorized to supervise him under the law. You can't legally give a kid who is not your own a gun. You cannot even give your own brother a gun if he is underage.Dude come on. The exceptions are training with the firearm under supervision. There's also hunting in the state, you can hunt from age 12-18 under supervision.
.Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin under new law
Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin, after Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that eliminates the state’s minimum age.
This isn't even relevant to this case, I said it to show you can walk around with a weapon in Wisconsin, it's not illegal, unless you're doing those things. The law about rifles and shotguns is kinda lax as well.
Stop waving your google results around, I can also google stuff. Or did you just read an article by some journalist? It's the first thing that comes up when I google Wisconsin gun laws. If search results were stocks I'd have invested in that word combination and got rich.
Yes, he wasn't being supervised, at target practice, or hunting. And there are, in fact, laws against minors carrying weapons in public. They're not so lax that he wasn't committing a crime by carrying a rifle around.Dude come on. The exceptions are training with the firearm under supervision. There's also hunting in the state, you can hunt from age 12-18 under supervision.
This isn't even relevant to this case, I said it to show you can walk around with a weapon in Wisconsin, it's not illegal, unless you're doing those things. The law about rifles and shotguns is kinda lax as well.Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin under new law
Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin, after Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that eliminates the state’s minimum age.
Stop waving your google results around, I can also google stuff. Or did you just read an article by some journalist? It's the first thing that comes up when I google Wisconsin gun laws. If search results were stocks I'd have invested in that word combination and got rich.
They were also there to burn cars.
separate what I said and what you think I said. I wasn't talking about the shooter.
What you have said is that he was given a gun by his friend and that the friend was supervising him.
It's your opinion vs factual precedent, such as pictured above.
Being unarmed has no bearing on whether or not their intent was to take Rittenhouse's gun. In fact it's much easier to do when you have two free hands.
I was not aware that vigilantism counted as supervised training or hunting. Though I'm sure the little ************'s blood-sucking lawyers will try to make that argument anyway. Gun fanatic lawyers are already trying to lay the groundwork for that. I mean, Wisconsin law does say that you can't use deadly force to defend property, but that won't stop these over-privileged ass blisters from trying to work that angle anyway.
Show me the number of people who were present vs the number of people who actually burned cars. Oh yea, the few people who burnt cars somehow invalidate the reason why the majority of the people where there.Dude come on. The exceptions are training with the firearm under supervision. There's also hunting in the state, you can hunt from age 12-18 under supervision.
This isn't even relevant to this case, I said it to show you can walk around with a weapon in Wisconsin, it's not illegal, unless you're doing those things. The law about rifles and shotguns is kinda lax as well.Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin under new law
Children of any age can hunt in Wisconsin, after Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that eliminates the state’s minimum age.
Stop waving your google results around, I can also google stuff. Or did you just read an article by some journalist? It's the first thing that comes up when I google Wisconsin gun laws. If search results were stocks I'd have invested in that word combination and got rich.
They were also there to burn cars.
Even if vigilantism is somehow supervision( it isn't) it would still have to be supervised by their parent or legal guardian doing the vigilantism. Considering this kids buddies were not his parents or legal guardians " supervision, and training" is irrelevant either way and still illegal. ( and that is ignoring the fact that this was public and populated area where it is not legal to train regardless)
Those are also locals, not from out of town. It's a false equivalence.
They weren't even going for his gun though, they had a plastic bag.
He holds a job in Kenosha. Just because he lives 30 minutes away does not mean that he is "from out of town", or in other words, that he has no stake in Kenosha. He obviously has ties to the community, as evidenced by his job, his friends, and that he was requested to render aid. It's just as much his community to protect as the people who live within the city limits, but who commute to work somewhere else.
"Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle," the attorneys said. -https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/kyle-rittenhouse-defended-himself-did-nothing-wrong-attorney-says/2330687/
No, I'm saying you can't go into a dangerous situation and kill people. If he's going out of his way to "defend" others, he's doing the opposite of retreating and displaying his willingness to injure and kill.
It does when the guy had a plastic bag.
You're claiming that a person who is RUNNING AWAY is doing the OPPOSITE OF RETREATING.
You can actually join the military at 17.
He is still a kid. In Pediatric Medicine we still treat "kids" that are 17. The human brain is not even fully formed until the age of 26, and at 17, their brain still shows reduced activity in the prefrontal cortex region of the brain that controls judgement. Essentially, the brain slows or shuts down the judgement centers of your brain during puberty while it focuses on forming new connections in social centers of your brain and higher math. This is also why I do not think we should be giving 18 yr old guns as well and they should not be considered a mature adult until their judgement centers of their brain are fully formed and functioning. Essentially a teenager is wired to do stupid things because the part of their brain that controls saying " Hey, you don't want to do that because it is stupid" is essentially shut down.
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