At what point is a Franchise Whoring Out?

PsychicTaco115

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xSKULLY said:
i did what i always do when these threads come along and consulted google!

according to the urban dictionary whoring out is
To ruin what was once good for the purposes of making money. For example, an MMORPG that was once free to play starts charging $20 a month, or a store everyone likes starts charging excessive amounts for its products

/thread google is all powerful, maybe people should use it more often
Google!? It's too powerful for my mortal eyes! D:

 

pierre666lol

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To be honest I am happy with companies doing it - on the condition that the games are good.
Other then that it generally happens around the point where the story conclusivly ends; e.g protagonist sacrifices self/ wins/ lives happily ever after.
 

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At the point where you begin to mind it personally. This, like everything else, is entirely subjective.

Angry Birds? Candy? T-shirts at the Target? In my eyes, whored out to hell and back, quit it, I'm so sick of it.

Persona 4? With its anime, rerelease, stage play, fighting game, light novel and manga spinoff? Awesome, you deserve it Atlus. Do it more.

Why? No reason other than I liked Persona 4 more than I did Angry Birds and do not mind seeing it everywhere. I think everyone has one of these franchises that they cannot get enough of, so there's really not an objective standard of measurement for what constitutes "whoring out" or "milking" or whatever.
 

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When I think "Oh, not ANOTHER one of these!" you're pretty much at that point in my eyes.
 

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veloper said:
I think people are confusing whoring out with milking.

Tons of sequels and merchandise is milking an IP.
It's whoring out when a company starts ignoring the old fanbase of a series, who made the previous entries possible with their money and instead caters to a new(bigger) audience with unwanted changes made to the series.
wow

Dragonage milked by the second game? i actually sort of agree there
 

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When the games have yearly releases with little to no changes in gameplay/story. Sonic, mario and Modern Warfare come to mind. Also Halo.
Halo doesn't have yearly releases - never has, though I suppose it may do under 343. Also the story progresses across each one. Gameplay doesn't change much (arguable whether that's even a bad thing), but still more than CoD.
 

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pierre666lol said:
To be honest I am happy with companies doing it - on the condition that the games are good.
If the product is a good evolution or just repeats the same formula after a few years without appearing, then at most it's considered "milking".

"Whoring out" is when you sacrifice the quality. Call of Duty 4 had an exclusive open beta for Charlie Oscar Delta members. Guess how many other CoD titles had a beta too? Guess how many CoD titles had to suffer patch after patches of fixes because of fans crying?

CoD could be a simple "milking" but you just have to look around the internet to find that CoD is plagued with problems that need fixing because of rushed development. Developers are sacrificing quality, which means "whoring out".
 

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spartandude said:
veloper said:
I think people are confusing whoring out with milking.

Tons of sequels and merchandise is milking an IP.
It's whoring out when a company starts ignoring the old fanbase of a series, who made the previous entries possible with their money and instead caters to a new(bigger) audience with unwanted changes made to the series.
wow

Dragonage milked by the second game? i actually sort of agree there
DA2 is actually more of a whoring out thing, or selling out, before that became to mean just financial success.
Maybe Bioware was also also whoring it up with DA2, as in doing too much of a thing, like those same few dungeons repeated over and over.

Milking? Are there DA2 action figures too now?
 

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When the franchise has over 10 games (regardless of whether or not they're prequels, sequels, spin-offsm,etc) it gets a bit much. Final Fantasy is a bit of an exception since they only have similar elements and completely different characters, storylines and universes.

That and when random side-characters get their own game, it can be a little painful!
 

Woodsey

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When your planned trilogy has turned into 5 main games before the 'third' has even been released.
 

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Whoring out to me, is when the prime object is to make a a game to make money rather then to make money to make more games. Some franchises are pretty much entirely about being the biggest whores on the block from their very inception.
 

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is this a seaqual?

what the hell does Kratos have left to kill?
I've heard stories from old time AD&D (late 70s/ early 80s) players about how they did something similar to Kratos. They took a supplement called Deities and Demigods, opened up to a page and said, "well that's the Greek pantheon taken down. It looks like the Oceania gods are next."
 

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When is God of War whoring itself out?

The day we go into the perfume rack at a major anchor store and start seeing Vengeance, the official GoW cologne sold right next to whatever Paris Hilton has her name on this week.
 

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As soon as it tacks "Revelation" onto its name.

I kid, I kid. Kinda...
But Myst IV: Revelation was really good! D:

At least... until the end...

OT: A game franchise is "Whoring Out" once it gets action figures outside of the Collector's Edition.
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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I don't use the word 'whore' until the franchise is on the side of a Happy Meal. So I'd say the game industry is doing pretty well by those standards.
 

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I considering it milking it since it finished it's planned trilogy.

However I'm not quite sure how the ending God of War 3 was "conclusive".
But I suppose "nothing left to kill" is a kind of conclusive ending.