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Beefcakes

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Reaperman Wompa said:
Mostly a few fights between drunken idiots and people of a minority, almost always middle eastern. Sometimes there's only a drunken brawl at a local pub, sometimes the riot police are needed. This year is probably going to be the latter.
Really? Because by my count, its the 'drunken brawl's' turn, riots not last year, but the two before that, so there owed one.

I think Australia day is a grand day, I've never been involved, witnessed or been in the same city as any roughhousing as a direct result of Australia Day.
Yeah lots of drunk people, but since when has that been a crime?
Everyone here is focusing on all the bad point, which makes Australia Day look bad.
Anything looks bad when you focus on the bad point of view.
Look on the positives!
We are celebrating the anniversary of (in my opinion) one of the greatest nations on Earth
We are celebrating being able to survive on what should be the most inhospitable countries on the planet
We are celebrating everything Aussie, from drinking beer to swearing, to more drinking. Oh yeah and all that other stuff Aussie to...
Were celebrating 45 degree heat, -15 degree colds, raging fires and damaging storms! All occurring in the same day!
Were are celebrating who we are, where we are from, and what we stand for
Australia isn't just a place in the middle of a few oceans, we are celebrating the soil we stand on, the water we drink, the meat we eat, the children we teach, the wars we battled in the the people who died for our great nation!
Because I am
Because you are
Because we are Australian!
 

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Their is nothing wrong with acting like a drunken bogan on Australia day, its just getting in touch with your true Australian roots; we where settled by convicts you know.

But seriously; I'll have a BBQ and invite around my close mates, well play loud music, play PS3, and swear a lot while engaging in conversations that make the ears of tender children withdraw into their craniums. So, in short, it'll be the same as any other weekend.
 

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delta4062 said:
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Jinx_Dragon said:
Personally I still want to beat the idiots who are calling for the removal of Anzac day as a holiday.
I'll join you in the beating. ANZAC day is way more important than Christmas and Easter.
exactly ANZAC means alot more to me since my grandfather fought and got the victoria cross in WWI....i hope to make him proud one day
Yeah I had an great uncle who was an infantryman in WW1, his hand got badly damaged so he became a stretcher bearer. He was killed early 1918. Its an important day to remember those who fought in WW1 and all soldier who've fought to defend this nation.

I have a grandfather who served in New Guinea. Two of my best mates are trained infantry men in the ADF.

Those who say we have no national identity need to look at WW1 (and later wars) and that will prove them wrong.

vid20 said:
Their is nothing wrong with acting like a drunken bogan on Australia day, its just getting in touch with your true Australian roots; we where settled by convicts you know.
The convicts thing annoys me though when non Australians bring it up. When you consider that stealing more then a certain amount (hypothetically 3pounds) was considered a hanging offense in England, along with crimes like assault and robbery. Those who were sent to Australia, barely did anything but be poor and steal a pittance.

The jokes on England too, we got the Motherf**King beaches! WOOH!
 

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Australia Day is on the 26th of January and celebrates the day when the First Fleet of convicts and settlers arrived from Britain to colonise Australia. The day is meant to be about being proud to be Australian (though for many of us its just a long weekend to chill out at home, maybe have some friends over for lunch or whatever). This is fine.

The problem starts when the thoughts turn from "We are proud to be Australian" to " Australia is the best nation on Earth" to "All non-Australians, especially those living here from overseas are sellouts and not worthy." So we end up with self- righteous egos and alcohol- fuelled racism fringe who go and mess up the way everyone else in the world sees the majority of innocent Australians. These drunk hooligans (for much, much want of a better word that didn't come from the 70s) go around tearing into people who they don't think are 'real Australians' and all that. They think their racism is patriotic.. which it definitely isn't.

As an Australian it's very ironic to hear the whole talk of Australia being multicultural and accepting when all it takes is a slab of beer to clear away much of the thin social veneer that reveals many closed minds.

I don't have any problems with the holiday itself or the event it commemorates or this country (I really can't think of anywhere better to live except maybe New Zealand). My problem is with people who take other people down a peg just because they aren't fully white and don't fit the perfect Aussie stereotype.

delta4062 said:
but i hate most aussie for the racist pricks they are
I wouldn't say 'most' aussies are racist, just 'a loud minority'. There's alot of good people around the place. The minority is what messes our our social appearance.
 

