Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List

Darth Sea Bass

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Must be honest here, thought it was David Cameron's lot and started to panic.
Yeah that was my initial reaction. Give em time though and they'll no doubt move on it!
 

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How cute, a crazy old lady who claims that women should only be pleasing their man, buying food, and making food forgot that by saying anything at all in a public forum outside of the local womans club is going against that! Shes an old ass batshit insane bible thumper who like all of those type of people, are hypocrites. Dont bother putting any stock at all into what she says, sometimes they just go senile.
 

michiehoward

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Here's a resolution for parents worldwide

I will not allow or pay for video games for my child that still reside in the home, if I deem it to mature, violent ect ect. I won't allow the gov't, any gov't to decide how I should raise my own child. If I have a problem, moral or otherwise about the games my child plays I will speak with said child, to discern their level of maturity and intellect to know that my child knows what is make believe and what is real life.
 

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AlternatePFG said:
danpascooch said:
kikon9 said:
danpascooch said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
These kids didn't go out and buy the games themselves. They MIGHT have bought the headset with the $50 allowance their spoiled little brat ass gets every week, but they didn't buy the game himself.
Headset but not the game..?

What the hell are you talking about, lol
Technically, they can't buy the game if it's rated M. They need their parent to buy it or at least have their parent with them in order to buy it, and given how spoiled some kids are today, it's probably the former.
Sure they can, it's entirely legal for kids to buy M rated games (In USA anyway) it's Gamestop's store policy (that they only enforce sporadically) that stops them, and even then it only stops them if they choose to buy the game AT GAMESTOP.
Actually in Illinois at least, you have to be 17 or older to buy M-rated games. Stores that don't enforce this policy can be fined.
seriously? I'm gonna need to see a link or something
 

monkey_man

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I say, there are tiny numbers on the gameboxes. They aren't on there for no reason, silly woman!

See those Numbers? the 1 and the 8?[yelling] THAT MEANS CHILDREN SHOULDN'T BUY IT! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR 18 (+) YEAR OLDS[/.yelling]. damage [if any] done to those poor children is their own fault. Or at least their parents, who have been {tricked/talked} into buying these 18+ games by their offspring.
hooray for brackets!
 

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danpascooch said:
seriously? I'm gonna need to see a link or something
Quick Google search shows me that it was quickly overturned after it was created but I could swear that they still enforce it. *shrug*
 

Danpascooch

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AlternatePFG said:
danpascooch said:
seriously? I'm gonna need to see a link or something
Quick Google search shows me that it was quickly overturned after it was created but I could swear that they still enforce it. *shrug*
It's probably that the store's are just really careful to not sell M rated games to minors because it goes against store policy.

I salute you for actually doing the search, Good to know.
 

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These are not real conservatives.
A real conservative would never stop someone from playing video games.
They believe in liberities. A libral or left wing nation would ban violent video games.
 

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I know this is a little off-topic (so don't call me out on it) but I always find it somewhat amusing that a lot of America is still obssessed with "protecting the children" like bubble-wrapping them will make them better people, blind to the horrors their governments in future will perpertrate because they're so docile they don't want to know and will unquestioningly obey and...

Oh fuck they're coming for me, spread the word Escapist, the NWO has taken over!

/shitty humour.
 

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danpascooch said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
These kids didn't go out and buy the games themselves. They MIGHT have bought the headset with the $50 allowance their spoiled little brat ass gets every week, but they didn't buy the game himself.
Headset but not the game..?

What the hell are you talking about, lol
He means that what few things the kids buy are small and inexpensive. The parents know the kid is playing a violent video-game.
 

Flac00

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albania614 said:
These are not real conservatives.
A real conservative would never stop someone from playing video games.
They believe in liberities. A libral or left wing nation would ban violent video games.
I don't think that is entirely correct. The dislike of video-games is shared by all crazy people, right or left.
 

Caiti Voltaire

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manythings said:
It doesn't say "Tops the conservative party's to do list", it says "Tops Conservative's to do list". The apostrophy in "Conservative's" indicates possession of an individual which is not the same as "Conservatives". If you plan on complaining about language use learn some first.
You know, that kind of furious nit-picking kind of rationalisation comes up every time that people use loaded language, and I think it's just a pile of ... something. We're not saying "Person X thinks we should ban violent video games" which would be fair and unbiased. We're saying "Conservative wants to ban violent games" which unfairly associates a fringe extremist with a mainstream political movement. It's biased. I wish people would quit it.
 

