Bayonetta Delayed Until 2010

Dorian Cornelius Jasper

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I respect any publisher that knows not to kill their release by sending it up against a behemoth. A lot of good games got overshadowed that way.

That said, I don't own a this-gen console so it's clear which mention of what game in the article got my attention.
 

The Shade

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
I was just as bummed out when I heard the remake of superman 64 was being delayed.
What?!? But...but...I've waited SO LONG!

How much longer must you torture me!!!!
 

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The Shade said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I was just as bummed out when I heard the remake of superman 64 was being delayed.
What?!? But...but...I've waited SO LONG!

How much longer must you torture me!!!!
It's alright we probably have a support group in your area.
 

Erana

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Aww.... I wanted some stupid fun to come down in price before next summer...
 

Aiden Rebirth

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Who cares it's just a DMC clone. A pretty DMC clone that looks really fun, but will disappoint in the end like every DMC I have ever bought. Screw u DMC 1, 3 and 4!
 

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Bayonetta...

Something tells me I should know about this. Oh God, I'm so far out of the loop.
 

Paragon Fury

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Tenmar said:
A damn shame but let's not mention HER name again. Do we as gamers actually think SHE is hot? I sure don't and hate any female protagonist that is meant to represent independence, strength and intelligence compared to the bimbo.
Sarcasm readout unclear. Please explain yourself.



As for me, its kind of a relief. I wanted to play this game, but now I don't have to worry about coming up with money for it until later, which is good, because the MW2: Presitge Edtion, ODST and Borderlands are going to wipe out my gaming bank account.
 

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I'm sorry, but I've done the due dilligence of researching the game and it made me vomit piss from my eyeballs. I don't get the hype over yet another fantasy action jrpg title. Have only one in your game library and it's probably the best one ever made in your opinion but jam a few more in there and they all reveal themselves to be pretty much the same thing.

Here's the breakdown.

Hype Process: Or How To Build False Hope Suspense.

a) Make false claims of originality.
b) Promise tits.
c) Delay until judgement day.
d) Not make back the money because you made it for the PS3 but it's ok, you're SEGA, nobody will ever take you out to pasture where you belong.

All kidding aside, delays are an inevitable recurrence in this day of advanced digital gaming. You can't release a game with critical bugs in it without kissing your franchise goodbye. This delay is probably for a damn good reason and can (optimistically) potentially improve the game making the waiting all that more worth it.

(PS: my original header for this post was 'cry mich ein river' but then I realized I actually had a valid point to make and decided against it)
 

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stabnex said:
I'm sorry, but I've done the due dilligence of researching the game and it made me vomit piss from my eyeballs. I don't get the hype over yet another fantasy action jrpg title. Have only one in your game library and it's probably the best one ever made in your opinion but jam a few more in there and they all reveal themselves to be pretty much the same thing.

Here's the breakdown.

Hype Process: Or How To Build False Hope Suspense.

a) Make false claims of originality.
b) Promise tits.
c) Delay until judgement day.
d) Not make back the money because you made it for the PS3 but it's ok, you're SEGA, nobody will ever take you out to pasture where you belong.

All kidding aside, delays are an inevitable recurrence in this day of advanced digital gaming. You can't release a game with critical bugs in it without kissing your franchise goodbye. This delay is probably for a damn good reason and can (optimistically) potentially improve the game making the waiting all that more worth it.

(PS: my original header for this post was 'cry mich ein river' but then I realized I actually had a valid point to make and decided against it)
this sounds so much like too human
 

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I'm sorry but I believe in developers, and the guy who made DMC and Okami (yes OKAMI) was directing this game. DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 were both big let downs for me as an action game fan. DMC4 was almost DMC2 bad, while Ninja Gaiden 2 was basically Ninja Gaiden 1 with less story (meaning it had negative story instead of zero story), and less interesting level designs (despite being NG:World Tour).

Bayonetta is pretty much open to take the genre away from both these titles IMO.
 

Paragon Fury

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Tenmar said:
Paragon Fury said:
Tenmar said:
A damn shame but let's not mention HER name again. Do we as gamers actually think SHE is hot? I sure don't and hate any female protagonist that is meant to represent independence, strength and intelligence compared to the bimbo.
Sarcasm readout unclear. Please explain yourself.



As for me, its kind of a relief. I wanted to play this game, but now I don't have to worry about coming up with money for it until later, which is good, because the MW2: Presitge Edtion, ODST and Borderlands are going to wipe out my gaming bank account.
I don't like hearing strong female protagonists being compared to Sarah Palin because people think she is hot. There was no sarcasm when I wrote that post. She is does not represent any female video game character. Also she single handed killed the librarian look.
Oh. You were refering to Palin. I was confused, as you used a female pronoun to refer to completely asexual being. Please be more clear next time.
 

Therumancer

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Tenmar said:
A damn shame but let's not mention HER name again. Do we as gamers actually think SHE is hot? I sure don't and hate any female protagonist that is meant to represent independence, strength and intelligence compared to the bimbo.

