Best and worst retconns?

[mattttherman3]

The title says it, what are the best and worst for you?

Best: Bringing Goku back to life after Cell in DBZ, therefore, making him the star of the show again. Why? I fucking hate Gohan, I personally think Mr. Sayaman was invented just so the writers could bring the Gohan fans on board with the eventual Goku resurrection.

Worst: Mwu La Flagga's survival, or resurrection, whatever you call it. I'm sorry, but when your Gundam is blown up, AND your helmet blown off in an explosion IN SPACE, you're as dead as you can get. His death sucked because he was the best character on the show besides Andrew Waltfield. Bringing him back was ridiculous, they didn't even try to explain how he survived.(don't give me crap about this either, especially the best in the show part. This will sum up my dislike of kira:"FLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY *SOB* *SOB* *SOB* *SOB*. The english dub on this show was literally the worst dubbing I've seen too.

 

[mattttherman3]

Umm okay. I guess The Marvel Retconn of the pheonix was kinda bad. It totally undid all the damage done in the Dark Pheonix Saga.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

To me it was...

Spoiler

Tony Almeyda's death/resurrection in 24. Finding out he survived was both the best and the worst retcon, in my childhood's opinion. It was the best because, hey, he didn't die after all. It was also the worst because he became the bad guy

 

[mattttherman3]

To me it was...

Spoiler

Tony Almeyda's death/resurrection in 24. Finding out he survived was both the best and the worst retcon, in my childhood's opinion. It was the best because, hey, he didn't die after all. It was also the worst because he became the bad guy

That was done either by lazy writting or because everyone was pissed with the deaths in season 5. I know I wad

 

[Queen Michael]

Best one: Ressurecting Bucky. I can't believe it worked as well as it did.

Worst: X-Men: Deadly Genesis. So the first mission of the modern X-Men didn't really happen? There was a third Summers brother? Professor X is a jerk? Ugh. It's pretty darn weird that these were made by the very same person as the Bucky one.

 

[Thunderous Cacophony]

The Best: Easily Team Fortress 2. OK, there might not have been a lot of plot to work with in the beginning, but Valve did a great job in working in backstories through the online comics, and changed up some (like the Demoman)that weren't working, or for convenience.

That and Warhammer 40,000. People decide they don't want Space Dwarfs? OK, the entire race got eaten by Tyranids.

The Worst: Toss-up between Sherlock Holmes and One More Day (the Spider-Man comic). Sherlock got Moriarty, but fell off the Reichenbach Falls; a decent end. However, when Doyle decided to write more after fan outrage, he choose some hokey "I only pretended to be dead to draw out my enemies" rather than have the sacrifice mean something and tell stories from earlier on in Holmes' career that had only been hinted at.

And One More Day? Someone FINALLY has the balls to move Peter Parker's life along (he's out in public, he gets married, Aunt May dies) and they decide to drag him back into the old mire. A spoiled opportunity if there ever was one.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Best: Aquaman in the new 52.

The new Tomb Raider...more a remake than a retcon but I'm counting it here since it makes Lara a more compelling character (from what I've seen).

Worst: DC Comics reboot killing off Lian Harper...or making it so that she never existed...I agree with Linkara in that Arsenal/Red Arrow/Roy Harper was more compelling and interesting as a single father.

The Ultimates made my blood boil...volume 1 was the team assembling, Banner going Hulk and attempting to rape his ex. Meanwhile Hank Pym went from being distant with his wife to straight up trying to kill her using bug spray and, ants.

Sonic the Hedgehog. Just...Sonic the Hedgehog. Not a single chili-dog in sight.

Using Heat-Syncs as a way to limit ammunition in Mass Effect 2 when it was established that standard guns had near unlimited ammo in the original.

 

[JLML]

Wait? Retcons? Good? I think that a retcon can never be good. When you ignore what you wrote, you clearly weren't thinking ahead. that's just bad planning/writing.

How about if someone else wrote a previous part of the storyline and was a complete idiot who didn't follow any of the rules that had been established beforehand? Wouldn't calling that entire part "a dream" or something be a good retcon, since it removes the bad/stupid stuff from the storyline/series?

 

[Queen Michael]

The Ultimates made my blood boil...volume 1 was the team assembling, Banner going Hulk and attempting to rape his ex. Meanwhile Hank Pym went from being distant with his wife to straight up trying to kill her using bug spray and, ants.

That's not really a retcon. It's more of an alternate version.

 

[boradam]

To me it was...

Spoiler

Tony Almeyda's death/resurrection in 24. Finding out he survived was both the best and the worst retcon, in my childhood's opinion. It was the best because, hey, he didn't die after all. It was also the worst because he became the bad guy

I kind of liked him being a bad guy, despite it being pretty much out of the blue.

When we were watching that season my family decided to pause the video, rewind, and keep replaying it because we recognized his actor's name on the opening credits.

IT WAS MIND BLOWING

 

[VoidWanderer]

I think the retcon regarding Parallax and the emotional spectrum was masterfully conceived.

 

[Tombsite]

Best:
Spectacular spiderman. Fantastic animated show that got cut down all to early due to Disney buying marvel. Ultimate soiderman is a VERY poor replacement.

Worst:
Reboot of Blue beetle in the new 52. The original run was fun charming and fresh. The new one just want to stick to the old and boring tropes (biggest one being, not telling your family about your powers) ugh.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Best: Han Solo's Kessel Run

The oft quoted "Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs" gaff had a nice explanation and conclusion in the Expanded Universe. It embraced the idea of shaving distance off the trip rather than time, by making the Kessel Run skim along the treacherous region of space next to the Maw, a cluster of artificial black holes. Han Solo dived the Falcon into a fucking black hole and made it out alive. That is awesome.

Worst: Barriss Offee's Peace Solution

Barriss Offee was a Jedi in the Clone Wars. She was described as a hot headed fighter, but a skilled healer who learned compassion working with the Mobile Surgical Units treating wounded Clone Troopers. She was the center of a great episode of the Tartakovsky miniseries, where she and her master fought off a horde of cloaked droids inside a cavern full of lightsaber crystals.

Then Clone Wars Season 5 happened. Barriss, who until this point in the show had been shown as nothing more than a peaceful Jedi who believed in doing the right thing, sets off a bomb in the Jedi Temple, murdering several of her friends and clone troopers, before planting the blame on Ahsoka Tano, her best friend.

That alone is an appalling use of her character, but when her reasoning was explained, I got furious. Apparently, the reason for her bombing stunt was to show the Jedi Council that they had lost their way and embraced violence. So the obvious answer to their supposed corruption is to meet violence with violence. What!?

How the fuck do you go from a calm healer to a babbling psychopath whose logic could be picked apart by a five year old? Well you do it because you have no idea what to do with your supporting characters, so you pick one at random for these moronic situations.