You mean to say you have never in your life seen an infra red cursor control?Raiyan 1.0 said:
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BBC: Does the PC have a future?
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Come on man, to the time machine and 1990!
Yeah, people can be stupid. They keep buying gadgets they really don't need and then they convince themselves that they can't live without them and don't know how they used to live without them. I'm talking about iPhone and iPad here. Two of the most useless gimmicks ever created by man.
A lot of people depend on PC's. Video game developers, special effect guys, engineers etc. They all need the latest and greatest PC tech. And the biggest crowd of them all are PC gamers. PC won't die. In case you didn't know, companies that make PC components (Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc.) are earning more money than ever before. All of these little gimmicks are a thing of the moment. They can only go so far. Just look at iPhone and iPad. Every fuckin' year they make the same thing, add a few extra features that no one should really give a damn, and they sell it as a new product. It's only a matter of time before people just stop buying those gimmicks because they are too expensive and don't offer enough to justify all that spending.
A lot of people depend on PC's. Video game developers, special effect guys, engineers etc. They all need the latest and greatest PC tech. And the biggest crowd of them all are PC gamers. PC won't die. In case you didn't know, companies that make PC components (Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc.) are earning more money than ever before. All of these little gimmicks are a thing of the moment. They can only go so far. Just look at iPhone and iPad. Every fuckin' year they make the same thing, add a few extra features that no one should really give a damn, and they sell it as a new product. It's only a matter of time before people just stop buying those gimmicks because they are too expensive and don't offer enough to justify all that spending.
You may have a point. I remember the time when I first saw a <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smaky>motion detector.fix-the-spade said:
But on a more serious note, the bit I hated about the article was this:
One thing the PC makers have not done over the last few years is make products that are innovative in terms of compelling features and novel form factors.
They're basically saying desktops/PCs will die out because they've failed to procure gimmicks like the iPad and the Wiimote. you know, the shiny stuff the sheeple are are looking for. Those idiots were probably responsible for <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113986-Apple-Voted-Largest-Influence-On-Gaming-Industry>this as well.
Because yeah, that's exactly what the office workers, developers, hardcore gamers and simmers want. Can't wait to start using my iOS device for using UDK!
*facepalm*
Actually I think it's strength is the ease of use.bahumat42 said:
All the advert would have to do is how someone using it, you can take between all three 'modes' inside of thirty seconds. The hardware handles the switches automatically so all the user has to remeber is 'flip thing over' and 'plus thing into other thing' and the rest takes care of itself.
I can already see the douchey Apple commercial for one,
This is a Macbook {hands using laptop flip it into tablet mode} and now it's an Ipad {Sits unit into docking station. screen, DVD drive and keyboard power up automatically} and NOW it's a Mac, the new apple I'm smug, everything in one.
<spoiler= In fact I dug up this little demo video here>
<youtube=oPcBFm6dktU>
I see what you're getting at, but Gigabyte really seem to have nailed the user friendliness aspect, I think these things will be huge soon.
The BBC is one of the worst news networks around which is a shame as they used to be very good, horribly biased stories, so in short everything they say is most likely wrong.
"graphics heavy games...Skyrim"
-chuckles- what a quaint joke.
Anyway, OT.
Desktop PC's aren't going anywhere, they're just not "the one and only" anymore. Much in the same way Landlines still exist even though Mobile phones also exist now too...as well as being able to call people from a computer.
What PC's are going through as a whole is the rise of mobility. Need the best performance? You get a Desktop. Need the best Mobility? Get a smart-phone. Need to strike the best balance between performance and mobility? Get a laptop. And between these extremes there are bridges and midpoints, Tablet devices bridge the gap between smartphones and laptops, things like Ultrabooks and small desktops (the kind you'd take to LAN's) bridge the gap between laptops and Desktops.
Desktops aren't dying, it has just had a bunch of incredibly successful children, rest assured a desktop will always be required.
-chuckles- what a quaint joke.
Anyway, OT.
Desktop PC's aren't going anywhere, they're just not "the one and only" anymore. Much in the same way Landlines still exist even though Mobile phones also exist now too...as well as being able to call people from a computer.
What PC's are going through as a whole is the rise of mobility. Need the best performance? You get a Desktop. Need the best Mobility? Get a smart-phone. Need to strike the best balance between performance and mobility? Get a laptop. And between these extremes there are bridges and midpoints, Tablet devices bridge the gap between smartphones and laptops, things like Ultrabooks and small desktops (the kind you'd take to LAN's) bridge the gap between laptops and Desktops.
Desktops aren't dying, it has just had a bunch of incredibly successful children, rest assured a desktop will always be required.
They are dying, but that's the nature of technology. Who here still uses a type writer to type up documents? Probably very few of you, and probably less of you use a typewriter solely to type up documents instead of a PC or laptop or tablet or whatever. Who still uses telegrams? Very few people if any. It's not a bad thing though; technology has improved and outmoded older forms of it. Our lives or at least communication has improved because of it.