I'll be honest. All of these strong female characters that they churn out one after another tend to run together in my brain as they all wind up seeming like they came from the same cookie cutter mould after a while. Even with Japanese characters where they have more flavors of the "Strong female lead" you can still sort them by type fairly easily.

Honestly I sort of gave X-blades Kudos for trying to break that mould to an extent by having a "Girls wanna have fun" type vibe (or trying to).

I mean even when looking at characters created for girls almost exclusively, the ones that wind up being popular aren't that strong and perfect. I mean Barbie (laugh if you want, she's an enduring character who has been pretty much anything from an Archaologist, to a Detective, to a Rodeo Rider) perhaps the quintessential "can do anything" girl hero, isn't as "I am so perfect and serious Grrr!" as some of these video game characters nowadays.

I guess Yahtzee sort of summarized it in his comments on how Lara Croft has changed from being playful, to what is basically a carpet munching amazon.

I think we need more Bimbo (though that is a bad term) to stand out from the crowd nowadays. As odd as it might sound, your really strong, super-intelligent, independant female leads are not breaking a stereotype, they have BECOME the cookie cutter stereotype. We need less mary sues and you know... more reasonable characters. I find it kind of odd that male action heroes seem to have more fun doing their thing that the female ones nowadays (as odd as this might sound) because the female ones are too busy chain smoking cigars to prove how strong and butch they are.

This is getting repetitive I guess...

But on the subject (after that wall of ramble), I see nothing exceptional about Baynetta. Almost everything about it from the protaganist, to the enemies seems pretty much cookie cutter. I mean even the idea of having her fight Angels and still be the good guy isn't that big a change given the fact that we've had games (admittedly mostly JRPGs like Persona) doing that kind of thing for a while now. Even here on western shores flipping the presumed roles of a cosmology not exactly a new spin on things.

It pretty much seems like a cookie cutter female action hero, like any other grimly serious amazon action hero, turned loose in your quintessential beat 'em up (probably with some customization elements, which they all have), featuring angels as the spin compared to more stereotypical demons, robots, or aliens. Recycle beat-em-up type action gameplay stolen from franchises like Devil May Cry and God Of War, add the new art and wows... it's Bayonetta.

I have suspect that it's not just errors delaying it, but eventually someone figured that what they were releasing was pretty much what everyone else had already done, minus anything revolutionary, so they are probably digging to find some unique spin/gameplay element to throw onto it (and codre properly) to make the game stand out... because honestly nothing I've seen about this game (as others have said before me) seems even remotely noteworthy.

I imagine the game sprung from someone at a dev meeting basically saying "what would happen if Bullet Witch and Devil May Cry had a love child?".
 

Logan Westbrook

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Tenmar said:
I don't like hearing strong female protagonists being compared to Sarah Palin because people think she is hot. There was no sarcasm when I wrote that post. She is does not represent any female video game character. Also she single handed killed the librarian look.
Just to be clear on this, I don't have a warm fuzzy place in my heart for Sarah Palin, it's just that Bayonetta looks somewhat like her, and it seemed like it might make for an amusing opening to the article.
 

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Therumancer said:
I'll be honest. All of these strong female characters that they churn out one after another tend to run together in my brain as they all wind up seeming like they came from the same cookie cutter mould after a while. Even with Japanese characters where they have more flavors of the "Strong female lead" you can still sort them by type fairly easily.

Honestly I sort of gave X-blades Kudos for trying to break that mould to an extent by having a "Girls wanna have fun" type vibe (or trying to).

I mean even when looking at characters created for girls almost exclusively, the ones that wind up being popular aren't that strong and perfect. I mean Barbie (laugh if you want, she's an enduring character who has been pretty much anything from an Archaologist, to a Detective, to a Rodeo Rider) perhaps the quintessential "can do anything" girl hero, isn't as "I am so perfect and serious Grrr!" as some of these video game characters nowadays.

I guess Yahtzee sort of summarized it in his comments on how Lara Croft has changed from being playful, to what is basically a carpet munching amazon.

I think we need more Bimbo (though that is a bad term) to stand out from the crowd nowadays. As odd as it might sound, your really strong, super-intelligent, independant female leads are not breaking a stereotype, they have BECOME the cookie cutter stereotype. We need less mary sues and you know... more reasonable characters. I find it kind of odd that male action heroes seem to have more fun doing their thing that the female ones nowadays (as odd as this might sound) because the female ones are too busy chain smoking cigars to prove how strong and butch they are.
What you are describing isn't a strong female lead, its a male character with tits. Which is what these games are doing. What we need isn't a bimbo but a female character whos actually fucking female.

I'm not saying there aren't strong, intelligent, independant women. Hell, my wife is one of them. But shes still a women, and as such, behaves and thinks diffrently from a man.

So bascially what I'm saying is that my wife should have a video game based on her :)