Astronomers Puzzle Over Most Mysterious Star In The Galaxy

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Astronomers Puzzle Over Most Mysterious Star In The Galaxy

Scientists are investigating an unusual star surrounded by what could be comets... or alien life.

We've covered a ton of bizarre interstellar phenomenon at The Escapist, be it <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132946-Largest-Yellow-Star-Ever-Spotted-One-Million-Times-Brighter-than-Sun>enormous stars, <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137011-Astronomers-Discover-the-Remains-of-One-of-The-Oldest-Stars-in-our-Universe>ancient stars, or even <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/140642-NASAs-NuSTAR-Telescope-Finds-Screams-Of-Zombie-Stars>zombie stars. We have a pretty good handle on stars at this point, is what I'm saying. So why are astronomers so fascinated by one spotted between the Cygnus and Lyra constellations? Simple - we've never seen anything like it. This mature star is surrounded by obscenely high volumes of matter that few current explanations account for. It even has intelligent astronomers dropping the "aliens" phrase like we're guest stars on the History Channel.

"We'd never seen anything like this star," Yale postdoc Tabetha Boyajian said. "It was really weird. We thought it might be bad data or movement on the spacecraft, but everything checked out."

First uncovered in 2011 by Kepler's "citizen scientist" program Planet Hunters, this star looked strange right from the start. Its light pattern was distict from 150,000 nearly stars, filled with inconsistent dips that implied its photons were being blocked by something. Which is fairly normal for a young star surrounded by matter, but this one had matured to the point where only a few planets should crop up, if anything.

Boyajian recently <a href=http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf>published a paper describing the phenomenon and offering possible explanations. After covering everything from defective instruments to a massive asteroid impact, only one explanation holds up to scrutiny: Another star passed through the system and left a trail of comets behind. Even so, that's exceedingly rare, creating a specific light pattern that hasn't been replicated across 150,000 stars. Which is where alien life comes in.

"When [Boyajian] showed me the data, I was fascinated by how crazy it looked," Penn State University astronomer Jason Wright explained. "Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build."

Whether the debris could belong to giant alien spacecraft or space junk like satellites isn't clear. But it's enough for the SETI Research Center to put together a proposal to check for unusual radio waves in the region. The first observations would occur in January, and if they seem to come from technological sources, this star could get even more attention. "If we saw something exciting, we could ask the director for special allotted time on [New Mexico's "Very Large Array"]," Wright said. "And in that case, we'd be asking to go on right away."

Perhaps this will turn out to be comets, space junk, or signs of an alien civilization. Either way, it's always wonderful to find new mysteries that stump even seasoned astronomers.

Source: The Atlantic

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Its either a C'tan eating a star, Unicorn, a dyson sphere or evidence of a Lovecraftian nightmare lumbering through space.

Nothing else need be considered!
 

Jacked Assassin

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Adam Jensen said:
Hopefully it's a species of peaceful, hedonistic and sexy humanoid aliens.
Because if it were anything else it would magically be bestiality.

....

That or you can always settle for a human cosplayer.
 

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I want to believe.
Sadly, the best thing we can ever do is watch, though. Does it say anywhere how far it is from us?
 

Piorn

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RatGouf said:
Adam Jensen said:
Hopefully it's a species of peaceful, hedonistic and sexy humanoid aliens.
Because if it were anything else it would magically be bestiality.

....

That or you can always settle for a human cosplayer.
Noooo, come on.
The Harkness Test makes it perfectly clear that when it has human-like intellect, sexual maturity, and the ability to explicitely consent, then it's fair game.
It's only bestiality if it has a lower intelligence level from humans.
 

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Yawn, this star is 1481 light years away so what we are seeing comes from 534AD hmm how much progress have humans made since then? so what ever there using now must be awesome!

Hundreds of years from now still observing the star it suddenly disappears as they finish the dyson sphere and we freak out still observing things from nearly 1500 hundred ago.

You know how depressing this is? if this really is artificial it means they haven't broken the light barrier yet otherwise they would of been here by now.
 

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P-89 Scorpion said:
You know how depressing this is? if this really is artificial it means they haven't broken the light barrier yet otherwise they would of been here by now.
Hardly. Even if an advanced species had FTL they wouldn't necessarily go exploring every star system, and at 1500 LY away we're pretty damn far.

This is quite interesting to me. Hopefully we can get some kind of better reading of the phenomena.
 

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RatGouf said:
Adam Jensen said:
Hopefully it's a species of peaceful, hedonistic and sexy humanoid aliens.
Because if it were anything else it would magically be bestiality.

....

That or you can always settle for a human cosplayer.
Correct term is Xenophelia, regardless of how human they look ;).

So who's starting the betting? Vulcans, Turians, Minbari, Goa'uld...
 

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Piorn said:
RatGouf said:
Adam Jensen said:
Hopefully it's a species of peaceful, hedonistic and sexy humanoid aliens.
Because if it were anything else it would magically be bestiality.

....

