Atkinson Says You Don't Need to Impale People
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Sometimes violence is needed. Sometimes its just there because people enjoy a bit of killing. Violence is fine when it's there for a reason, usually to reinforce the horror of a situation. Imagine the D-Day scene in Saving Private Ryan, now imagine it minus the blood and dismemberment etc. It loses some of the impact of the horrible situation, right? When its all there for no reason then I usually just get bored and stop paying attention to it. I'm very pro 18+ by the way.
Is it just me that, despite not being much into violent video games, suddenly becomes really interested in impaling a specific someone on a spike every time that twunt Atkinson opens his stupid face?
I just love the fact no one is defending Atkinson.
OT: What this "special" politician has to realize is most gamers are 18+, and will not come CLOSE to killing someone, so they should be able to make their own decisions.
I feel kinda bad for Atkinson though... I'm thirteen and I can tell his facts came from the anal area
OT: What this "special" politician has to realize is most gamers are 18+, and will not come CLOSE to killing someone, so they should be able to make their own decisions.
I feel kinda bad for Atkinson though... I'm thirteen and I can tell his facts came from the anal area
Well if 1 to 2 percent of the population will commit acts of violence that would make Ivan milant take notes if they play video games THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE NOW SHOULD THEY!
Yes he is, he is an elected member of the SA parliment.Floppertje said:
He holds many porfolios, one of which is AG. The AG is appointed for as long as they hold office and are assigned the AG protfolio by the leader of their political party (and confirmed only as formality).
Atkinson can lose the AG portfolio if;
the Labor party fails to keep the majority in SA next election (a Liberal MP would be appointed AG),
Atkinson fails to get re-elected,
or the Labor party leader decides someone else should be AG (and Labor wins a majority).
If in doubt, give him a call and ask him (8207 1723)....
http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35&Itemid=24
The argument there is the difference between the level of interaction with what you are seeing.AceDiamond said:
I for one think it is a stupid argument as a whole.
My great Grandparents generation was already old when the TV came along and the opinion at the time was that it was a worthless piece of trash and they forced them to be extremely conservative with it. Since then of course you can see where it has ended up. I am sure this pattern has repeated itself over and over again with all forms of media.
Video games by comparison are still new, and still looked at by some of my parents generation as simply toys for kids. That stigma will probably stick until you have had multiple generations grow up to adults with games. Remember that games as household medium are barely 30 years old, and have only been fairly popular for about 15-20 of those years. Mostly becoming more popular in houses in the early to mid 90's.
"Atkinson Says You Don't Need to Impale People"
I don't think he understands how sex works.
Second would be that on the whole I find it harder to connect with games. That extra level of necessary interactivity makes it impossible for me to get wholly engrossed in the medium.
Movies however my heart rate becomes irregular, I have a slight feeling of being out of my own body, and I attach to one of the characters to the point where I get absolutely terrified if they are or I get happy when they are. It is actually kind of troubling when I think about it.
My point there being that these sort of things effect epople differently. I'm much more likely to kill someone after a violent movie than a violent game. Especially if I am hurt or killed in that movie (well..."I"...whoever I attached to
).
Games make it hard for me to be aggressive. Just too good for relaxation regardless of the topic being discussed.
Found Tetris to be as entertaining and relaxing as Grand Theft Auto III.
Well up till the police started spawning around every corner. Then I got cheats to stop that from being an issue because it was (and is) poor game design.
I don't think he understands how sex works.
Two things. The first being how the arguments against games are similar to the arguments against literacy way back in the day. People would describe walking in on family members who were completely absorbed without any ability to seperate fantasy and reality.manaman said:
Second would be that on the whole I find it harder to connect with games. That extra level of necessary interactivity makes it impossible for me to get wholly engrossed in the medium.
Movies however my heart rate becomes irregular, I have a slight feeling of being out of my own body, and I attach to one of the characters to the point where I get absolutely terrified if they are or I get happy when they are. It is actually kind of troubling when I think about it.
My point there being that these sort of things effect epople differently. I'm much more likely to kill someone after a violent movie than a violent game. Especially if I am hurt or killed in that movie (well..."I"...whoever I attached to
).Games make it hard for me to be aggressive. Just too good for relaxation regardless of the topic being discussed.
Found Tetris to be as entertaining and relaxing as Grand Theft Auto III.
Well up till the police started spawning around every corner. Then I got cheats to stop that from being an issue because it was (and is) poor game design.
So a very small group of gamers wants to impose their will on the Austrlian populace (who if I'm not mistaken spend their time getting drunk, out-swearing sailors, and provoking dangerous animals)... you know, kind of like one guy deciding what is right for everyone on a continent.
Jesus Australians, man up and kick these fucking whelps out and do yourselves a favor. What next? You can't eat certain breakfast cereals because they promote tooth decay?
Jesus Australians, man up and kick these fucking whelps out and do yourselves a favor. What next? You can't eat certain breakfast cereals because they promote tooth decay?
Dear Mr Atkinson,
Can you show any evidence of any killers being gamers? Or where your hard scientific data that allowing these games would hurt society came from?
Can you explain why; if only people who want to impale others care about this rating, you saw fit to try and overturn Mewtwos, when you specifically said you had better things to rail about?
If not, then you are simply a troll, expressing your "small vested interest" on a country that no longer wants you. Perhaps you should just get laid once in a while and stop trying to hide 6 million AUS$ in your bank account.
Root
Can you show any evidence of any killers being gamers? Or where your hard scientific data that allowing these games would hurt society came from?
Can you explain why; if only people who want to impale others care about this rating, you saw fit to try and overturn Mewtwos, when you specifically said you had better things to rail about?
If not, then you are simply a troll, expressing your "small vested interest" on a country that no longer wants you. Perhaps you should just get laid once in a while and stop trying to hide 6 million AUS$ in your bank account.
Root
Least this debate has got the Federal gov. interested.
http://www.ag.gov.au/gamesclassification
Atkinson has to answer to the Labor party and I doubt he would have the political courage to cross the floor.
http://www.ag.gov.au/gamesclassification
Atkinson has to answer to the Labor party and I doubt he would have the political courage to cross the floor.
Ok, so from what I have heard, logic and polite-confrontation on this issue seem to fall on deaf ears with this fellow. So does anyone else find it ironic(?) that the only way that seems to be left to stop this guy from restricting the Australian rating system is with violence (with the exception of not electing him, though seeing as he is still in office that doesn't seem likely)??? I mean, his entire argument is that games make people violent, and yet, seeing as, if anyone did resort to violence to get the R18+ rating, it would be gamers, so the only way to stop his 'gamers are violent' argument is for gamers to be violent.
^^I just thought I'd point out that his 'anti-gamer' crusade can only be stopped by supporting his theory. (yes I realise there are probably other ways, but this is just one method which popped into my head).
^^I just thought I'd point out that his 'anti-gamer' crusade can only be stopped by supporting his theory. (yes I realise there are probably other ways, but this is just one method which popped into my head).
(My thoughts have been added in bold).TechNoFear said:
The coming South Australian elections could turn out to be quite interesting, what with all the incidents that have happened to both major parties. I guess we'll see what happens when the dust settles after the elections next year.
On the subject of impaling people. In GI Joe the movie, you know... a movie about kids little plastic toys which kids are going to see. The film is rated M and features a number of impalement scenes AND decapitations.
But remember kids, it's A-OK if Hollywood actors and lifelike make up hack ppl up, but games with their crappy pixels which don't look like real life is a no no!
But remember kids, it's A-OK if Hollywood actors and lifelike make up hack ppl up, but games with their crappy pixels which don't look like real life is a no no!