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The title was a little mislead
Assassin Xaero said:
Oh, it's just for selling them to children younger than 17. I have no problem with that... I thought they were going to ban violence is games all together. If they try that, I'm going after them asking why shit like SAW would be legal to make as a movie, but no violent games?

The title was a little misleading, wasn't it? She's not actually talking about "Banning violent games", she's talking about age restrictions. That's not nearly as bad but, in my opinion, is still a serious problem.
If you say that young children should not be allowed to have access to games like GTA or movies like Saw, then you are absolutely right. The big question is: who should be doing the "not allowing". I think it's a tremendous mistake to be the putting something like that on the government. Bureaucrats are neither equipped nor inclined to do any sort of responsible policing of consumer content, and putting them in that role can only result in serious abuses. The role of parents should still be played by parents.
 

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I never really understood the doublethink mentality of folks like that, who use the Conservative moniker and demand less government intervention!!--except where we want it to intervene, obviously.

And yeah. Anti-feminist? Wow.
 

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Lyri said:
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Learn the basics of the American justice system before commenting in such a manner mate. Had tons of these posts during the Schwarzenegger vs EMA debate as well, really, research a bit before you post.
Why don't you enlighten whilst you post, "Research the American Justice system" is a pretty broad answer to give so vaguely.
He's also entitled to his opinion, you just posted "L2Readnoob".

OT: So really what is this big deal?
Don't you guys have the PEGI ratings on your video games anyway? It just means they're enforcing what they should be doing anyway, surely?
Infact reading it makes it look like a no change, "Without parents consent", so essentially all they're saying is
"You can't buy the lastest Blood and Gore 2: More gore unless your parents say so".

Ok?
How is that bad?
Didn't say it in a l2readnoob sort of way, it's literally the BASICS, just go on wikipedia and look up the First Amendment. It's also been explained so many times over the course of the Schwarzenegger vs EMA debate that really, if you don't know what I mean, go check out the related episode from Extra Credits/Zero Punctuation on the subject (though Yahtzee was mostly talking about a counter-organization, but you can still find what you need in the comments) or read the Battlefield Washington article by Greg Tito.

To give you the skinny, it's basically:
1. First Amendment protects free speech
2. Art and related mediums (books, movies etc.) are therefore protected by it
3. To pass a law that would allow a government to regulate (what's already being regulated remarkably well by stores and various private organizations like ESRB, especially in comparison to other mediums) the sale of games would effectively brand games in the same category as porn, painting it with a very broad brush as a medium that has no artistic value (amongst other things, again, go watch Extra Credits) and place the gaming industry under the risk of a massive number of frivolous lawsuits every time a parent feels a game is too violent and they haven't been informed well enough by the massive sticker saying "18+"

Imagine a slightly similar state of that of the current US health care system of everyone just waiting to sue someone's ass off every chance they get, but in about 1000 times worse way considering how negatively a significant portion of the population (and sadly a good deal of those in power) views gaming as a medium.
 

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Capslockbroken said:
The title was a little mislead
Assassin Xaero said:
Oh, it's just for selling them to children younger than 17. I have no problem with that... I thought they were going to ban violence is games all together. If they try that, I'm going after them asking why shit like SAW would be legal to make as a movie, but no violent games?

The title was a little misleading, wasn't it? She's not actually talking about "Banning violent games", she's talking about age restrictions. That's not nearly as bad but, in my opinion, is still a serious problem.
If you say that young children should not be allowed to have access to games like GTA or movies like Saw, then you are absolutely right. The big question is: who should be doing the "not allowing". I think it's a tremendous mistake to be the putting something like that on the government. Bureaucrats are neither equipped nor inclined to do any sort of responsible policing of consumer content, and putting them in that role can only result in serious abuses. The role of parents should still be played by parents.
99% of it should be the parents. I think they are just trying to blame it on the companies so the parents don't have to take responsibility if their children do something stupid.