Attraction explained: how to talk to women

JanatUrlich

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Oh God this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

And as a woman, I find it quite offensive.
 

Aerodyamic

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
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WARNING: Hortez the Champion of the Frozen Wastes is not liable for any injury, hurtful comment or slap to the face you may receive from listening to me. Hortez would like to remind you that if this doesn't work, it's not my fault, its yours.
So, you've obviously read 'The Game [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists]', or watched Styles' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Strauss] dvd.

I'd offer congratulations, but some of us figured this stuff out without a book, a dvd, or a 'pick-up artist bootcamp.

hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
aschere van she said:
Holy fuck.

Okay. If you spend this much time analising "relationships", and "how to talk to women", and you actually buy into this stuff, you are a sad, sad person, and you probably consider a brief mundane conversation with a "girl" to make your day. (E.X. You: Tuesdays Coming, did you bring your coat? Her: yes.)

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IN OTHER WORDS,
Wisdom from a normal, non socially crippled person who actually talks to people of the opposite gender:


People are not rational creatures. They are not computers, they do not operate by logical constraints, they are emotional, feeling above thinking. If you actually try to talk to someone by "the rules" or something, you're going to look like an idiot. If you analise people by these terrible generalizations, chances are you haven't actually been around many people.

How this pertains to this thread: If you want to embark on the momentous task of talking to one of those "women" that you've heard exist, act natural and when i say act natural, don't act, acting is a mistake. Don't think about it, just have a normal fucking conversation with them.
I am fully aware that the majority of people operate based on their feelings. What I am proposing is that their emotions have logical connections behind them.

Actually, everything you've highlighted reaches past the logical processes in a human brain, and MAY trigger an instinctive response of interest, but attraction is not inherently a logical process. I'm sure we could both cite a variety of examples where confidence has little or nothing to do with confidence or looks.

On a side note, if all a man was after was an attractive women, liquor wouldn't be relevant, because women that weren't deemed attractive enough would have been left unbred a lon time ago.
 

Nickolai77

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Well, this an interesting thread. As someone who carn't really talk to girls in such a manner to get dates with them i feel the OP is kind of directed at me.

I'm not going to dispute the finer points of the OP's post, because everyone has quite rightly done so already. Instead i question the general usefulness of posting, telling or publishing et al,these step-by-step guides to getting girlfriends.

Doing what the OP recommends comes naturally to some people, and not others, myself included. These are intrinsic personality traits, our own natures which don't really change. Introverted males arn't going to convincingly turn themselves into Casanova's for the night so they can get a girlfriend. It's like expecting a cat to behave like a dog, it simply doesn't happen.
 

BlackStar42

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FunkyBlubberBuddy said:
ITT: Guy who got one girl now thinks he can talk to girls, and still tries to overcompensate, but can't project his feelings of inadequacy onto people IRL since they are all better then him, so he comes to a website filled with underage nerds to make himself feel better.


Did that run on sentence pretty much hit the nail on the head?
Aye, I think that about did it.
 

Iron Mal

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The thing is that people don't follow strict guidelines or rules in terms of what they find attractive or not.

Just as there is no guarenteed pick-up line, there is no guarenteed technique to get people (women or otherwise) to like you.

In fact, by pigeon holing people and trying to follow a procedure (and in this way see the as more of a trophy than a person) you'll just earn resentment rather than love and adoration (do you like the idea of there being people out there researching ways to manipulate you for their sexual satisfaction?).
 

zehydra

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aschere van she said:
Holy fuck.

Okay. If you spend this much time analising "relationships", and "how to talk to women", and you actually buy into this stuff, you are a sad, sad person, and you probably consider a brief mundane conversation with a "girl" to make your day. (E.X. You: Tuesdays Coming, did you bring your coat?
Her: I'm feeling fat, And Sassy!
Me: Ooooowoooo
 

EeveeElectro

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I think if you want advice on how to talk to women, a woman should be the one giving the advice.
There's no universal code for men, and there isn't one for women. It's based on the individual in my opinion.
If I like a guy, I'll insult him (in a loving way...), I'll share a few jokes and see if he shares my sense of humour. Another girl might try to emphasise her best assets and constantly giggle at everything he says. I've never bothered with the advice of others when it comes to relationships and I've been in one for the past 15 months, just relax and let nature take it's course.
 

