Awesome PC Gamer article on Dust 514.

Korten12

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From PCGamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/08/e3-2011-what-could-dust-514-mean-for-eve-onlines-pc-gamers/

I have to admit I was a little hesitant about how much CCP would have to talk about the PC-side of EVE Online at my E3 appointment. Their big news at the show is the launch of their big PS3-exclusive shooter, which ties into the EVE Online universe, Dust 514.

So when I sat down with a group of devs from CCP, including Senior Technical Director Torfi Frans Olafsson, Producer Thomas Farrer, and CTO Halldor Fannar, I didn?t expect a lot of convincing answers ? but what I found was a pack of contemplative, exciting developers dedicated to the classic EVE Online PC experience.

Dust isn?t just a console game, it?s changing how EVE Online players will interact with each other in the universe in a major way. Dust players will share the same chat channels, will be able to join the same corporations and be involved in the same rivalry and backstabbing shenigans that grabs gaming headline news every month or so. The update will obvisouly change how soverignty works over planets and over systems. Dust players will be able to duke it out on the ground to help corporations resolve their rivalries over owning a specific planet. PC players won?t be micromanaging their console shooter counterparts, but they will be able to buy mercenaries at top dollar, or train their own ground troops within their corporation to control their planets on the ground.

Farrer told me that while playing EVE Online on the server where DUST was being tested, he saw some activity on a planet as he was flying by it in space. He got close to the planet and looked close, and he see the combat raging below, and got a sudden message in his chat box: ?Hello!? It was the Dust player on the surface of the planet who had seen his ship above him in the sky and sent a message of greeting. Let me state that in simple terms: a PC EVE Online player flying a space ship could see and communicate with a PS3 player shooting on the ground of the planet.

But PC players won?t be sitting idly by as the grunts on the ground duke it out for control. Spaceships will be able to bombard the battlefield from orbit, but they?ll have to duke it out with the other ships that will be looking to bombard from orbit as well. But the ground grunts don?t have to take it lying down. They?ll be able to fire back at orbitting ships with massive anti-ship turrets on the battlefield. EVE players already have some amazingly epic-sized space battles (in the past, they broke the servers when they had over 15,000 player-controlled ships in one sector fighting)?I can only imagine how much more exciting and massive they?ll be when they?re happening in tandem with a ground assault on multiple planets? surfaces in the region.

It?ll be tempting for EVE players to feel like they?ve been cheated out of an expansion because of Dust?s PS3-exclusivity (at least for now), but they shouldn?t. There?s a whole lot to look forward to as an EVE Online player, with expanding corporations, increasingly complex economic and military battlefields evolving for you to duke it out over supremacy. Plus, if all else fails, you can just try a classic EVE move: bribe the enemy?s ground mercenaries into throwing their match in your favor!

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Omg... This just sounds better and better, if this works. It will be AMAZING! :D
 

gardyna

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I completly agree this level of interaction between platforms is (at least as far as I know) unheard of.

I've talked to one of the guys programing Dust (it's good to be Icelandic sometimes) and he said that the level of interraction between EVE and Dust will go even deeper than that (voice chat and player charaters meeting up in space stations are a few ideas he was working on but couldn't say weather they would be in the game)
 

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...That sounds awesome.

If I understood correctly - PS3 players will be thugs for hire?
 

Ainsley Bartlett

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This really is intriguing. I'm still not sure, but my interest is definitely piqued. I shall be keeping an eye on this one!
 

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You know you're gonna get screwed out of buying some good player who gets DC'd or something. I wonder if that will factor into his cost (how many times he goes AFK/DC's).
 

Korten12

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Giantpanda602 said:
You know you're gonna get screwed out of buying some good player who gets DC'd or something. I wonder if that will factor into his cost (how many times he goes AFK/DC's).
They probably won't pay them. D:
 

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I'm excited for Dust 514. SO VERY EXCITED!

I just wish more information was available on it...but then, it was just recently announced...

