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defcon 1

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One thing that really gets on my nerves as an American is when people whine about our entertainment being violent and immature. I'm not going to deny that obviously but the part that infuriates me is people say it as if America's the only one producing violent and shallow entertainment. In response, I'd like to review one of my favorite eastern films, Battle Royale.

The movie begins by announcing that Japan's economy isn't doing so well and the government passed a law called the Millennium Educational Reform Act, otherwise known as the BR act. The way the act works is by bringing junior high school kids to an island and have them relentlessly slaughter each other. I'm not exactly a political scientist but I fail to see how kids killing each other can help the economy. Perhaps the reason was in the book, then cut from the movie. In the end it doesn't matter because kids kill each other and it's exciting to watch.

Allow me to explain the rules of Battle Royale. The objective is to kill everyone, last one standing wins. Each of them has a neck brace and a three day time limit. If there is more than one contested alive by the end of the three day time limit, all the neck braces explode and no one wins. One thing most n00bs paranoid student would try to do is sit on their ass in one area and wait for someone to run past so they can beat them to death in various ways(see: camping). To prevent this, there will be certain time frames in which certain areas of the island become dead zones. If someone stands in that area for two long, their neck brace blows their face clean off right then and there. These deadzones, toppled with a three day time limit really makes people haul ass, therefore makes the game far more interesting. Each student gets a bag full of goodies, some useful, others are not.

In our particular case, the battle field is an island 10 Kilometers around with 40 students competing for their life. Initially it was more but natural selection took them out before the game began. Battle Royale has some rather interesting characters and a surprising amount of character development for such a movie. Some have secret crushes, others stimulate some good old anxty middle-school drama when weapons are involved, while some of them desperately try to get laid before the cold hands of death claims their hopeless soul. There are definitely more weapons than you may expect. Some of them are guns, swords, and even a paper fan which would have been more than helpful in the Smash Bros franchise, but not in a game like this.

These kids can be astonishingly aggressive when they're up against several other kids and time itself. Many of the fights are done with great style. Allow me to explain: steeling some naive girl's Taser; threatening her with it, then hacking away at her neck with an ax brings me back to the days of Condemned. Machine gunning a group of people for epic loot would make anyone's day, especially the viewer's. There are a few more interesting deaths but I don't feel like spoiling the movie. Perhaps the best parts of the movie are when people work together in order to increase their odds of winning, but you can almost feel the fear in their hearts knowing that they'll have to turn on each other in the end. It seems like the larger a group gets, the more likely someone is aloud to get away with betraying them. Events such as poisoning food to kill a member is a good recipe for the entire team turning on one another. It's one of those movies where you think to yourself, ?can't get any cooler than this? leading up to it getting cooler, and consistently doing so.

The movie does have it's flaws. The dialog and acting is mediocre but it's excused for the sake of cheep humor, but some of it is truly retarded. ?These are our new students, be nice to them? says Kitano right before entering the tournament. ?You ok?? someone ask another guy with an ax lodged in his cranium. The translations contain many spelling mistakes, but think about what that means. I, defcon 1, the guy who can't spell correctly after running his shit through 4 spell checkers caught quite a few, so chances are that there are a lot more errors than meets this reviewer's eyes. Although the movie's target is gore, the blood has the viscosity of vegetable oil. In other words, it's too fake.

Actors, dialog, grammar errors, and cheesy gore effects are scattered throughout the movie but the flaws hardly damage it. The reason why such flaws don't damage the movie is because it doesn't want to be taken too seriously. The reason to watch this movie is to see kids kill each other in several different ways with several different weapons and cheer for the one you put your money on. It's the kind of film best watched with your buddies while making jokes about the content and simotaniously reading the translations. It's certainly one of my favorite movies of all time, but then again I enjoyed games that had unnecessary immature content. As for a recommendation, I say you haven't lived until you've seen Battle Royale.
 

The Wooster

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Klunky wording, an unneeded rant about rappers in the middle and you spelled the title of the movie wrong.

Oh and I completely disagree with you and think the film offers more than mindless gore and violence, but there we go.
 

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Oh my, how embarrassing. I fixed the title and removed the part with capital punishment and rappers. Not sure what to do about the wording but I hope I got my points across. If that wasn't mindless violence and gore, I shutter to think what is.
 