That or you can always settle for a human cosplayer.
Noooo, come on.
The Harkness Test makes it perfectly clear that when it has human-like intellect, sexual maturity, and the ability to explicitely consent, then it's fair game.
It's only bestiality if it has a lower intelligence level from humans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuvHPr4BGk
there is still very much a line
 

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Piorn said:
The Harkness Test makes it perfectly clear that when it has human-like intellect, sexual maturity, and the ability to explicitely consent, then it's fair game.
So the alien sex test is determined by WWJHD?
 

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spartan231490 said:
It's unique, but there's no reason to suggest that it's aliens. It could be any matter at all.
Well the reason there talking about artificial structures is that by our current understanding any natural matter around an old star like this one should have been sucked in by now if it was a young star that's a different matter but it's not young.
 

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DarkArk said:
P-89 Scorpion said:
You know how depressing this is? if this really is artificial it means they haven't broken the light barrier yet otherwise they would of been here by now.
Hardly. Even if an advanced species had FTL they wouldn't necessarily go exploring every star system, and at 1500 LY away we're pretty damn far.
It would be like trying to visit every star system in Spore. At first you get really excited and go for it, but after about the 20th system, you get bored and only go to interesting systems. And we weren't interesting in the 6th century.

All glory to Spode.
 

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spartan231490 said:
It's unique, but there's no reason to suggest that it's aliens. It could be any matter at all.
Not in the least. A planet the size of Jupiter would give 1% occlusion, this is 22%. A black hole could be large enough, but that poses its own problems- not the least of which is the occlusion's irregularity. The most likely explanation is something like a comet swarm, but even that doesn't perfectly fit. This may well be an astronomical phenomenon we've never encountered before, but even our best guesses don't quite match up (given our current understandings, anyway). In light of no known natural explanation fitting, suggesting an artificial one is perfectly reasonable.
 

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Is it kinda scary to think that in the not-so-distant future our culture could be at it's end of being 'pure'? Of being absolutely uninfluenced by any other cultures outside of our planet. Just being able to see what alien structures look like, what alien construction or architecture could look like would have huge cultural shockwaves that there is no good comparison to.
 

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Fanghawk said:
"Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build."
How would you know what an alien civilization would build? For all we know they may be a race of giants propelled through space by farts.

P-89 Scorpion said:
You know how depressing this is? if this really is artificial it means they haven't broken the light barrier yet otherwise they would of been here by now.
and why would they chose our start system of the billions of choices they could have made? its not like we are even in close neighboarhood.

delroland said:
It would be like trying to visit every star system in Spore.
All glory to Spode.
Visit, what do you mean visit. We must conquer every system and assimilate it into our massive nation. even if it means buying them out. Seriuosly, i conquered around 50 systems till i gave up. planned to conquer ALL.
 

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Chaosian said:
Is it kinda scary to think that in the not-so-distant future our culture could be at it's end of being 'pure'? Of being absolutely uninfluenced by any other cultures outside of our planet. Just being able to see what alien structures look like, what alien construction or architecture could look like would have huge cultural shockwaves that there is no good comparison to.
Purity is highly overrated, and desire to maintain it keeps us experiencing the wonders of life. I think contact with (non-malevolent) alien life would be very beneficial to us, especially in the humility department.
 

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I will point out in this discussion that the remaining issue with the meteor cloud theory is that no conceivable circumstance would result in a 22% dimming of the star. This is a similar issue to the planetary collision theory which fails because not enough infrared light has been produced to allow for it.

This is likely something we haven't considered or witnessed before. Doesn't have to be aliens but it does have to be something massive. I mean, like super massive. Jupiter can only blot out 1% of our sun and this star is even larger than ours.

P-89 Scorpion said:
Yawn, this star is 1481 light years away so what we are seeing comes from 534AD hmm how much progress have humans made since then? so what ever there using now must be awesome!

Hundreds of years from now still observing the star it suddenly disappears as they finish the dyson sphere and we freak out still observing things from nearly 1500 hundred ago.

You know how depressing this is? if this really is artificial it means they haven't broken the light barrier yet otherwise they would of been here by now.
How would they have detected us? We haven't been emitting radio for 1,500 years and we don't have a big-ass megastructure blotting out 22% of our sun to provide a massive wink at neighboring solar systems. We also don't know how many other potential civilizations are out there. The goal of visiting other civilizations would include a desire to obtain new technology and I'm betting dollars to donuts that we don't have anything to teach these guys technology wise. So we'd be low on their list if there were several other civilizations.
 

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Chaosian said:
Is it kinda scary to think that in the not-so-distant future our culture could be at it's end of being 'pure'? Of being absolutely uninfluenced by any other cultures outside of our planet. Just being able to see what alien structures look like, what alien construction or architecture could look like would have huge cultural shockwaves that there is no good comparison to.
More likely we'll ruin their culture once they discover our tentacle porn. But even if we don't find aliens I expect this concept of pure going away anyway. Because humans will alter themselves when they have the option to do so.