This being said, I don't think the PC will die for a long time. Now, it's filling a niche market on both the industrial and personal level. PCs can hold more information and are more powerful than most laptops. If you take the best PC and the best laptop, the PC is still stronger processing wise. One day, this will no longer be true. Laptops will be just as strong as PCs. When that day comes, PCs will die. It hasn't yet, especially for the video game market, but to say that it will never come ignores historical trends.
(Also for anyone arguing semantics about "technically your laptop is a PC" you're splitting hairs. Does anyone refer to their laptop or tablet as "my PC"? No, they call it a laptop or tablet. Yes, PC and desktop are not synonymous, but most people equate "PC" with desktop. Of course, computers in general aren't going anywhere. Probably from this point until the end of humanity, there will always be a personal computer of some sort.)
This being said, I don't think the PC will die for a long time. Now, it's filling a niche market on both the industrial and personal level. PCs can hold more information and are more powerful than most laptops. If you take the best PC and the best laptop, the PC is still stronger processing wise. One day, this will no longer be true. Laptops will be just as strong as PCs. When that day comes, PCs will die. It hasn't yet, especially for the video game market, but to say that it will never come ignores historical trends.
(Also for anyone arguing semantics about "technically your laptop is a PC" you're splitting hairs. Does anyone refer to their laptop or tablet as "my PC"? No, they call it a laptop or tablet. Yes, PC and desktop are not synonymous, but most people equate "PC" with desktop. Of course, computers in general aren't going anywhere. Probably from this point until the end of humanity, there will always be a personal computer of some sort.)
I think the PC definately has less of a role for the average person than it used to so many years ago, but I think the PC will still have a place in the most performance intensive tasks. I won't use a laptop for any music studio work personally, for example.
Also, would you use a laptop for gaming over a PC? (okay your thread wasn't about this but I had to say so, however it's decieving because this is in the gaming discussion forum)
And I don't think this is a bad thing. The PC will still be here, but there is no point trying to resist any change to technology, by any stretch of the imagination. If PCs ever die (for whatever reason), it will definately be for the better.
Also, would you use a laptop for gaming over a PC? (okay your thread wasn't about this but I had to say so, however it's decieving because this is in the gaming discussion forum)
And I don't think this is a bad thing. The PC will still be here, but there is no point trying to resist any change to technology, by any stretch of the imagination. If PCs ever die (for whatever reason), it will definately be for the better.
I think it abit stupid asking a company that only really produces RAM, my system is getting on now it's 4 nearly 5 years old, it's had 4gb RAM since i built it, i've never needed to upgrade my ram, it still runs all modern games on high at 1680*1050 and currently its down a gig (has been for a few month but i havent needed the 4th gig).
The one thing my system has had upgraded several times (lemme count...on it's 5th) is the graphics card, and thats only because i buy midranged cards so i don't go spending £200+ on a card.
PC's will always be around and for one simple reason, a desktop has a hell lot more horsepower than a laptop or smartphone. That and a desktop doesn't go an overheat every few hours unlike alot of laptops i've owned.
The one thing my system has had upgraded several times (lemme count...on it's 5th) is the graphics card, and thats only because i buy midranged cards so i don't go spending £200+ on a card.
PC's will always be around and for one simple reason, a desktop has a hell lot more horsepower than a laptop or smartphone. That and a desktop doesn't go an overheat every few hours unlike alot of laptops i've owned.
For the average consumer, the laptop likely is a more practical solution to their needs.
To a gamer, and to anyone who's working in any kind of creative industry, the desktop is a must.
In business, it also makes a lot of sense to have a desktop.
The desktop won't die for an awful long time, if ever.
Portability is a thing, sure, it's nice for some things. But, the idea that "Portable = better" is just silly.
Any activity that requires more than 10 minutes of your dedicated attention just won't work as well if you're using it in a "Portable" way.
The reason phones, MP3 players and what-not work is because you're not using them constantly, you might press your Ipod 3 times in the space of an hour, and it'll do it's job all during this time.
A game will not.
To a gamer, and to anyone who's working in any kind of creative industry, the desktop is a must.
In business, it also makes a lot of sense to have a desktop.
The desktop won't die for an awful long time, if ever.
Portability is a thing, sure, it's nice for some things. But, the idea that "Portable = better" is just silly.
Any activity that requires more than 10 minutes of your dedicated attention just won't work as well if you're using it in a "Portable" way.
The reason phones, MP3 players and what-not work is because you're not using them constantly, you might press your Ipod 3 times in the space of an hour, and it'll do it's job all during this time.
A game will not.
A laptop is a PC. Instead of my family only having one desktop, we have five PC's. The desktop is dead (i think), the laptop is the future.
The PC is dead, long live the PC.
Keyboard has a certain advantage over touchscreen, just like controllers and buttons have a certain advantage over the wii and kinect.
