"Be a man, Grow a pair!"

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Doclector

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Right, before I start, if anyone posts that damn mulan song, I'll go mental. That earworm's up there with ducktales...

Right, I was out last night, and quite drunk. I was walking home with my friends who were also drunk. I have an odd laugh that sometimes comes out at the end of my sentences. One of my friends brings up the fact that it'll stop me getting a girlfriend. I bring up the fact that being ugly and mentally odd to say the least, that's hardly the biggest problem. He says my biggest problem is that I don't try, I say I'm happier not trying, constant rejection is the only probable outcome, and it's one real good way to kill every bit of confidence I have spent so long building.

So, when we come to the part on the walk where I split off to go home, he says I have to jump over a little fence near the traffic lights, instead of taking the extra second to go around it. I try a little, but then I say sod it and go around. He starts complaining about how this makes me less of a man and somehow links into my lack of sexual success. It makes me less of a man to spend a while trying to get over a fence, than walking around it in less time. Drunk logic. Or at least I hope it was the drink talking.

But it does get me thinking, what makes a man, when have you truly grown a pair? And I'm not just talking manliness, I'm talking...well, having balls in the metaphorical sense, in the sense that even a girl can have balls, being ballsy. Okay, I've used that word too much now, but I don't really know how else to say it.

TL DR: What do you have to do to have "grown a pair?"

I think when you can stand in front of the world, and do what you want regardless of how long it'll take, how hard it will be, or how many people disapprove, that's when you've grown a pair.
 

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'Grow a pair' is just a term that comes from pre-conceived gender rules. Same as 'don't be a *****/pussy/etc...' I wouldn't take it too much to heart. There's a lot of pressure on men to adhere to the 'rules' of being manly and it's silly, especially if you end up climbing over fences rather than just going around it (Something I would associate with stupidity, rather than masculinity).

I think growing a pair is when you can do whatever it is you want to do (regardless of these gender rules) and be comfortable and happy in your decision. Don't let the fence-climbers get you down.
 

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Colour-Scientist said:
'Grow a pair' is just a term that comes from pre-conceived gender rules. Same as 'don't be a *****/pussy/etc...' I wouldn't take it too much to heart. There's a lot of pressure on men to adhere to the 'rules' of being manly and it's silly, especially if you end up climbing over fences rather than just going around it (Something I would associate with stupidity, rather than masculinity).

I think growing a pair is when you can do whatever it is you want to do (regardless of these gender rules) and be comfortable and happy in your decision. Don't let the fence-climbers get you down.
Nah, it's fine, the only thing that got me down is the possibility my friends might be morons. It just got me thinking, y'know?
 

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Doclector said:
But it does get me thinking, what makes a man, when have you truly grown a pair?

What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms?

Just 'cause she has big titties?

Or is it the way, he fights every day?

No, it's probably the titties.

Doclector said:
I think when you can stand in front of the world, and do what you want regardless of how long it'll take, how hard it will be, or how many people disapprove, that's when you've grown a pair.
Doubt many people ever grow a pair, then. That whole "fuck the world, I'll do it my way!" attitude is incredibly rare, despite how many people like to think of themselves as having it.

I'd say it's when you can look after yourself. Get a job, move into your own place, function as a member of society. Do all the responsible stuff like trying to include vegetables in your meals, going to bed because you know you have to work the next day, washing your clothes before they start to reek, cleaning the house occasionally. I'd call that growing up, and while I wouldn't say I'm good at it (I didn't get to bed until 2AM and I'm posting this from work with a hangover :p) I'm at least trying, and I'd call that an indicator of adulthood.

I don't need to pick fights, bench-press a truck, down 15 pints or shag a hundred women to prove I've got a pair. I'm capable of taking care of myself, and considering how many people my age (mid-twenties) I know who really aren't, I'd say that makes me a man.
 

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I think it does exist to some degree, not entirely social gender rules. But it's flexible.

Just taking responsibility for your actions, bills, etc. Sometimes taking risks (your friends were probably trying to get you to jump the fence because they find it more fun than walking, and wanted you to feel the same).
 

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Doclector said:
Nah, it's fine, the only thing that got me down is the possibility my friends might be morons. It just got me thinking, y'know?
I don't recommend adopting the 'holier than thou' position with your friends. That person is rarely fun to be around.
 

