I honestly feel like anybody buying Ubisoft stuff these days deserves what they get. Ubisoft has shown time and time again that they're happy to release utterly broken crap and adandon it. AC3, anybody?
Assassin's Creed: Unity's Season Pass Has Been Cancelled
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AC3 recieved six major patches on PC, plus story DLC. It was hardly abandoned.Flammablezeus said:
Speaking of piracy, all pirated copies derived from the RELOADED release of Unity are corrupt and the cause of a lot of freezing and crashing issues on PC.GAunderrated said:
Ubisoft as a company get accused of lying when they've done nothing of the sort. When have Ubisoft lied regarding Unity? Have they been obtuse? Yes. But never outright dishonest. I defend Ubisoft because ignorance annoys me. If the company is going to be bashed, it should be for actual transgressions.
You want an actual broken and abandoned Ubisoft game? Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow. Unplayable because it used Xbox shader libraries which break on modern GPUs.
Unity has problems. The game definitely has performance rot on PC, and the hitches can be infuriating. But as of this moment, the only real problem with the game is performance related. Most of the serious bugs have been squashed. If games having poor performance and physics quirks made them broken, GTA would be one of the worst videogame series of all time.
But only for the players. The pirates, as per usual, fixed everything, got the code stable, and submitted online because absolutely no anti-piracy trick ever works for long. They take it as a challenge and they tend to beat it. These complaints are from people who bought the game. When you say Uni has problems, that would be an understatement. It's like the kid who wets the bed regularly and tries to clean it up, but he does it poorly because he doesn't know what to actually do. Yeah, Ubi has problems. They have problems with coding and testing and marketing and especially PR. Every assurance that they will not wet the bed again (or rather, 'screw up the next game release') is a lie, because they don't know how to fix the problem. Hell, every release where it doesn't actually work is a lie. I can't help how dumb they make themselves look. They're the ones doing it.Ambient_Malice said:
Uh... Actually, the "fix" for the corrupt files made things worse, IIRC. Most people are blisfully unaware that the RELOADED version is borked. Ubisoft didn't release a corrupt version of Unity or a broken version of Far Cry 4. That was incompetent/impatient pirates.FalloutJack said:
Also, it annoys me how people praise hacks/mods for Watch_Dogs which disable/enable things which were disabled/enabled for a very good reason.
"This mod fixes the stuttering and allows High Resolution textures on 2GB cards!" Yea, it does that by DISABLING MIP-MAPPING, a fundamental graphic tech used since the 5th generation, and crucial to ensuring textures blend smoothly into the distance. People seriously believe Ubisoft are so incompetent they don't know how their own game's texture system works, and that modders magically "fixed" the game.
I'm sure that that's exactly what didn't actually happen. Hell, Ubi wouldn't know how to even SET a good trap. Nobody else does. Why should they? People believe that Ubi's a collective head of knuckles because there is no prevailing counter-opinion that explains it all away.Ambient_Malice said:
Well it's amazing that after six major patches and story DLC, I still can't progress with the main game because of a series of game-breaking glitches.Ambient_Malice said:
Luckily, three hundred or so games I own for PC still function perfectly well. Despite the fact that many don't have the kinds of funds that Assassin's Creed receives. Nor are they all without issue. But AC3 is one of the privileged two games that I gave up on due to gamebreaking bugs, despite my best efforts.
I understand your pain. I was unfortunate enough to encounter both the:Flammablezeus said:
Trading bug - which can only be fixed by using a keyboard to navigate menus instead of the mouse.
Fast travel/Travel bug - there's a fix. Can't remember it. But it badly affects all fast travelling and boarding a ship at a certain point to proceed.
AC3 was in horrible shape with extremely blatant cut corners and missing content. I readily admit that even though I very much like the game's tone. Ubi did a terrible job of patching it. But I think it's important to note they at least tried. It's not like, say, Prototype 2, which was pushed out with crippling bugs and memory leaks and never patched.
I don't like the way Ubisoft are in a position where they apparently MUST release these games on such a rapid schedule. I don't like the way Ubisoft ship now and fix later. I don't like how Ubisoft have resorted to using cookie cutter formulas for all their major franchises. (They turned Far Cry into Assassin's Creed: The FPS.) I badly miss the Ubisoft who made cool and interesting and unique AAA titles. King Kong, Far Cry: Instincts, that sorta thing. Ubisoft are burning out their IPs by making endless sequels with storylines spread far too thin across multiple entries.
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Seriously, look at Far Cry 4. It's an open world with a smear of story spread across it. A small core with a huge bloat of side-content, much of which is interchangable and has no real story content.
Watch_Dogs was similar. Finish the somewhat directionless main quest and... you're left with a hollow shell of a game world. Filled with bland "emergent" game content.