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defcon 1 post=326.73235.788822 said:
Oh my, how embarrassing. I fixed the title and removed the part with capital punishment and rappers. Not sure what to do about the wording but I hope I got my points across. If that wasn't mindless violence and gore, I shutter to think what is.
It's actually quite a clever little commentary on social decay in Japan.

Also spell check your work.

Free spell checker [http://www.spellcheck.net/]

It won't get rid of all your typos and errors, you still need to proof read, but it'll stop obvious ones like 'Anxty' getting through.
 

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I already have 4 and this one didn't reveal much of a difference. Thanks anyways for the link, I'll keep it in mind.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus post=326.73235.788843 said:
defcon 1 post=326.73235.788822 said:
Oh my, how embarrassing. I fixed the title and removed the part with capital punishment and rappers. Not sure what to do about the wording but I hope I got my points across. If that wasn't mindless violence and gore, I shutter to think what is.
It's actually quite a clever little commentary on social decay in Japan.
Interesting reading of it. That's not actually the intent of the story. The author's intent is mostly lost on people who haven't gone to school and worked in Japan, but it's an allegory for the difference between the cooperative atmosphere at schools, and the viciously competitive corporate culture of the Japanese workplace and job market.

I'd reccommend the book over the film, but be warned it has a fucking shocking translation.
 

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GloatingSwine post=326.73235.788894 said:
Decoy Doctorpus post=326.73235.788843 said:
defcon 1 post=326.73235.788822 said:
Oh my, how embarrassing. I fixed the title and removed the part with capital punishment and rappers. Not sure what to do about the wording but I hope I got my points across. If that wasn't mindless violence and gore, I shutter to think what is.
It's actually quite a clever little commentary on social decay in Japan.
Interesting reading of it. That's not actually the intent of the story. The author's intent is mostly lost on people who haven't gone to school and worked in Japan, but it's an allegory for the difference between the cooperative atmosphere at schools, and the viciously competitive corporate culture of the Japanese workplace and job market.

I'd reccommend the book over the film, but be warned it has a fucking shocking translation.
Has the author stated that or is just your interpretation? It's an interesting idea though.
 

GloatingSwine

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Yeah, in the foreword to the English version of the book.

The author Koushun Takami, spent some time as a schoolteacher in Japan, and was mostly writing from his view of what happened to his students after they left school.
 

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GloatingSwine post=326.73235.788908 said:
Yeah, in the foreword to the English version of the book.

The author Koushun Takami, spent some time as a schoolteacher in Japan, and was mostly writing from his view of what happened to his students after they left school.
I never did get round to reading the book. Although Takami pretty much stated the manga was closer to his origina vision character wise.

That being said it had some really trippy moments.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus post=326.73235.788915 said:
GloatingSwine post=326.73235.788908 said:
Yeah, in the foreword to the English version of the book.

The author Koushun Takami, spent some time as a schoolteacher in Japan, and was mostly writing from his view of what happened to his students after they left school.
I never did get round to reading the book. Although Takami pretty much stated the manga was closer to his origina vision character wise.

That being said it had some really trippy moments.
The manga was a lot more...visceral than the movie I found, I have yet to read the book as well. Haven't read all the manga by any means, but I picked up a few novels here and there (for all the blood, guts, nudity and sex scenes, Waterstones are surprisingly willing to sell it to minors) and I quite enjoyed it.
 

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GloatingSwine post=326.73235.788894 said:
Decoy Doctorpus post=326.73235.788843 said:
It's actually quite a clever little commentary on social decay in Japan.
Interesting reading of it. That's not actually the intent of the story. The author's intent is mostly lost on people who haven't gone to school and worked in Japan, but it's an allegory for the difference between the cooperative atmosphere at schools, and the viciously competitive corporate culture of the Japanese workplace and job market.

I'd reccommend the book over the film, but be warned it has a fucking shocking translation.
The "director's cut" is pretty big on showing you the kids' broken families, though. The protagonist's mother abandons him and his father commits suicide, for example; Mitsuko's personality is directly attributed to abuse.

The very premise -- adults creating BR to scare and punish teenagers -- is all about that kind of failure to care for and connect with Japanese youth on a massive, societal scale. Of course, the adults in the movie are just as lost and screwed-up as the kids. The younger generation is the product of their elders' emotional isolation -- they're unable to take care of themselves, much less someone else.

I wouldn't be surprised if the book hammers a different point, as Wikipedia says that the principal (the main representation of adults in the film) is radically different, and that the book has much more of a "police state" feel to it. Still, I think social detachment was very much front-and-center in the minds of the screenplay writer and the director when they made the film.

