shadowsoul222 said:
alright so what about like...the hyper realistic games like Forza and Grand Tourismo?
I almost snorted my tea. None of those are hyper realistic in any way. Sadly though, those are as realistic as it gets on console. Don't get me wrong though, I do love my GT5 to bits. It's just not a true sim.
If you're after real sims, go for the PC: Live for Speed [www.lfs.net], rFactor [http://www.rfactor.net/], iRacing [http://www.iracing.com/] or NetKar Pro [http://www.netkar-pro.com/] are great.
And there is a little obscure gem for the PS2: Enthusia. While not as graphically polished or as huge contentwise as GT4, it's driving physics is really great.