LMAO! I can't believe some stupid bastards actually bought the season pass! I mean seriously, they knew that buying a season pass for a video game isn't like buying a season pass for a television program, right? When you buy the season pass for a TV show, you know that even if the episodes you bought blow, at least you'll get the number of episodes you were promised, because they were filmed before they were put on iTunes. Now if you buy a season pass for a video game, on the other hand, the DLC you bought hasn't even been made yet. It's bad enough that people would buy DLC before they knew what DLC they're getting, but the really funny part is that if the game or the DLC does't sell as many copies as the publishers hoped, there's nothing to stop them from just making one or two DLCs and then calling it good. Just look at Dragon Age 2 for instance. Ubisoft is laughing all the way to the bank, get rekt scrubs. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get their horse armor in Assassin's Creed 5!
In Unity's case, people knew exactly what they were getting. I think.ObserverStatus said:
Dead Kings. (Main DLC. Given away free now.)
Bonus Missions+Gear. (Pre-order DLC, I believe.)
AC: Chronicles - China.
That's all the DLC which was ever announced, and all that was listed on the SP page.
I really don't like Season Passes, though.
I no longer follow with the AC-franchise but I'd heard that the latest installment had some issues, but I didn't know that it was so bad that Ubisoft is resorting to giving away games to Season Pass buyers as a way of compensation. Wow....
Legally speaking, since they never announced anything other than "Some" DLC (or "all released" DLC), that claim could, indeed, fully hold up in court. This is sorta why Season Passes are Bad Ideas, in a nutshell, actually; There's no protection for worth, and as long as they give you *something*, you're up a creek from a legal/rights perspective.seditary said:
I never really expected to see season passes go this poorly, but hey, here you have it from the people we feared would abuse it most...
Why the hell would Rogue even be on the list? It's not even on the same console. Rogue is a last-gen game, while Unity is for the next-gen systems, so why would Ubisoft offer Xbox One and PS4 players a game they can't even play because it's not for their systems.Razorback0z said:
Your point could make some sense if there are ways to tie the user's accounts together from the next-gen system to the last-gen one (I don't know about this, so you could have a point there). However, that would still unleash a whole lot of problems, such as if someone with only say, a PS4, and no PS3 bought Rogue, but finds they can't play it because it's last-gen exclusive.
Don't get me wrong, I think the fact that Ubisoft allowed this to be shipped is terrible, and I don't like their practices one bit (though I do admit I like the AC franchise), but out of all the things to be ragging on them for, I don't see this as one of them.
Did, did they just steal money from people? I mean the compensation thing doesn't make any sense, if people wanted any of those games wouldn't they have bought them? This is essentially the equivalent of me going to the store to buy milk and subsequently told after paying the cashier that I can't have my milk, and that I have to choose between a banana, an apple, a scissor and gum. All fine products but none are able to complement my bowl of cereal appropriately.
Hahahahahahaha! I'll tell you what, if Yves Saint-Laurent, or whatever the fuck his name is, takes a pay reduction and has no Christmas Bonus to compensate, then I'll believe they're sorry.
This will barely dent profits as they've already made their money from the average gullible gamer.
Who's betting their shareholders won't still have a congratulatory circle jerk at the fact that they're still rolling in money?
This will barely dent profits as they've already made their money from the average gullible gamer.
Who's betting their shareholders won't still have a congratulatory circle jerk at the fact that they're still rolling in money?
luckily I learned my lesson with the Batman: Arkham Origins Season Pass, no more passes for me ever
I don't see that as awfully nice but as "lets do as little as possible so that the BBB and the government doesn't come after us while hanging on to the dupes money". I'ld bet money that they aren't offering physical copies. And what if you are ardent Ubisoft consumer and got most of those games and the rest you aren't interested in... well shit out of luck, because they aren't offering cash back.The_Blue_Rider said:
And this is exactly why Ubisoft needs to rethink its annual release schedule. Assassin's Creed used to be a flagship franchise, now they're synonymous with shovelware.
This also illustrates how fundamentally broken and anti-consumer the preorder and "day 1 patch" culture is. It encourages developers to rush out unfinished products, and penalises gamers who aren't willing to take part in a $60 Beta Test by locking them out of all the incentives (early or exclusive access to equipment, missions, cut-price DLC, double XP, whatever).
As trading practices go it's utterly rotten and we need to reject it. Ideally we could get some trading standard legislation passed outlawing this, but in the interim, we can fight this as individuals by refusing to buy preorders or season passes. Vote with your wallets, people.
This also illustrates how fundamentally broken and anti-consumer the preorder and "day 1 patch" culture is. It encourages developers to rush out unfinished products, and penalises gamers who aren't willing to take part in a $60 Beta Test by locking them out of all the incentives (early or exclusive access to equipment, missions, cut-price DLC, double XP, whatever).
As trading practices go it's utterly rotten and we need to reject it. Ideally we could get some trading standard legislation passed outlawing this, but in the interim, we can fight this as individuals by refusing to buy preorders or season passes. Vote with your wallets, people.
Normally the practice is to give out DLC for free some time later than that DLC was released to those who paid for it. At the very least then, those who paid for it have bought the benefit of early access. Unless I misunderstand something in this case, the DLC will be initially released for free to everyone, simultaneously. That is definitely a devaluing of the product for those who paid to have access to it, and is completely different than when previously paid-for DLC is released for free at a later date.Ambient_Malice said: