Assassins Creed Karma system

[Sean0925]

Most the guards are pretty bad anyway. Not to mention the urge to kill them rises when they start pushing me!

 

[Combustion Kevin]

I always found it funny that when you poisen a guard and knock him over (like shoving him) before the poisen kills him off he just rolled on the ground in agony instead for a long time.

I like to think he's having the worst day ever instead of dying.

OT: no, as stated above, assassins are more anti-hero by their very nature, pulling a moral system on em is like putting someone in charge of guilt-tripping them over all those guard's children you've left fatherless.

acknowledging that would be cool, but don't tie a mechanic to it.

 

[Grivahri]

I actually agree in a way. It would give you an incentive to just kill your target instead of everyone and be discreet. That is what makes assassins creed fun. Get to a target without being seen, kill him then flee from the pursuers and hide.

 

[Grivahri]

Better idea would be too just make stealth the better option in most situations by making combat against several opponents actually be hard. I'm always annoyed that the best option for an assassin seems to be to rush in and just spam the counterattack button over and over again untill all enemies basically kill themselves.

I hope they do that at least when it comes to assassination targets. If you don't assassinate him and try to kill him with a sword other enemies will surround you and fuck you up. Or after the assassination you have to run because you can't beat the horde of enemies after you. I hope the rewrite the enemy AI and make them vicious, at least after an assassination.

 

[Rednog]

But you're in the animus...who cares if you kill virtual people?
Do you feel like you're a worse and worse person for every enemy you kill in a video game?

 

[crazyarms33]

The only way this would work for me is if the ratio of "evil" guards vs "innocent" guards was stacked like 15:1 in the evil guys favor. Half of the joy of the Assassin Creed games is fighting tons of guys and running together combo kills. Trying to punish me for taking out that annoying guard right on the roof I want to be on would irk me. Besides, its not like if you don't want to kill a particular guard you have to (generally speaking).

 

[MattRobinson]

I'd rather they make it so you could actually play like an assassin and sneak around and have the option to only kill your target.

 

[Astoria]

Having notoriety kinda is already like a karma thing. You kill more people, you get noticed quicker and if you don't you don't get noticed. There doesn't need to really be anything more than that for AC, besides, killing random guards is part of the fun of the game.

 

[Broady Brio]

I beat up most guards with my fists anyway. Also to increase the challenge. They lay there writhing in pain. They're not dead. I r happy.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

First rule of the Assassins creed (something you'd think is kind of essential to the game) is don't kill the innocent, only those who deserve it. The poor guard watching the rooftops is hardly as deserving as the templar grand master.

Mooks aren't innocent. Just because a guard wasn't involved in the decision making process doesn't mean he won't stab you in the service of his masters. And, to be fair, you are completely allowed to let guards go without penalty if they break and run or plead for mercy. The game still desyncs you for killing civilians, which works fine for me as a "karma meter".

Besides, in the heat of a big swordfight I don't want to have to think about who I am allowed to kill and not kill. Ezio isn't Batman, killing is the very foundation of the Assassin Order.

 

[Nerexor]

I've never felt particularly bad for killing guards in the assassins creed series. It was really easy in #1 where the guards were constantly dragging people off for no reason, extorting money from random people. They were criminals in uniform.

In AC2 and it's (too many) sequels, if you accidentally bumped into a guard they would try and beat the crap out of you. If you dared climb a ladder to a rooftop, they would shout once and then start shooting at you, even if you're in a normal area of the city. I mean what, some shmuck goes to hand his laundry on the roof and "HEY! YOU ARE NOT-A ALLOWED UP-A HERE!" "But, I own this house, it's my roof... OH MY GOD YOU SHOT ME WITH AN ARROW! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!"

I did eventually start to wonder if the rooftop guards got hazard pay though, given that I went out of my way to kill every one of them I could... especially in brotherhood where having the crossbow just makes it way too easy to pick them off.

TL;DR Fuck the guards. Kill 'em, loot 'em, toss their bodies on to the street as a warning to others to consider less fatal occupations.