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw

That video makes me feel like I would always pick the wrong person to work for. Every. Single. TIME.
 

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Very nice but I still don't see why I can't play the soldier's perspective on my PC.

I have a PS3 but I much much prefer to play with a mouse and keyboard in 1080p resolution (for longer vision, finer aim, etc). Not to mention how my confidence has been shaken in PSN.

I also have really gone off the PS3 controller, the sticks I have found too loose and the shoulder buttons too stodgy in comparison to Xbox 360 controller.
 

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I also don't understand why there isn't a PC version in the works. It'd kind of make more sense in the whole "It's a part of the EVE online experience" picture. Now if an EVE player also wants to help out with the ground effort he has no choice but to go out and buy a PS3.
 

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Pedro The Hutt said:
I also don't understand why there isn't a PC version in the works. It'd kind of make more sense in the whole "It's a part of the EVE online experience" picture. Now if an EVE player also wants to help out with the ground effort he has no choice but to go out and buy a PS3.
Simple reason. CCP wants to expand, they already control a market share of PC, now they expand to PS3. And if they made the game for both the consoles and pc, it wouldn't be fair, mouse is way more precise.
 

Pedro The Hutt

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By that logic their move makes even less sense, I'm pretty sure there's a bigger market for FPS gamers on the PC than on the PS3.
 

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I love CCP's style so much. They've managed to make a 99.999% player driven MMO with a vibrant and dynamic economy, corporate saboutage, player versus player battles on a ridiculous scale, the best character creation technology (for shaping a player model) I've ever seen. I am really hoping Dust 514 actually succeeds at integrating with EVE Online.

I'm curious as to how representative this orbital bombardment is going to be, if it's just going to be a sporadic airstrike or actually based on the firepower given by EVE players. If it's the latter woe betide those who go against IT alliance and the NC.
 

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Korten12 said:
Giantpanda602 said:
You know you're gonna get screwed out of buying some good player who gets DC'd or something. I wonder if that will factor into his cost (how many times he goes AFK/DC's).
They probably won't pay them. D:
They should at least get a consolation gift.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR3MI4m6Pjf-6mRFnlvMwyYqSN_jUL6IC6I3qtIpgTfh52R8-j&t=1
 

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ThisIsSnake said:
Korten12 said:
Giantpanda602 said:
You know you're gonna get screwed out of buying some good player who gets DC'd or something. I wonder if that will factor into his cost (how many times he goes AFK/DC's).
They probably won't pay them. D:
They should at least get a consolation gift.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR3MI4m6Pjf-6mRFnlvMwyYqSN_jUL6IC6I3qtIpgTfh52R8-j&t=1
They risk their lives for a bit of booty dancing. I'd say that is sufficent reinbursement.
 

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I, for one, will be proud to serve as a hired thug for the great EVE overlords. Initially, of course. Only until I take command of an AA gun (Or an Anti Low Orbit gun, I guess. ALO). Then, you'll see. I'll defend whatever the current planet is from all airborne targets.
 

Pedro The Hutt

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Considering some of the ships are several kilometres in size I think you'll need more than just a gun. =p
 

Ruairi iliffe

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joshuaayt said:
I, for one, will be proud to serve as a hired thug for the great EVE overlords. Initially, of course. Only until I take command of an AA gun (Or an Anti Low Orbit gun, I guess. ALO). Then, you'll see. I'll defend whatever the current planet is from all airborne targets.
That is, until said 'Overlords' proceed to send wave after wave of cheap thugs your way ;P

'Fleet does the flying, infantry does the dying'
 

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sounds very interesting be cool if the PS3 players decided they want one planet to themselves and joined forces to kill any spaceships that show up, i wonder how the PS3 players will move about as well will they have to be transported e.g. if one faction wants to attack anothers planet or base or what ever will they have to transport their own goons or will the goons be able to get there on their own?
 

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I wonder if EVE online players will be able to run logistics with ground forces. It would be pretty cool having an eye in the sky to guide you.