-- Alex
 

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harhol said:
"At the dawn of the millennium, the nation collapsed. At fifteen percent unemployment, ten million were out of work. 800,000 students boycotted school. The adults lost confidence, and fearing the youth, eventually passed the Millennium Educational Reform Act"
It's like I said before, I fail to understand how having kids kill each other will make 800,000 students go back to school and fix all of Japan's problems. It just sounded like they couldn't think of a better excuse to hold such a tournament. Perhaps he book and manga explains more but I have only seen the movie.
 

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defcon 1 post=326.73235.789964 said:
harhol said:
"At the dawn of the millennium, the nation collapsed. At fifteen percent unemployment, ten million were out of work. 800,000 students boycotted school. The adults lost confidence, and fearing the youth, eventually passed the Millennium Educational Reform Act"
It's like I said before, I fail to understand how having kids kill each other will make 800,000 students go back to school and fix all of Japan's problems. It just sounded like they couldn't think of a better excuse to hold such a tournament. Perhaps he book and manga explains more but I have only seen the movie.
It's basically institutional terrorism. Behave, don't question the government, or your kids end up in The Program.

The book is far more explicit about Japan's status as an Orwellian dystopia.
 

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It scares me when something like Battle Royale is described as "cool, stylish, and exciting".
 

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Break post=326.73235.790437 said:
It scares me when something like Battle Royale is described as "cool, stylish, and exciting".
Depends on how you define those three words really I guess.
Cool=Good for me generally, so yeah, I thought Battle Royale was pretty cool.
Stylish...well it has a style, and...it follows it. So it's stylish in it's own style...I guess?
Exciting- Well, it is. It was an exciting, moving and thought provoking film. I really should pick up the book one of these days...
 

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GloatingSwine post=326.73235.790294 said:
defcon 1 post=326.73235.789964 said:
harhol said:
"At the dawn of the millennium, the nation collapsed. At fifteen percent unemployment, ten million were out of work. 800,000 students boycotted school. The adults lost confidence, and fearing the youth, eventually passed the Millennium Educational Reform Act"
It's like I said before, I fail to understand how having kids kill each other will make 800,000 students go back to school and fix all of Japan's problems. It just sounded like they couldn't think of a better excuse to hold such a tournament. Perhaps he book and manga explains more but I have only seen the movie.
It's basically institutional terrorism. Behave, don't question the government, or your kids end up in The Program.

The book is far more explicit about Japan's status as an Orwellian dystopia.
That crossed my mind, but why don't they simply kill the kids instead of hosting a tournament like that?
 

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Letting the kids kill each other is far more fun to watch than killing them yourself.
 

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I personally prefer the novel or the manga, if you can stomach the graphic violence and sex. Primarily I prefer them because of the level if depth the characters are given, with flashbacks, and glimpses into the minds of even the coldest killers. I almost cried when some of those characters died after seeing their stories unfold. Not many stories have that effect on me.
 

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defcon 1 post=326.73235.790752 said:
GloatingSwine post=326.73235.790294 said:
It's basically institutional terrorism. Behave, don't question the government, or your kids end up in The Program.

The book is far more explicit about Japan's status as an Orwellian dystopia.
That crossed my mind, but why don't they simply kill the kids instead of hosting a tournament like that?
Because being forced to fight and kill your friends and classmates is a scarier concept than straight execution. And for the money. The rest of the country viewed the Battle Royale as some kind of cool game show.

Depends on how you define those three words really I guess.
Cool=Good for me generally, so yeah, I thought Battle Royale was pretty cool.
Stylish...well it has a style, and...it follows it. So it's stylish in it's own style...I guess?
Exciting- Well, it is. It was an exciting, moving and thought provoking film. I really should pick up the book one of these days...
When they're not balanced by "dystopian" and "horrifying", those words are completely out of place. To see it as a "light-hearted action flick" is to ignore the implications about the state of the world. You may as well giggle through Saw.
 

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GloatingSwine post=326.73235.788894 said:
I'd reccommend the book over the film, but be warned it has a fucking shocking translation.
I actually read the book before I saw the movie, but I heard about it from a friend of mine who saw the movie before. The movie's quite tame in comparison to the book (and the manga, from what I've heard), but I wasn't sure if you meant "shocking" as in the content or the way it was translated.