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I get quite ashamed of these 'bogans' popping up all over the place. They dont shave, they're offensive. I'm proud-ish to be Australian, but I dont believe the best way to celebrate my country is to drink myself stupid. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm weird..
 

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The convicts thing annoys me though when non Australians bring it up. When you consider that stealing more then a certain amount (hypothetically 3pounds) was considered a hanging offense in England, along with crimes like assault and robbery. Those who were sent to Australia, barely did anything but be poor and steal a pittance.

The jokes on England too, we got the Motherf**King beaches! WOOH!
I had an ancestor who came on the first fleet, she got done for stealing some lace. A bit severe in my opinion.
 

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BrynThomas said:
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I honestly think "Aussies" takes the patriotism too far because they don't have a such a rich heritage, other than the aborigines of course. So to justify their Australian existence they have to take things to the extreme, they don't know what makes them who they are and their affiliation to their country.
Thats a little harsh. We're overly patriotic because we're awesome.

Actually you try living in a land that is majority desert or jungle, is a quarter mile from the sun, has the most poisonous everything, spider, snake, jelly fish etc and is desperately running out of water.

But instead of the nervous wrecks you'd expect we're amazingly sanguine and this shines through on our national holidays. Sometimes way too much when you throw in too much alcohol...

Also yes Australia is a small and young nation, but we do know who we are. We paid for our national identity with sons and daughters in two worlds wars.

Edit: I understand the hypocrisy in being King of Australia and a republican.
What I meant by "Aussies" are naive tools that claim their prejudices to be "patriotic values". I do live here and there is nothing I'd rather do than chill out with a Little Creatures and a BBQ but the tools tend to spoil the afterglow of the celebrations.

Cahlee said:
I get quite ashamed of these 'bogans' popping up all over the place. They dont shave, they're offensive. I'm proud-ish to be Australian, but I dont believe the best way to celebrate my country is to drink myself stupid. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm weird..
Couldn't agree more. Its good to have a drink but no need to go overboard.

Hey Joe said:
P.S- Anybody try those Lamington muffins from Muffin Break? They're the shit!
Say what?! I have never heard of such delights. Think I might go hunting next week.
 

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I don't like lamb
OI Australia NO!, first the pavlova now lamb!....that is clearly New Zealand. stop it thats a bad Australia ... or Austraia as you guys pronounce it.. there is an 'L' in Australia you guys realize this right?!..... (just kidding) :p (Im a kiwi)
 

Beefcakes

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spyrewolf said:
I don't like lamb
OI Australia NO!, first the pavlova now lamb!....that is clearly New Zealand. stop it thats a bad Australia ... or Austraia as you guys pronounce it.. there is an 'L' in Australia you guys realize this right?! (just kidding) :p (Im a kiwi)
Its more of a 'Strayia than an Australia, the way I see it
 

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Beefcakes said:
We are celebrating the anniversary of (in my opinion) one of the greatest nations on Earth
We are celebrating being able to survive on what should be the most inhospitable countries on the planet
Only one of? We have a rare combination of freedom and safety, and we don't achieve it by having the general public walking around armed.

Oh, and we have the hottest women (and that is why I love living in a multicultural hub)
 

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BlueMage said:
Beefcakes said:
We are celebrating the anniversary of (in my opinion) one of the greatest nations on Earth
We are celebrating being able to survive on what should be the most inhospitable countries on the planet
Only one of? We have a rare combination of freedom and safety, and we don't achieve it by having the general public walking around armed.
That's what the dropbears are for! Who needs a gun when you've got a feral Koala about to fall from the sky!

I love Australia. Simply for the fact that we have one of the largest populations of dangerous animals on the planet and we eat most of them anyway! Crocodile? Surrre! Snake? Throw it on the barbie! Kangaroo? OMG delicious! (Btw, a Kangaroo can kill a man. It's dangerous)
 

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Yeah I had an great uncle who was an infantryman in WW1, his hand got badly damaged so he became a stretcher bearer. He was killed early 1918. Its an important day to remember those who fought in WW1 and all soldier who've fought to defend this nation.

