Batman vs. Lex Luthor

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Escapefromwhatever

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So, where should the Rocksteady Batman games go now that Arkham City is over and
Joker is dead?
Well, remember the various mentions of Metropolis that we heard in the game? What if Batman ventured out of Gotham and visited Supes' home for a game? I feel like there's really only one villain in the DC Universe who can
step up and replace the Joker without the fans getting pissy
- Lex Luthor. He certainly fulfills the evil genius persona that Strange was giving off, at least, but with much more swagger and less creepiness. It could take place before Superman's arrival in Metropolis, thus explaining why he isn't there to save the day, perhaps with a nod towards Clark Kent moving into the city at the end, maybe by having him interview Bruce Wayne as his first big assignment. That could even be used to hint towards a Superman game, which I think Rocksteady could do quite well.

What do you think should come next in the Batman game universe?
 

spectrenihlus

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I think that they are going to go with another character. I would personally love it if Rocksteady tried their hands at a Flash game.
 

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Its a good idea. A really good idea, actually. The only problem is, Lex Luthor is Superman's villain. It would be like having a Superman game with The Joker as the main bad guy. A clever idea, and not without precedent, but it goes against the grain and the entire nature of the characters. It just wouldn't work without Superman there, especially considering how badly Batman fits in with the whole Metropolis, "City of Tomorrow" vibe.

If they make another Arkham game, I would personally like them to set it some time forward in the future. Maybe after the Justice League has been founded. Have Bruce age some, maybe introduce Terry McGinnis into the plot. They could go for a sort of Dark Knight Returns meets Batman Beyond scenario. Since the games don't have to fit into the comic or animated canon, they are free to muck with the timelines a bit and have characters like Terry around before they should show up. As much as I'd love a real Batman Beyond game, the setting itself just isn't as compelling as classic Gotham.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Lex is Lawful Evil, he almost operates out in the open. He tends not to resort to actual violence until its the only thing left and even then he uses others to do it for him. Superman mostly goes after Lex as Clark Kent through reporting. That's why he's a challenging opponent for Supes. Brain vs Brawn.

I can imagine a Lex vs Batman story would be very detective centric and therefore not really suitable for an action based game.

It might work if you had both Batman and Superman swap villains ala the animated movie that came out recently (can't remember the name).
 

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I am almost positive that it's going to be all of Gotham the next time. Two reasons: 'Completing' the Identity Thief mission strongly hints that things will remain in Gotham (where else would he go, seeing as Bruce lives in Gotham?).
Also, Azreal's message of "Gotham will burn." I doubt that Gotham would burn and Batman wouldn't be around. In fact, I'm betting Azreal basically gave us the plotline for the next game. The question is, what super villain is capable of opening the doors to Hell? And I'm betting Azreal meant literal Hell.
 

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The man is pure 100% evil. I don't think even Batman could handle all that raw evil. Thats why he is the arch enemy of a supergod from another planet. Now a cross-over? Eh, I think thats a bad idea, unless Rocksteady made a Justice League game. Wait, thats a brilliant idea.
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
Lex is Lawful Evil, he almost operates out in the open. He tends not to resort to actual violence until its the only thing left and even then he uses others to do it for him. Superman mostly goes after Lex as Clark Kent through reporting. That's why he's a challenging opponent for Supes. Brain vs Brawn.

I can imagine a Lex vs Batman story would be very detective centric and therefore not really suitable for an action based game.

It might work if you had both Batman and Superman swap villains ala the animated movie that came out recently (can't remember the name).
You mean the three-parter from the Superman animated series that came out in the 90s?

Also, there's a point where Lex is trying to hide his evil from the masses and just seem like a legitimate businessman/philanthropist. In fact, this comes before Superman shows up, as Lex is trying to be seen as the most distinguished citizen of Metropolis- it's hero. Then Supes shows up and ruins it all. I feel like a shadowy businessman who's not telling the world what he's truly planning could work as a Batman villain. Hell, he'd work as a Bruce Wayne villain.

Sniper Team 4 said:
I am almost positive that it's going to be all of Gotham the next time. Two reasons: 'Completing' the Identity Thief mission strongly hints that things will remain in Gotham (where else would he go, seeing as Bruce lives in Gotham?).
Also, Azreal's message of "Gotham will burn." I doubt that Gotham would burn and Batman wouldn't be around. In fact, I'm betting Azreal basically gave us the plotline for the next game. The question is, what super villain is capable of opening the doors to Hell? And I'm betting Azreal meant literal Hell.
Ahh. Haven't done either of those yet.

Don Savik said:

The man is pure 100% evil. I don't think even Batman could handle all that raw evil. Thats why he is the arch enemy of a supergod from another planet. Now a cross-over? Eh, I think thats a bad idea, unless Rocksteady made a Justice League game. Wait, thats a brilliant idea.
Exactly. But I feel like they need to do a Superman game before they do a Justice League one. It would ease the audience into the idea of a shared universe as well as give DC's most iconic hero some time devoted strictly to him before bringing everyone into play.
 

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I don't think Lex or Batman would have much conflict. Batman is a perfect human being, not an alien, something Lex idealises and Lex's plans usually benefit mankinds when he's not trying to kil superman.

If Clark wasn't Bruce's buddy I could see him teaming up with Lex to fix the world.
 

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WolfThomas said:
I don't think Lex or Batman would have much conflict. Batman is a perfect human being, not an alien, something Lex idealises and Lex's plans usually benefit mankinds when he's not trying to kil superman.

If Clark wasn't Bruce's buddy I could see him teaming up with Lex to fix the world.
Except for the various human rights violations he's made creating/testing/marketing his equipment, creating the Legion of Doom, and crap he's accidentally done that endangered everyone. I am no stranger to Lex's good side, but it bothers me when people try to make him out as a hero. Besides, Bruce and Lex are business rivals, and Lexcorp and Waynetech seem to have opposite business strategies.
 

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They should definitely build up towards a Justice League game. Maybe create a DC game verse in contrast to Marvel Movie-verse? It would have to be more than just Rocksteady, but that's the beauty of it: multiple artists for comics, multiple game studios for video games.

It's perfect!
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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SuperMse said:
Also, there's a point where Lex is trying to hide his evil from the masses and just seem like a legitimate businessman/philanthropist.
That's kind of what I meant. He isn't like the Joker he's more subtle that's why I thought a clash between him and Batman would be more subtle than a game would require if you see what I mean. Your are right about the animated thing I think I was getting mixed up with something else that came out more recent.

Like you said Batman would be more likely to handle him as Bruce Wayne.