Australian Police Commissioner Blames Games for Knife Violence

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No Triple A game supports rape. Anytime the issue of rape comes up, gamers flock to make a point out of how angry they are - making the topic taboo. For all the touting people do about videogames as a narrative based medium, we seem to have this shell no one wants to break - and rape is certainly not one of those topics.

Now, when you delve into Flash, internet, or foreign games (especially those hentai games), you do see rape featured there. These games often lack the audience or the investment to mechanics to actually hold any water in the arguement at large.

As for killing - eh. In order to get to a state where murder is acceptable, a person has to have a degraded moral compass and be pretty significantly emotionally damaged. Not only does murder violate almost every cultures moral code, it also violates the basic rules of nature. And often the final straw to push them over the edge can be anything - video games included. And I don't think videogames carry the weight to degrade a person to the point where murder is acceptable. It might be a catalyst, but certainly not the main reason. The problem with proving or disproving this is that you're dealing with people who don't see reason. Interviewing will not really yield the results of their psychosis. And its impossible to state with certainty that videogames have never been the key source of someones bloodlust - there are thousands of people suffering from psychosis and thousands of possible triggers. I'd be willing to wager though that if you removed videogames from the equation that something would still trigger them to commit these crimes. Its all hypotheticals and 'what ifs' at this point, and I don't think it will get any better.

Unfortunately, these are all parts of life. People are going to stab, shoot, steal, rape and murder for whatever reason they see fit. Most of us won't, but theres no stopping people who are deadset on committing crimes. Its disgusting, and it shouldn't be part of the world, but the grim reality is that it is.
 
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So how many of you actually had to read the article?

Let's all do the 'Videogames Cause Violence' Hoedown!

A prominent politician thinks that videogames are bad
When children play them all day long it makes him really mad
There's no scientific theory that could prove him right
But we have to listen because he is old and white!

 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Yeah, because murder and rape didn't exist before video games.

Does anyone else think it's ridiculous that someone who lives in Australia (just remember the history of the "great" Australian nation) is trying to tell people where violence comes from?
 

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Lizardon said:
JokerboyJordan said:
http://mlkshk.com/r/GO27

I'm actually more surprised that people were so quick to jump on his comment/defend videogames, at least experts anyway. Probably not something you'd see in America.
Actually, one of the experts was an American.
Dr. Christopher Fergusson, Associate Professor of Psychology and Communication at the University of Texas
I find it interesting that he is singling out knife crimes in particular, instead of just attributing violence in general to video games. What was the last game that was centred around using a knife? Sure they are in lots of games, but they aren't a major feature.
I dont know about gun laws over there but knives are quite easy to obtain which could make them a weapon of choice for youths. Since people connect games to youth it would make 'sense' to connect games with knife crime.
 

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You know what? I'm going to let the always wise Karl Pilkington respond to this on my behalf.
Over to you Karl.

 

GameMaNiAC

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I stopped reading at 'Australia'.

I really don't take them seriously about gaming anymore. Except Yahtzee.
 

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Gearhead mk2 said:
An old, oversensitive fart is blaming them veidjya gayme thingamajigs for all the worlds problems.
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I'm sorry, but how is this even news anymore?
Slow news week, I reckon. And by the way, do you think "old, oversensitive fart" is really the way to kick off a civilized discussion?
 

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Of for the love of...is anyone keeping track of all of the things that video games have apparently caused?
 

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Whilst this guy probably won't be taken seriously it wounds me to see that people in positions of such authority still find it necessary to demonise games in such a way. I dread to think just how far we've been held back as a medium because of bullshit like this. :(
 

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Oh great. We've got another Michael Atkinson on our hands. I was so happy when that worthless piece of shit resigned, I really hope we don't end up with a similar situation because of this dipshit.

Captcha: Public good. Seems appropriate somehow...
 

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cidbahamut said:
...and before video games it was television, and before television it was comic books, and before comic books it was rock and roll, etc etc.
Before comics... it was Rock 'n' Roll? I think you may need to rethink your timeline there...
 

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I find it interesting that he only lists "raping women" as a problem. Because raping men is AWRIIITE.

Really though, I think everyone is aware of the whole "video games promote bad things!!" argument. This is old news.
 

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It's all fun and games until something gets banned. See comics books in the 50s. Heck, see videogames today in...Australia.

Point being, yeah, the guy is a twit. We know he doesn't know what he's talking about. But the thing that bugs me, the thing I don't have an answer for, is: how do we keep the twit brains from messing with our toys?

I honestly don't have an answer. I do know that here, we're just preaching to the choir when we say "Erm, what? How is a videogame with guys stabbing each other different than pretty much all action literature dating back to the Iliad?" I mean, you didn't see the Angles and Saxons all stabbing each other because of Beowulf, did you? No. They stabbed each other for the lulz, mostly. But they sure as heck didn't need videogames to make them do it.

But how do we get that message across the the greater public?
 

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Terramax said:
teqrevisited said:
He's right.

Only last week I woke up one morning and decided to go on a vicious killing spree armed with a 4 foot long purple sex toy and whilst dressed as a pink cartoon cat wearing a cape.
Well, we've all been there before.
Oh yeah, that's pretty much the initiation rite for joining the dark league of gamers.
 

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Ha, if the police thinks video games are causing youth violence, then they must not watch T.V. In Australia there is a channel called 9 which runs a popular series called underbelly, which glorifies the criminal element in Australian society. 9 noticed how many viewers this received and has changed up most its line up to be about criminal going's on and what not.

My partner worked in house for troubled teens (drugs, violent crime mental problems), and they tuned in to channel 9 every night saying "Miss, it makes what we do cool!".

Huh...
 

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Ah Scipione's up to his old tricks! He's responsible for 2am pub lockouts, and was trying to raise the legal drinking age.

What he fails to realise is that stabbings are majority caused by bored social degenerates from the Western Suburbs...not necessarily gamers.

They like stabbing people because their parents and friends also like stabbing people. Vicious cycle!

Iconoclast said:
Ha, if the police thinks video games are causing youth violence, then they must not watch T.V. In Australia there is a channel called 9 which runs a popular series called underbelly, which glorifies the criminal element in Australian society. 9 noticed how many viewers this received and has changed up most its line up to be about criminal going's on and what not.

My partner worked in house for troubled teens (drugs, violent crime mental problems), and they tuned in to channel 9 every night saying "Miss, it makes what we do cool!".

Huh...
Exactly this!