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wynnsora

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I feel like I deserve to say that, even at the age of 17. Namely when I look at D&D. My parents played D&D, they played AD&D to be precise, so I played it too. As I've gotten older it's what I've come to know and love, but last year, something weird happened. I got together with my boyfriend and I made a comment about how Arlington must be full of Paladin's and Cleric's for their water. He began to laugh and went, "D&D much?" and I was like, "Yeah! I've grown up with it." "Oh! Really? Awesome! I only began to play about 2 years ago. It's really fun." "Yeah it is." "What's your favorite class? I like to play a Dread Necromancer myself..." "... What's a dread necromancer?" "What do you mean? You said you play D&D." "Yeah... and in my D&D we didn't have dread necromancer's."

That's when I met D&D 3.5, and I have to ask you the D&D playing escapists, why? Why do we need all those skills? Why do we need feats? Why do we need so many classes and especially prestige classes? And why did they make a 4th edition?



I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to figure out why people seem to like it so much. So please, explain away.
 

SantoUno

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Just like most games, new content will be added to keep its popularity and fresheness going.

Would the Yugioh TCG have gotten any more popular if they stopped making new cards?
 

Zacharine

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As a person who swears in the name of D&D 3.5, I'll have this to say:

AD&D was a more simplistic approach to D&D, with more complicated basic mechanics (THAC0 for example). That is to say, the basic mechanics were more complicated, while the overall approach allowed for lesser variety. The Feat-system I feel is an excellent addition that allows for a more customiasable character and the Skill-system allows for a great variety of situations to be handled in a simplified manner: Want to do craft a basic healing potion? Throw Alchemy skill check, DC 15. Wish to analyze protective magics around an object you're tasked to retrieve? Throw for Spellcraft, DC 35. Want to try and see a weak spot in enemy armor? Throw for Spot, DC 25. Wish to track that wild beast that sauntered through your camp last night? Check Tracking, DC 15. And so on. An easy approach that can be quickly learned and quick to check for: the GM sets the Difficulty Check, you attempt to reach that number of greater by a simple formula of D20+Skill+Skill modifier from abilities and items. Succeed, well done you achieve what you set out to do. Don't succeed, you failed/got the wrong result/followed a false trail/potion does nothing. It also represents the cross-skill nature of all races: not all wizards are poor trackers, not all fighters are unaware of the art of haggling, not all thieves are ignorant in the art of identifying spells from somatic components alone.

The feats add another dimension to this. Playing a mage that was a village alchemist for a in his youth? 'purchase' the 'Skill Focus: Craft Alchemy' feat. A soldier trained to act as a scout? Get the 'Weapon Focus: Short Bow' and 'Skill Focus: Tracking' feats. The feats can represent a minor increase to skills, to a major specialization in the method the character/NPC does their stuff.

The prestige classes can muddle the waters somewhat, there are so many of them thanks to the huge amount of sourcebooks. But they are a more codified manner that represents a significant long-term commitments to a certain branch of methodology within their 'main' classes. Take the Assasin for example. A thief, who has taken an interest in assasinations. Gives up certain benefits from the standard Thief-class, in order to gain more specialized skills and approach, representing the methodological focus of the thief to switch focus from overall shadow-skulking to actual hunting down targets and putting a knife between their ribs or poisoning their food. Their added skills and feats change to represent this at level-ups. And yet, not everyone can become an assasin, there are requirements for taking this prestige class. These represent the minimum ability of the character to make their living (even if only potentially) by this character class and understand and learn the nuances of the prestige class.

Overall, the system allows for a ner unprecedented amount of flexibility and role-playing options, with a system that is at its core simple and quick to learn. The problem is, taht the GM must be aware of the staggering potential and limit it accordingly to their games. Such as they may even degree that no prestige classes are allowed at all, or that some of the more exotic choices for feats and prestige classes are removed.
 

Kuchinawa212

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I hate power creep. So you need the new stuff to get the latest bestest stuff. So they make you buy new stuff and forget the old stuff because they forget about it
 

Baralak

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I couldn't get into 2e AD&D, I could never get around ThAC0... But yeah, I started with 3.5 and love it, but my love renewed itself all over again once I looked at 4e. Simplified skills, and yet so many things that encouraged roleplaying over rollplaying!
 

Hiphophippo

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Let me be the first to say it. Don't play 4th edition. For that matter don't play 3.5

Play Pathfinder

It's a separate game by Paizo that might as well be dnd 3.75. It's my personal opinion that Pathfinder is the ultimate expression of dnd. I honestly couldn't figure out how I'd gotten by for so many years without it.