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I have had it set to me im about as unmanly as you can get without being gay... fun times. Yet i'm fine with this i don't really care about not being manly currently sat in work in a tiger onesie.

Well it is christmass.
 

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Colour-Scientist said:
Doclector said:
Nah, it's fine, the only thing that got me down is the possibility my friends might be morons. It just got me thinking, y'know?
I don't recommend adopting the 'holier than thou' position with your friends. That person is rarely fun to be around.
I didn't tell them of the possibility, but I suspected it.

Rastien said:
I have had it set to me im about as unmanly as you can get without being gay... fun times. Yet i'm fine with this i don't really care about not being manly currently sat in work in a tiger onesie.

Well it is christmass.
Onesies are gorram awesome, so I'd say you're okay with that one.
 

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I find it ironic that your friend thinks that being a man and "growing a pair" means following his orders.

Being a grown-up means taking care of yourself - earning your own money, paying your own way, looking after your own self and contributing to the world. That's so much more desirable than some abstract machismo-filled idea of testicular fortitude.
 

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99% of the time that term is used when what they mean is 'why aren't you doing what I think you should?'

It's most often used because it's extremely effective.. most guys are so hell bent on proving they're ultra macho tough men that when someone suggests that if they don't do something it's because they're not manly they'll generally rush to prove them wrong - think peer preasure on steriods.

It's all utter crap.. yes, there are times when backing down and not doing something could very well be considered unmanly - for example if you were to wander along at night and see some poor girl being sexually assaulted but elect to 'not get involved' rather than stopping it - or at the very least calling the police - then you indeed a little girl who needs to grow a pair. And also shoot yourself.

If instead you and I were wandering along and I decided I wanted to steal a stop sign and you were to tell me I was an idiot and elect to 'not get involved' and leave me to be stupid - that's not you being unmanly, it's you making a decision not to commit a felony.. and fair enough.. I decided to do something silly, you don't need to be involved if you don't want to.

In your case, your friend was being a dick.
 

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I always thought growing a pair was about doing what you want when you want, without compromising your morals or values, because, you know, it's your life and your choices. But if your acting out of fear or inadaquacey you should probably overcome that so you can achieve what you want.
 

Nickolai77

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Yeah, your friend's saying your not sufficiently behaving "like a man", probably because he sees you as not having much confidence, cowardly, and not trying hard enough to get laid.

In one sense he's right, if you do want to get laid/get a gf, generally speaking you need to conform to male gender expectations that women find that attractive. It sucks though if being "man enough" doesn't come to you naturally and you'd rather be yourself. That said, it's not impossible to find someone and still be yourself, it's just unfortunate if yourself is not sufficiently masculine.

As for the term "grow a pair", i'd suggest it relates to male gender expectations such as confidence, assertiveness, decisiveness, leadership, bravery and honour. These are male gender traits which women find attractive, hence why he said you needed to grow a pair.

Really, it's a load of bollocks (pardon the pun) that men are expected to behave like this in order to get laid- but hey, it's the way nature's made men and women... and there is no justice in nature.
 

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?Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding?
― Betty White

this quote seemed appropriate for this thread :p
 

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While the phrase is very much a troll statement intended to provoke, it isn't without some truth, that being "you lack confidence".

Your friend might have a very ape like approach to discussion but he has a point.
See to attract a partner and to keep the relationship going you need two things, first a bucket load of confidence and then the will to push through adversities, that fence jumping example is silly but it very well outlines you are coming short on both those things.

Now if you want to attain those things or not is completely up to you, but without them you will be coming short in the dating game.
As for the "ugly and odd" handicap, I got a mate who is about half my height, near bald and quite fat but he can charm the panties off anything he sets his mind to, so trust me those things are not an issue.
 

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I don't take it seriously, and anyone who uses it seriously should think about it. I just use it as a light-hearted encouragement for a friend to do something. Note light-hearted, I don't start beating him up over it.
 

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Made me think of that Simpsons epispde where Marge joins the police force. Instead of just going through the door, she tries to climb over the wall. Not very logical.

Don't let it get you down, I walk around fences all the time.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

And since Make a Man Out of You has been posted, here's the other song you asked for. Merry Christmas :)