Assassin's Creed III Gets Historical With Boston Tea Party Trailer

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DVS BSTrD said:
Mike Kayatta said:
All this talk in the trailer about "rebels" going after "The Empire" (no one called it that back then, by the way) you'd think it was a Star Wars spin-off.
The Revolution would have been a lot better with lightsabers.
Ask and you shall receive.
http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Star-Wars-American-Revolution-Painting-.jpg
OT: I have to say I like how this trailer shows the Boston Massacre accurately, a line of soldiers firing on an angry mob, not helpless citizens. I also like how they say "this is how it happened...or at least that's what you think"

P.S. I lot of people have commented about liberal use of the word Empire...well wasn't Britain an Empire?
 

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Blablahb said:
Why on earth would you want to put such details in a history class? It's only relevant for Americans.
You think the American Revolution might be an important part of English history considering that they lost the colonies in the American Revolution and suffered their first major defeat in awhile, and French considering that the American Revolution helped spark off the French Revolution.
Bullfrog1983 said:
Wait a second - they're not dressed up like natives! This isn't the Boston Tea Party.
Uh, it isn't unknown for Assassin's Creed to beat history over the head.
 

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Mike Kayatta said:
All this talk in the trailer about "rebels" going after "The Empire" (no one called it that back then, by the way) you'd think it was a Star Wars spin-off.
you know I think I'd like to play one game/story where its not rebels=good authority=bad..I fear AC3 is going to be rather biased

Red Dead Redemption had the right Idea...
 

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erttheking said:
Uh, it isn't unknown for Assassin's Creed to beat history over the head.
Pssh. It's not that they got it wrong, it's simply the result of their international, multicultural development team opting to be sensitive to the natives!

>.>

It's still probably more accurate than what appears to be taught in school. You know, judging by the things people believe.
 

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OT: I'm not an American history buff, but wasn't the actual destruction of the tea done by a rather small group, some dressed like Mohawks, secretly in the dead of night? It's not exactly the stirring panoply of mixed class and gender in the video.
There were a mob of colonials watching, silently approving the acts of the Sons of Liberty, which I bet is going to be America's Assassin's Guild.

And the whole Tea Party thing happened because Parliament gave the East Indies Trade Co. an exclusive monopoly over all tea imports into America, and seeing those guys were dicks, they would eventually raise the prices over time. In fact, they were selling it cheaper than the smuggled tea that colonials were buying at the moment, but Americans preferred principle over price.
 

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The reason they're not dressed up as natives:

#1, the game is not meant to be perfectly historically accurate, and explaining something like that takes away from the pace and adds little to the story.

#2, it's an animated painting, and in the paintings commemorating the event they would not have wanted to portray the colonists as hiding and trying to get the blame pinned on others.

#3, I've refused to watch the recent AC3 footage so I don't know if the mission actually did show NPCs dressed like natives.

#4, Assassin's Creed takes place in an alternate universe that while being SIMILAR to ours, is not exactly the same. Many things in it COULD have happened in our history, but as far as we know did not. For example in AC by the year 2012 the movie industry has collapsed, and Abstergo is a company which owns majority stock in every company above a certain size, though shadow corporations and in rare cases directly. Things that are not evident in today's world of 2012.

#5, and finally, the Animus is not a perfect interpretation of events. Consider the concept of viewing the memories of someone who never did any thing their whole life but stare at a wall. In an animus session, you would only be able to do more than that if the animus was able to pinpoint the location which the person was in, and the probable architecture that surrounded them. Since the Animus creates entire cities, and no person has ever looked at every single part of any one city, it's obvious that it doesn't just rely on memory. It reconstructs environments partly through its own personal database, such as paintings, maps pictures, and whatever of that specific place at that specific time period. It's not a time machine, it's an interpretation of another time. Thus is is not infallible.
 

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ProtoChimp said:
The one that mattered? Wow that's actually very insulting to American history.
meh. i like my history as much as the next guy, but it's an alternate universe (probably), and a game whose plot is basically 90% conspiracy with major historical figures and/or events cast in a very VERY different light. Why should they treat the american history any different than the rest?
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
You haven't been paying attention much, then.
no...though I do kind of avoid digging to deep as I liek to enter into things with less pre-conceived Ideas
Calvar Draveir said:
#4, Assassin's Creed takes place in an alternate universe that while being SIMILAR to ours, is not exactly the same. Many things in it COULD have happened in our history, but as far as we know did not. For example in AC by the year 2012 the movie industry has collapsed, and Abstergo is a company which owns majority stock in every company above a certain size, though shadow corporations and in rare cases directly. Things that are not evident in today's world of 2012.
huh really? how do we knwo that? (the movie industry I mean) I always find it kind of funny how through abstergo the templars weild so much influence...where as rhe assasins come across to me as a bunch of hippies and the scooby gang...hows that working out for ya guys?
 

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Vault101 said:
no...though I do kind of avoid digging to deep as I liek to enter into things with less pre-conceived Ideas
Except you're holding a pre-conceived idea right here and now.
 

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Vault101 said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
You haven't been paying attention much, then.
no...though I do kind of avoid digging to deep as I liek to enter into things with less pre-conceived Ideas
Calvar Draveir said:
#4, Assassin's Creed takes place in an alternate universe that while being SIMILAR to ours, is not exactly the same. Many things in it COULD have happened in our history, but as far as we know did not. For example in AC by the year 2012 the movie industry has collapsed, and Abstergo is a company which owns majority stock in every company above a certain size, though shadow corporations and in rare cases directly. Things that are not evident in today's world of 2012.
huh really? how do we knwo that? (the movie industry I mean) I always find it kind of funny how through abstergo the templars weild so much influence...where as rhe assasins come across to me as a bunch of hippies and the scooby gang...hows that working out for ya guys?
The fact that the Templars are so much more powerful than the Assassins in modern times is not an accident. Their leader was assassinated about 20 years prior to Desmond's story, and their training grounds systematically hunted down and destroyed. What remains is indeed somewhat ramshackle and disconnected, though they are still organized enough to go on missions and combat Templars.

The movie industry thing was in an Assassin's Creed 1 email.

Most of the supposed flaws or holes of the series that are pointed out come from people who are not familliar with all of the lore. It's not really all that complicated. It just has several layers. The Templar vs Assassins in Modern times, the Templar vs assassins in the past, and the Those Who Came Before layer, which is all the craziest stuff.
 

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Whilst I do feel my excitment for this game increasing with every trailer they put out, I can't help but wonder where my bloody British trailer is..

I mean the yanks had the 4th July trailer and this as well and that starting one where the assassin kills the British general..

Wheres the trailer depicting the battle of Camden, and the British thoroughly kicking the colonial Army's ass.. they don't even need to make a scene, just input that one from the patriot..
 

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Lord Kloo said:
Whilst I do feel my excitment for this game increasing with every trailer they put out, I can't help but wonder where my bloody British trailer is..

I mean the yanks had the 4th July trailer and this as well and that starting one where the assassin kills the British general..

Wheres the trailer depicting the battle of Camden, and the British thoroughly kicking the colonial Army's ass.. they don't even need to make a scene, just input that one from the patriot..
Remember that the game is more than just the american revolution. It takes place before and after. The revolution is the second act. Before and after the only possible enemies are colonists.

As for a trailer showing the colonists being killed, the AnvilNext trailer shows Conner doing some of that.

Remember that technically everyone was british until after the revolution.