The PC is dead, long live the PC.
Keyboard has a certain advantage over touchscreen, just like controllers and buttons have a certain advantage over the wii and kinect.
wait whatMatParker116 said:
http://content.dell.com/us/en/corp/d/secure/fy11_q3_earnings_release
dell 3q reports have 19% increase
yes PC is dieing despite people buying more of them
With most stuff the BBC are "generally" pretty good, but as soon as they start talking about technology, its not worth paying attention, cos they have no clue what there talking about.
For instance over the summer hols, I was watching the news when they had a half an hour special about the internet (i think it was the anniveriasry of its creation or somehting), and dear god was it retardely patonising. This is genuinly how it started.. "Did you know the internet and the web are two differnt things? I didnt." Yes well done BBC, good to see your keeping up with the times... It then went on for another 20 mins and didnt even properly explain the difference, and introduced a couple of people who hold the "keys" to the internet. -_-
But random BBC technophobe rant over, back on topic;
It maybe true that PC sales are done, but then again it is a recession, so even with cheaper PCs its only logical that sales mabye down. And yes there is still a lot of potential for PC, for instance just compaire the graphics of the Xbox edition of BF3 to the PC one and see the huge graphical advantage the PC has.
For instance over the summer hols, I was watching the news when they had a half an hour special about the internet (i think it was the anniveriasry of its creation or somehting), and dear god was it retardely patonising. This is genuinly how it started.. "Did you know the internet and the web are two differnt things? I didnt." Yes well done BBC, good to see your keeping up with the times... It then went on for another 20 mins and didnt even properly explain the difference, and introduced a couple of people who hold the "keys" to the internet. -_-
But random BBC technophobe rant over, back on topic;
It maybe true that PC sales are done, but then again it is a recession, so even with cheaper PCs its only logical that sales mabye down. And yes there is still a lot of potential for PC, for instance just compaire the graphics of the Xbox edition of BF3 to the PC one and see the huge graphical advantage the PC has.
The simple fact is when I built my Gaming PC I future proofed it to an extent, got it 3 and a half years ago, Quadcore processor 4GB of RAM and a 9600GT, since then the only thing I've had to upgrade is the GPU (up to a 260GTX last year), and whilst I won't be able to max everything with this spec, I'm not going to "have" to upgrade for at this rate, another 2 years, granted I'm going to get some new RAM since DDR2's cheap these days, but I can get a new heat sink for my Processor, OC it up to say 2.8GHZ, some new RAM, and that'll round up to £150 at most. and I've bought my computer at least 3 more years.
And the cause of this? This console generation isn't moving on, so PC gaming can't move on as much has it could be, it's like a gaming "dark ages" to an extent, we've mastered HD and we can run it all smoothly and effectively, look at this years shooter Titians as a well known example, BF3 has it's Frostbite 2.0 which is some ridiculous tech, and MW3 runs at 60fps (a tad pointless I know) but still just proof that we've mastered this level of tech.
I guarantee you the "PC" will reign supreme among gadgets when the new console generation comes out.
Afterthought: I'm more than happy to use a tablet/smartphone for all my every day fiddly bits I prefer a sizable touch screen to a full on PC for all that to an extent, however, gaming wise, that stuff can NEVER replace a gaming PC, with the fans going and all that power in the box beside you all your peripherals laid out convenient to you, screen(s), speakers.... it simply shouldn't be confined into one object, it ruins the depth and immersion to the experience that is PC gaming.
And the cause of this? This console generation isn't moving on, so PC gaming can't move on as much has it could be, it's like a gaming "dark ages" to an extent, we've mastered HD and we can run it all smoothly and effectively, look at this years shooter Titians as a well known example, BF3 has it's Frostbite 2.0 which is some ridiculous tech, and MW3 runs at 60fps (a tad pointless I know) but still just proof that we've mastered this level of tech.
I guarantee you the "PC" will reign supreme among gadgets when the new console generation comes out.
Afterthought: I'm more than happy to use a tablet/smartphone for all my every day fiddly bits I prefer a sizable touch screen to a full on PC for all that to an extent, however, gaming wise, that stuff can NEVER replace a gaming PC, with the fans going and all that power in the box beside you all your peripherals laid out convenient to you, screen(s), speakers.... it simply shouldn't be confined into one object, it ruins the depth and immersion to the experience that is PC gaming.
PC still has a long time with us. At least I personally hope it does. As for what that guy said, meh. Only time will tell really. Until I can mod on a 360/PS3 as much as I can on PC, PC>Consoles.
Obvious BBC Troll is obvious.
The world wide web came after laptops did it?
Would you like to provide any evidence for line 4?
Two companies who want their name in a report say "oooh, this looks bad".
Pointless, prevaricating piffle.
The world wide web came after laptops did it?
Would you like to provide any evidence for line 4?
Two companies who want their name in a report say "oooh, this looks bad".
Pointless, prevaricating piffle.