AT&T Buys T-Mobile

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emeraldrafael

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In what would be one of the biggest deals since the financial crisis broke, the US telecoms giant AT&T has agreed to buy T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom for $39bn (£24bn), creating the biggest mobile operator in the US.

The deal would bring together the second and third largest mobile groups in the US and will thus face intense regulatory scrutiny. If approved, the merger would shrink the number of major national wireless operators in the US to three from four.

Last May, telecoms regulator the Federal Communications Commission warned against growing concentration among mobile providers. The agency would have to approve the transfer of T-Mobile's spectrum licences to AT&T.

AT&T will pay $25bn in cash for T-Mobile USA and the rest in stock, giving T-Mobile's German parent an 8% stake in AT&T. The agreement has been approved by the boards of directors at both AT&T and Deutsche Telekom.

Together, AT&T and T-Mobile would have nearly 130m customers, about a third more than current market leader Verizon Wireless, a joint venture between the UK's Vodafone and Verizon. The combined firm would be more than twice the size of the third largest carrier, Sprint Nextel.

"This transaction represents a major commitment to strengthen and expand critical infrastructure for our nation's future," said Randall Stephenson, AT&T chairman and chief executive. "It delivers significant customer, shareowner and public benefits that are available at this level only from the combination of these two companies with complementary network technologies, spectrum positions and operations."

Deutsche Telekom chairman and chief executive René Obermann said: "After evaluating strategic options for T-Mobile USA, I am confident that AT&T is the best partner for our customers, shareholders and the mobile broadband ecosystem. Our common network technology makes this a logical combination and provides an efficient path to gaining the spectrum and network assets needed to provide T-Mobile customers with 4G LTE and the best devices. Also, the transaction returns significant value to Deutsche Telekom shareholders and allows us to retain exposure to the US market."

In a press release, AT&T set out the argument it is likely to take to the regulators in favour of a merger. The firm claims the US wireless industry is "one of the most fiercely competitive markets in the world and will remain so after this deal. The US is one of the few countries in the world where a large majority of consumers can choose from five or more wireless providers in their local market. For example, in 18 of the top 20 US local markets, there are five or more providers." AT&T also argued that jointly the firms would provide a better wireless broadband service to rural areas, an Obama administration priority.

The combined company is expected to earn back the price of the deal in the next three years as it makes more money from customers and reduces costs by closing retail outlets and cutting back office, technical and call centre staff.
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Just thought I'd gauge some reaction, cause I didnt see anything here about it. At least, not Thread Wise.

Personally... well, I'm Verizon, so this doesnt exactly bother me, but I'm sorta surprised it went through. The US likes to keep this stuff from happening because of Monopolies deals that Bell used to have. <url=http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/21/2741932/sprint-shares-tumble-on-att-merger.html>Sprint's stock alone fell by 16% because of this. Though I dont see them lowering prices like they say they will.

So, thoughts Escapists? Particularly AT&T/T-Mobile Users, but anyone else too.
 

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I use T-mobile (I,m going to use KPN) and I,m not that worried about it
PS if you happen to have AT&T and happen to go to holland don,t expect any good reception (with the exception of big cities T-Mobile is crap)
 

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Didn't AT&T try to outdo all their competition before, using diseconomies of scale that got them in major trouble?

Are they trying to do it again?!
 

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lacktheknack said:
Didn't AT&T try to outdo all their competition before, using diseconomies of scale that got them in major trouble?

Are they trying to do it again?!
I suppose so. I know At&T got slapped with something a while ago, though I'm not sure the specifics. I think this time its just more subtle (though I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to buy Sprint).
 

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Hoo-ray for monopolies, looks like we've got even less choices for providers, great. That being said, I've always had AT&T and they've been great for me, even with the iPhone.

emeraldrafael said:
(though I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to buy Sprint).
That's ridiculous, like a growing cable company like Time Warner buying an outdated piece of shit like AO... You may have a point there.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Didn't AT&T try to outdo all their competition before, using diseconomies of scale that got them in major trouble?

Are they trying to do it again?!
That was actually an anti-trust suit because AT&T wanted to get into the computer business, so the company was split into a large group of "Baby Bells" that could not have more than 70% of their original value.

This is closer to the Cingular buy out than anything else, and anyone who thinks this isn't a big deal needs to remember that Verizon Wireless used to be named Bell Atlantic who then bought a few of the other "Baby Bells."

We are about to have two real choices in Cellular service, and they are both stocked with old Southwest Bell employees. My Fiancee's parent's worked for AT&T when it was Southwest Bell and after the merger till 2005, so I've had my ear talked off about all of this.
 

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mikeysnakes said:
Hoo-ray for monopolies, looks like we've got even less choices for providers, great. That being said, I've always had AT&T and they've been great for me, even with the iPhone.

emeraldrafael said:
(though I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to buy Sprint).
That's ridiculous, like a growing cable company like Time Warner buying an outdated piece of shit like AO... You may have a point there.
AT&T is hardly a growing company. Its a well established and has been around for a while. Besides, if it bought Sprint, thats still all those customers brought into their network and have them over Verizon.

