Battlefield Dev Thinks Its Competition Is Getting Lazy

[MiracleOfSound]

Yeah, and it's already been spoiled elswhere. Several times.

Nice logic there... if someone else did it first then it's ok to do it again?

I've never seen it spoiled anywhere else.

 

[Alden Hou]

can we please get back on topic instead of talking about spoiler tags?

 

[beema]

Shit talking developers always wind up looking stupid. They better hope BF3 pays out.

I find it kind of funny that in a time when games think they need to have a multiplayer to compete that this franchise has decided it needs single player.

I'm 98% positive it will be a forgettable, under 8 hour campaign that nobody will even think about after the first week of release, just like every other modern combat shooter.

The multiplayer might just be so fantastic that doesn't matter though

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

True. But are you saying that DICE didn't try to be engaging? Wouldn't that mean they actively tried not to be engaging? I'm pretty sure it's one or the other.

Yes. I'm saying that the campaign was hastily slapped together and not really meant to be a huge part of the game. DICE did not put much effort into it, in my eyes, or at least, not into all of it.

Not sure if that's sarcasm.

It is.

MW2 did at least do something original with its ending. True.

But what would you suggest BC2 do that would be better? And you've got to remember, DICE wants to make money just as much as the next guy. They needed some sort of sequel hook.

They can at least not steal their main twist from the game they're trying to make fun of.

 

[se7ensenses]

I've always enjoyed the BF series more more than COD.

 

[Z4N5H1N]

Zzzzz. Nothing's lazier than shitting out sequels to your cash cow franchise, and DICE is no less guilty of that than Treyarch or Infinity Ward. Make another Mirror's Edge and we'll talk, DICE; in the mean time, I'll be playing Brink instead of your shiny new "CoD-killer."

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

If anything is going to upset COD, it'll be Battlefield 3. Looking forward to this fall.

 

[Wolfram23]

Well I hope he pulls through with his claims. I'll most definitely be getting BF3, although of course mostly it'll be so I can use a tank in MP but if the SP campaign is any good you bet I'll play through it.

 

[Blightning]

I like the part where he implies DICE is not lazy. Sure, they redevelop their engine all the time, but they never seem to want to fix frustrating things in multiplayer gameplay. Remember podsurfing in BF2142, and how there was no way to stop it but vigilant admins? Or how the best way to destroy objectives in BC2 is anything but actually arming the explosives yourself? Or how C4 Jeeping still works even though it frustrates half the fanbase?

 

[The Random One]

a strong single player campaign is never an unwelcome addition to a game.

Speak for yourself.

 

[Ajna]

True. But are you saying that DICE didn't try to be engaging? Wouldn't that mean they actively tried not to be engaging? I'm pretty sure it's one or the other.

Yes. I'm saying that the campaign was hastily slapped together and not really meant to be a huge part of the game. DICE did not put much effort into it, in my eyes, or at least, not into all of it.

I can't see how I can phrase what I said differently, and I can't see how I can change your mind, so I'll abandon this line of thought completely.

Not sure if that's sarcasm.

It is.

Okay, thanks.

MW2 did at least do something original with its ending. True.

But what would you suggest BC2 do that would be better? And you've got to remember, DICE wants to make money just as much as the next guy. They needed some sort of sequel hook.

They can at least not steal their main twist from the game they're trying to make fun of.
I thought the main twist in MW2 was that an American was the person pulling the strings in the first place?

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Spoiler

I thought the main twist in MW2 was that an American was the person pulling the strings in the first place?

Alright, one of the main twists. Or at least shocker moments.

 

[Jumplion]

Developers have to occasionally take a leap and try something new, says DICE's general manager.

The question is; will you?

I forsee many a people claiming that it's yet another modern warfare FPS with explosions, craziness, and over the top action. And from what I've see (admittedly very little) it does seem to be yet another modern warfare FPS with explosions, craziness, and over the top action.

Prove me wrong, DICE.

Prove me wrong...

Of course, I loved the Bad Company games, and if they're anything like that then I think I'm in for a treat.

 

[Ajna]

-snip-

That's... Actually way better. You seriously should work for somebody as a storyboard writer, cuz... Really, I'd much rather play that than the actual BC2 campaign. Damn.

 

[DTWolfwood]

I guess EA's other game Medal of Honor doesn't count as competition...ROFL god i could not type that with a straight face XD

Still don't get the Medal of Honor hate around here. Despite what Extra Credits would have you believe, the game actually sold over 4 million copies on the consoles. Admittedly, it's PC sales figures suck at 300K worldwide but something that sells over 4 million copies isn't bad.

well how many of your friends still play it? I know none of mine are. XD

 

[thepyrethatburns]

I guess EA's other game Medal of Honor doesn't count as competition...ROFL god i could not type that with a straight face XD

Still don't get the Medal of Honor hate around here. Despite what Extra Credits would have you believe, the game actually sold over 4 million copies on the consoles. Admittedly, it's PC sales figures suck at 300K worldwide but something that sells over 4 million copies isn't bad.

well how many of your friends still play it? I know none of mine are. XD

That's not actually a good question. Most of my Xbox friends are people that I don't know who just friended me and I rarely refuse a friend request. Out of the people that I do personally know:

One hates competition and only really likes to do co-op if we're doing Live together.
One digs on anything COD and pretty much modern shooters in general (He thinks Battlefield is crap. I don't know if that says something or not.).
Two think that FPS games are for people whose brain stem stopped developing at age 8.

So asking me what my friends think isn't really a great yardstick. If I may offer a criticism, it's also a self-centered one. I don't play a whole lot online. Not counting Sunday Live sessions with my personal friends, I'm not too big on playing with Randoms because of situations like:

Last night, I decided to play L4D2's mutation "Follow the Liter". I was doing well in the game and working well as a team player. We were tied up but I got kicked in the last round. Y'know what my offense was?

I wouldn't join in the discussion of whether the jockey was gay and where he's sticking his "jockey" when he jumps on someone.

However, when I have wanted to play Medal of Honor multi (and I only got it last week after renting it from Gamefly), I have had no problem joining a game. Therefore, a lot of people must still like the multiplayer.

And, once again, 4.3 million copies sold. How many games sell less than that? How many fan favorite games sell less than that? Ultimately sales determine who your competition is.