I have a grandfather who served in New Guinea. Two of my best mates are trained infantry men in the ADF.

Those who say we have no national identity need to look at WW1 (and later wars) and that will prove them wrong.
I have a uncle named Bryan Thomas... lives in Townsville but never mind. Yeah in WW1 we got our arses kicked thanks to 'British Intelligence' and a British commander I want to resurrect from the hell he surely is in to have the pleasure of sending him back down there. Yet even in that long gruelling 11 month stalemate we carved out a name for ourselves: 'Diggers!' It saddens me that many people don't even know why we got that name, what it represents and how strongly it speaks to our characteristics as a people.

For those who don't know it was the Turks that gave us that name, our enemies at the time. They respected our ability to defend whatever little chunk of dirt we managed to claim from them, even if it was just a single pine tree standing on top of a hill. Repeatability since then, in wars I both agree where moral and don't, Australian troops have lived up to that name.

You do NOT attack the Australian military head on when they have even a slight chance to dig in, you just do not!

The convicts thing annoys me though when non Australians bring it up. When you consider that stealing more then a certain amount (hypothetically 3pounds) was considered a hanging offense in England, along with crimes like assault and robbery. Those who were sent to Australia, barely did anything but be poor and steal a pittance.

The jokes on England too, we got the Motherf**King beaches! WOOH!
It annoys me too. First off I love to point out that slavery was ending during the period of our colonisation, indeed before Byron Bay even became large enough to even be considered a town slavery was outlawed. So then how would 'mother England' get a large enough work force it could force into a unforgiving lands to work for free? It rounded up all the vagrants it could and shipped them over here. It made 'indentured servitude' a punishment for any crime not serious enough to justify state sponsored murder and shipped the people over here as slaves. Not being rich enough to pay outlandish taxes was a favourite at the time.

That is why I can never look at the term indentured servitude without seeing it for what it really is: Slavery.

Then we found gold. At that point everyone flocked into Australia as fast as the boats could carry them. Quickly Australia rate of 'convicts' to pioneers changed dramatically. So even if the 'settled by convicts' claim was accurate it would be very hard to find a person who can trace their ancestry back to a convict. I can't trace mine back to convicts but to welsh pioneers.
 

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zen5887 said:
I'm an hour north of Brisbane - Queensland is far from the smart state!
Sing it!

Australia day, tomorrow. It'll be odd spending it another country, but I think this will be the first time I ever felt towards it. Being away from home, with the girl you love. I'm planning to eat pudding, pie and chocolates. Not very Australian, but I'm not doing really anything Australian-ish tomorrow.
 

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Wow, with all the talk of patriotism, racism, and brawling, you could exchange "Aussie" with "American" and "lamb" with "pork" and this could be an "America Day" discussion!

Seriously though, I hate to be a pot calling the kettle black, but you folk got some racism issues. I was only there for three weeks and it blew my mind. But, it was an awesome three weeks, so thanks. Oh, and before you start, yeah, the U.S. is way fucked morally, so I have no room to judge you guys...enjoy your holiday!
 

Beefcakes

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PurpleRain said:
Australia day, tomorrow. It'll be odd spending it another country, but I think this will be the first time I ever felt towards it. Being away from home, with the girl you love. I'm planning to eat pudding, pie and chocolates. Not very Australian, but I'm not doing really anything Australian-ish tomorrow.
You aren't doing anything Australian? On Australia Day?
Even non-Australians should be doing something (someone? o_O) the most Australian Day of the year. Hell, even if its just swearing lots, whilst slightly intoxicated.
Go on, have a ball, be the Australian you were born to be.
 

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Beefcakes said:
PurpleRain said:
Australia day, tomorrow. It'll be odd spending it another country, but I think this will be the first time I ever felt towards it. Being away from home, with the girl you love. I'm planning to eat pudding, pie and chocolates. Not very Australian, but I'm not doing really anything Australian-ish tomorrow.
You aren't doing anything Australian? On Australia Day?
Even non-Australians should be doing something (someone? o_O) the most Australian Day of the year. Hell, even if its just swearing lots, whilst slightly intoxicated.
Go on, have a ball, be the Australian you were born to be.
But it's cold outside and I'm depressed to leave Canada. I guess that makes me less of an Australian, or am I just cheating?