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aschere van she said:
smearyllama said:
Wall of text!
I don't care if this is off topic, because this is off topic discussion!
off topic discussion =/= spam the threads with random shit.
Maybe he wanted a smaller version of the text, and since it's a wall of text, "TEAR DOWN THIS WALL"!!! I think it's funny!
 

Aureli

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As one of the feminine persuasion, I have to say NO to the OP.
You know what happens when you try to play a girl like he suggests? They look at you, then go right back talking to their friends.
Yes, confidence is something that most girls find attractive, but do you know what's even better than that?
Having something in common with her.
 

Girl With One Eye

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Hiraeth said:
I'm a girl. You know the best way to talk to me? Talk to me. Seriously. If you see me somewhere, come over, say hi. It's not that hard. Why not assume women are people, instead of some kind of exotic animal that you need a specific strategy to hunt. It's just objectification of a different kind, and ultimately it might not actually work out that well for you, when you meet the girl of your dreams and she finds out that you were manipulating her from the start.

I also resent the implication that I'm not going to judge you based on appearance. If you come over and talk to me clean shaven, looking like you've showered recently, wearing clothes that look like they've been washed, and like you actually care about your physical appearance to some degree, you're going to elicit a much better response than the creepy, sweaty, smelly, bearded creature from the black lagoon trying to get in my pants. You can bet I'm judging him on more than his confidence.
Well said! Reading through your whole post and relating it to myself I didn't see anything that I really thought was true. And your whole signs of attraction thing...most of them could be signs of friendship too and not ZOMG she did all those things she must like me.
 

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Lizard Queen said:
Should I be worried that about half of his list of 'signs of attraction' could just be common courtesy?

Personally I would suggest treating us like human beings, not aliens or sex objects. Try getting to know a few of us. We're not that scary.
What she said.

I get pretty tired of males on this site starting threads about how to get us to be followed by another thread about how evil and shallow we are. Just like you, we want to be with someone who's company we enjoy. If I don't like one man's company, that doesn't mean I'm shallow or only interested in money/sex/power/X, it just means I didn't like him. Some of that reaction is logical and some is hormonal. Not every man I've liked has liked me back and I didn't consider them to be evil pussy-trolling dogs. Nope, just a guy who didn't fancy me. How about showing us the same courtesy?
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
MarcFirewing said:
RAKtheUndead said:
Because "myself" is a pretentious, pedantic, arrogant, lazy, selfish oaf with a short temper, an asymmetrical face and no discernible personality.
And "myself" is a arrogant, bastard, with an asshole attitude, cold hearted, lazy ass, harsh joking douchebag that somehow managed to get three relationships with all of them saying I'm perfect. But hey, weirdest shit happens xD
These are the two most important differences between us. My job is made more difficult by the fact that I look like a half-formed troll.
What you look like doesn't have anything to do with my comment nonetheless. I wouldn't judge and if anyone else judges than they're just idiots.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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I disagree.

For starters, teasing works.

And the best way to get a good relationship is to start up a good friendship with them, and forget about this 'friend zone' bullcrap. Relationships work on personalities, if it's status or looks (not saying they don't count at all) then 'UR DOIN IT RONG'. If you find yourself in this 'friend zone' myth thing it's probably because you didn't make yourself appear like you wanted a relationship or you had no confidence. Or, they just didn't like you enough to start a relationship with.

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Cyan. said:
If you women are all so complex and hard to understand, why can i easily manipulate you all, 100% of the time, with the same bullshit tricks?

People are animals. Meat computers. Nothing more. Brains work and respond in particular ways and respond to particular stimulus. Manipulating people is easy for those of us lucky enough to have an..... outside?.... perspective.

Yes, i am a self righteous, arrogant, falsley charming, manipulative and evil clinically diagnosed sociopath - But if you women are so awesome why havent you caught onto my tricks yet?

25 years and counting bitches.
Yeah... no.

I see why you make this crap up (read my earliest posts if you will), but no one's buying it.
 

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ColdStorage said:
Right, does anyone want to give me the skinny?.
"Man reads The Game, posts a synopsis on the internet" should just about cover it.

Actually, the first bit (about what attracts men and women) was pretty accurate in a Psychology 101 sort of way. As for the rest of it... *shrug*.