Bayonets: Are they practical?
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Bayonets are from an era where guns were a lot worse. If I was gonna use one it would be like this.
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/12/01/bayonet-1.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/12/01/bayonet-1.jpg
Problem is, when ur a basic level infantryman, a sidearm isnt usually available to you unless of course you are in a squad leader position where you are issued a sidearm to the best of my knowledge, then again i might be wrong and u may need to be in a higher position to receive one. Basically most soldiers are not issued one and those who are it is more of a symbol of authority (lack of a better term). Special forces are a different story as many of the carry sidearms along with their primary weapons and others. And throwing a knife in a combat situation i imagine would be very impracticable. I have never been in the military nor have i experienced any combat (aside from many years of target shooting and shooting training from professionals) but in a situation where you may be at best 15 feet from a hostile target, a throwing knife would be highly impractical even if you highly trained.AndyFromMonday said:
O.T. : bayonets can never be a BAD idea, probably limited in its use but if it saves your life than it can be the greatest tool in a soldiers arsenal.
Goddamnit, not only does my gun only barely resemble a penis, I can't even put it through someone to suggest my dominance over them! What my gun needs is something attached to the barrel that sticks out and can stab people!
Where are you getting this? No, they are not in use anymore. Its just got a useless little perk where it can go on guns these days. They aren't just used for killing, they are used for plenty of other things.
Although they were used in the battle of Mogadishu(what Black hawk down was about) when some of the soldiers ran out of ammo.
Although they were used in the battle of Mogadishu(what Black hawk down was about) when some of the soldiers ran out of ammo.
Might be useful in a close quarters/house to house situation, having a knife on the end of your gun just in case. They are pretty short these days IIRC. I imagine there's a reason modern armies still give out bayonettes and do bayontte drills etc.
I heard that even in WW1 they were more there for ceremonial reasons, hardly every actually used. This was with bolt action rifles, I think a full auto modern weapon holds to this much more. I could see the value as a utility knife, but I still think a sheathed one would serve better.
Wasn't the original principle of the bayonet to be:
A: Fall back when out of ammo/ in CQB?
B: Scary to the enemy?
knowing this can we all agree that in the modern world the only practical solution is a chainsaw bayonet: its bloody scary and if you run out of ammo you only have to worry about fuel, and if it comes to it, you can use that same fuel to keep your vehicles moving as they run out of juice.
I like the idea of a chainsaw bayonet and think Mr Bleszinski needs to contact the Special Air services (or yank equivalent) with the plan.
A: Fall back when out of ammo/ in CQB?
B: Scary to the enemy?
knowing this can we all agree that in the modern world the only practical solution is a chainsaw bayonet: its bloody scary and if you run out of ammo you only have to worry about fuel, and if it comes to it, you can use that same fuel to keep your vehicles moving as they run out of juice.
I like the idea of a chainsaw bayonet and think Mr Bleszinski needs to contact the Special Air services (or yank equivalent) with the plan.
They would help in close combat, but that happens so rarely these days that you could probally do without it.
In the British Army side arms are unheard of (except maybe spacial forces). There is little justification for side arms. Your rifle uses both your hands and if you have time to put that down and get a side arm out and ready then you probably have time to reload or sort out any stoppage. You are right about the authority though, as officers are taught to shot pistols, whereas non comissioned soldiers aren't.brucelee13245 said:
OT: How can it be a bad thing? At the very least the bayonet is a knife which is a basic survival tool
I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it. It's really not all that heavy to carry around on top of all your other gear, either. Having to reach for your knife on your leg takes longer than having one on your rifle. Towards the actual use of bayonets, if you know what you're doing you should be fine, if you don't the other guy is still going to have time to kill you before he dies; Death by stab wound isn't usually instantaneous.