Attack on Titan: Good or overrated crap?

[Kaimax]

One thing for sure, AoT is over-hyped as hell.

I used to read the manga, that shit went down hill fast. Don't know anyone who still reads it know cause of how retarded it got.

EDIT: I decided to expand, so be warned massive spoilers ahead. It's basically just of a list of all the stupid things that have happened in the MANGA NOT THE ANIME

It's getting to real stupid levels in the recent chapters, I honestly don't have any motivation read it anymore.

 

[Snotnarok]

This is exactly why I have no interest arguing with you, you can't handle a simple civil conversation with a stranger and go right to insults and out right not even respecting an opinion.

I think the show focus too much on angst, no matter how you want to spin that, no matter how you want to say it's the point, regardless of it actually being over done or not, me not liking the aspect is absolutely a fine reason NOT to enjoy something. Too much drama, too much action, too scary are all reasons many use to dislike something, but angst isn't?

Once again you'll notice I've said absolutely nothing about your opinion. I've said plenty about everything else but your opinion.

How do you reach a guy in a crowd? Of ...soldiers? Order them aside, or tell them to drag him over. That's how it works, solders don't get to openly cause that kind of nonsense and disrespect.

Yes, because soldiers on the brink of desertion (you know, the majority of the crowd) will completely obey everything they're told. Soldiers get to openly do whatever they want when they're surrounded by a crowd of other soldiers who completely agree with them, especially when the commander orders his men to let the deserters go.

How long were they in training? Marines have a 13 week training period in reality and that's where they are trained to understand how to work and react in combat without compromising your allies.

And the people in the show are trained for three years, but the majority of that seems to be spent learning how to use an incredibly complex machine, how to handle razor sharp swords, hand to hand combat, horseback riding, freerunning, how to handle a rifle, and how to attack a titan. If they did include how to handle combat in their training (they never show it, but why not just assume they did for the hell of it?), I'm not actually sure how you recreate giant monster situations for them to get accustomed to.

Look, I don't care how you want to spin this. Your options are TRY and fight, or die and let everyone else die, that is not something I can grasp. I'm not asking for elite badasses bumping chests, I'm asking for a variety of reactions that the show does not show with these troops. Anger, sadness, rage, compassion, freakouts are understandable, but not the -entire- army. The girl has 1 shining moment where it falls apart when she runs out of fuel and 100% gives up instead of doing what she can to survive. The main characters rival had a nice bit of character growth but he was the only one pushing for survival?

The entire army that you see is fucking trainees. Brand new soldiers. Children. Soldiers who've never fought before and are understandably traumatized. They don't even have a goal to focus on at that point besides "survive" which they can't do because they're out of fuel, and the fueling station is literally covered in titans with no way in. And that one girl was a shining moment of attempted suicide, not bravery or survival. She gave up and was leading all of her friends to their death because her pseudo-incestuous obsession had died.

Seriously, if you want to see what the -entire- army is like, look at the Female Titan arc, because that's where you get to see the actual army. And you know what you see when you see the actual army? No real angsting or crying, just people fighting and dying in an attempt to defeat their enemy. It's almost like having actual combat experience and exposure improves your ability to handle fighting giant monsters.

You keep assuming I never watched the show, I sat there entirely focused on it because I was insanely sick at the time and wrapped in a blanket and really had no option to do anything else but watch netflix. I marathon-ed it and I have a great memory for this kinda thing to boot...just not for names.

There've been much younger children soldiers in real life, fighting for their countries in very scary conditions.Yes it's not Titans but, literal children, gunfire, tanks, fires isn't exactly a ride down happy street.

13 months to get a soldier physically and mentally prepared for war, vs 3 years/36 months. I think they had time to train them for this, and they did. The writer just chose to make everyone react very similarly. Again, I'm not saying bumping chest badasses but you didn't see much variety in emotions, not everyone reacts to fear with cowering. Which was basically his theme for the show, hopelessness down to how the show was going to apparently end:

Spoiler

Everyone dies in the end

Which he changed his mind about, this is what I heard, so I wouldn't take it as fact.
Not everyone has to loudly vocalize their feelings with screams or just shaking in place, there are subtle ways of doing it.
Star Trek the captain was captured and was turned into a borg and forced to divulge all the secrets of the fleet and intel against his own fleet and destroy many ships and thousands of lives.
After all this they managed to save him, patch him up, get him control back and he was back to work in his ready room, what did he do? Cry? Panic?

He went to take a sip of his tea, stopped, stood up and looked out the window and all the emotion was conveyed without a single word. You got to see more later in the show, as well as a variety of character reactions from crazy situations.

Look, whatever, think what you want to. I don't like angst, I don't. I don't like helpess freakouts and if there's a reason for it? Sure but 3 years of training really set up for some kind of able fight, still could have been out of control or whatever but it didn't catch me. I did watch the female titan arch, which was more interesting. Doesn't change the large portion of the show I had mixed feelings about.

You're not going to change my mind, regardless of what you may think I did watch the show and I did like the show, the angst was too much though so overall I'd give it a pass if I was looking to view an anime again. Not bad but it wasn't this be all-end all show that my friends were making it out to me, who later agreed the angst was excessive but they still enjoyed it regardless. I'm not trying to convince you otherwise either, you're questioning my opinion on it and this is how I feel, so that's that really. Seriously if you like the show and felt all that angst was justified then super, that's awesome.
Thanks for chattin'

 

[Buidoirican]

I initially ignored this anime entirely when people started raving about it. It's my instinctual reaction to automatically shun what jumps to instant popularity with a few exceptions. That being said I ended up watching it randomly. I liked the initial premise up until episode 7( or somewhere around there. The first twist I guess ), and then I wasn't really impressed story wise afterwards.

Honestly, to me the story is nothing special which is probably why I'm not particularly interested in finishing it or seeing it through ( I did complete the first season though ). What I did like was the animation and some of the soundtrack. What kills it for me is the main character, pacing, story structure. There's a specific moment I remember where the writer is planning to crush an uplifting moment with surprises. The impending doom is pretty well telegraphed, but that's not what bothered me. What bothered me was the need to have the main character recall a statement from another character that precedes the massacre. I also can't help but feel that there's always an endless supply of nameless characters (a lot like Dynasty Warrior enemies) that are just there despite how often units get annihilated.

But yeah, meh to that anime.