And Verizon has the iPhone. Far superior network.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
mikeysnakes said:
Hoo-ray for monopolies, looks like we've got even less choices for providers, great. That being said, I've always had AT&T and they've been great for me, even with the iPhone.

emeraldrafael said:
(though I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to buy Sprint).
That's ridiculous, like a growing cable company like Time Warner buying an outdated piece of shit like AO... You may have a point there.
AT&T is hardly a growing company. Its a well established and has been around for a while. Besides, if it bought Sprint, thats still all those customers brought into their network and have them over Verizon.

And Verizon has the iPhone. Far superior network.

Can you complete your itunes/cydia downloads and still talk on the phone with verizon? i honestly dont know, i just keep seeing those stupid at&t commercials.
 

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Snarky said:
I would imagine so. I dont use an iPhone, but I have friends that do and family members, who went to AT&T to get an iPhone. Then when Verizon got it, they finished their contracts, then went back to Verizon and said it was better. I'll have to ask one of them.
 

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<--- insider

Ok One thing you have to remember that both AT&T and verizon are part of the baby bells. What is now AT&T started off as Cingular, which was headed as a joint venture between Bell south and SBC (southwestern bell) So regardless, the money in effect still goes to the same people, Bell.

Now there are a couple of things to point out. This has happened before. When it was Cingular and in the number two position to verizon, Cingular, with loans from its parent companies Bell south & SBC, Purchased AT&T mobility. SBC eventually stepped in and decided to rebrand Cingular as AT&T wireless as they felt that the AT&T name was more recognizable than cingular (Even after spending billions in marketing to sell the Cingular name)

Now as for AT&T attempting to purchase T mobile, They have had that on their agenda since at least 2004. They instead purchased AT&T Mobility, which also had to go through governmental approval then to ensure the purchase would be allowed and prevent another monopoly. Its approval went through very quickly (I think less than 3 months)

As for this aquisition, I have trouble thinking it will go through that easily this time. Part of the reason why the AT&T aquisition went through was because of T mobiles existence. It allowed for distinct competition to Cingulars GSM platform. It will be much harder to sell this deal to the justice department as if this gets approved there will be in effect no serious competition for AT&T as it relates to their TDMA/GSM platform, leaving their only serious competitiors being Sprint and Verizon which are both CDMA based platforms. (the difference in technology for the average user boils down to time division tech and code division tech, which most people will identify as AT&Ts need for a sim card and Verizon and sprint not needing one.


From T mobiles point of view it makes sense as AT&T uses the same tech, and T mobile for years has just been leasing use of AT&Ts tower system. Problem is that the aquisition seems doomed to be struck down for fear of creating a monopoly. If it is struck down, T mobile will try to shop themselves around which Verizon and Sprint will likely decline because of the differences in tech and the fact T mobile has next to nothing in actual physical assets such as towers and relays. They might try to sell to a smaller up and coming regional carrier, or cease operations in the US. If the aqusition gets approved once again AT&T will become the nations largest carrier by virtue of number two purchasing number 3(in this case 2 purchasing 4) and much like what happened last time, people will exit in droves over the course of a two year timespan (basically the life of a service agreement) which will in turn will bolster the ranks of verizon and sprint, with Verizon coming out on top once again, all simply because people really hate AT&T and with good reason.

The problem with AT&T is that from an organization standpoint they are extremely poorly structured, and have a wasteful and impractical model. More often than not their solution to any problem is to throw money at it. Just like they did by buying GSM technology. Just like they did by buying out competition, Just like they did by buying exclusivity rights from apple, Just like they are trying to do again. Technologically they tend to stay one step behind the curve, just like they did with push to talk tech, Just like they did with GPS tech, Just like they have with 4G bandwidth.

So really all this boils down is being another monitary bandaid for a company who has a lost limb. It might help for a short time, but ultimately it will fail because there are greater underlying problems.

BAH! Dont want to think about this any more as it brings up bad and resent filled memories.

EDIT: Allow me to clarify just in case people get confused by this, because it can in fact be confusing. The AT&T mobility company circa 2005 does not exist any more. What is being called AT&T today IS Cingular. AT&T did not buy cingular, SBC and Bell South, Cingulars parent companies bought AT&T mobility and renamed their existing wireless division, Cingular, to AT&T because globally AT&T is a more recognized name (by virtue of being in existence for decades before the cellphone boom) than Cingular.

TLDR: Cingular bought AT&T, not the other way around. They just decided to use the AT&T name.
 

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I started out with XCingular, which got taken in by AT&T. To be honest, while I have bad service in spots, my regular flip phone saved my ass when I got stranded in the middle of nowhere with a group of people and the only cell tower in the area (between mountains) was AT&T and they all had Verizon. I've never not had service/3G, even in areas where I shouldn't (where my friends' phones are unable to get signal due to construction or design/materials) with my iPhone that I got in January. I know people tend to complain and have had bad experiences, but on the whole mine have been very good. I wish they had more options on plans (such as an unlimited data plan for smartphones, or better price scaling for minimum call minutes or texting in general).

In addition, shouldn't the conversion/combination things theoretically improve cell service, because AT&T is gaining T mobile's towers? Don't quote me on that, but it seems like a logical conclusion to draw.

IDK. In general it doesn't seem to affect me. I do tend to get annoyed with the tv commercials of Verizon vs AT&T, especially since harping on speed seems to be all they do anymore, and as long as the service stays at the level it is I definitely won't leave AT&T for Verizon.