Just something to know going into my posts, when I praise the "depth and style of DMC" I'm generally talking about the 3rd game. The first game was revolutionary in it's own right, but 3 blows it out of the water in terms of weapons, scenarios, and boss fights. I generally deny the existence of two, but if we had to make that mistake to get to 3, then it was all worth it. 4 is a pretty big step backwards overall, but the weapons are nice and the demon bosses are kinda cool.
Foolproof said:
Mysnomer said:
It is not the pinnacle of it's genre, with an iconic and charismatic main character. Devil May Cry 3 is all these things, until something knocks it off it's throne
Hi man from before 2005. I mean, thats the only possible explanation for how you could have not known that God of War has already decapitated and dethroned Devil May Cry as the true king of the Hack and Slash genre.
Hello, uneducated gamer who thinks Devil May Cry is a mere hack and slash game and not the pioneer of the Spectacle Fighter genre (I'm really glad Yahtzee coined this term, it encompasses everything so neatly). Sure, there are elements of hack & slash, but the emphasis on chaining different combinations to create a stylistic flow sets it apart from God of War and Dante's Inferno with a mere "combo counter" measuring how fast you can move from one enemy to another and start mashing their face in. You could play DMC like a hack & slash, but by forgoing style and optimization, you'd be missing out on the majority of the depth and complexity of the gameplay. You would also be unable to complete the game on higher difficulty levels.
DmC Dante is a storm of controversy, and a terrible choice.
Sure he is. Just like Daniel Craig as James Bond, who up until the day the movie came out, people decried as the WORST BOND EVAR. And oh look, DMC isn't out, and you have no grounds to judge this Dante on.
Please don't attempt to replace me with a straw man. The knee-jerk reaction of people over an odd casting choice have little to do with reasoned discourse over sweeping changes in style, design and characterization. There is plenty to judge this Dante on. From Tameem's inept defense of his redesign, to the smoking scene, to his limp-wristed gunplay, we have quite a bit to work with. We can even look at their backpedaling attempt to appease people who complained about the color of his hair. If they were really so confident in their redesign, why the sudden change? What we can't judge is the gameplay, which I made allowances for in my criticisms.
Even if DmC is a technically competent game, it will never be a good game overall.
Thats some brilliant bullshitting there. Making it look like you're being even handed with the game, but refusing to imagine it will be more than competent.
Have you ever played a Ninja Theory game? I'm being pretty generous. The only thing they seem to be any good at is characterization. And yet, they've already proven they don't want to maintain Dante's character, but rather replace him with their own pseudo-Dante. Now, the true talent at NT will probably shine through, meaning there will be probably be some decent dialogue, maybe a genuinely human moment or two, but they're still working with slag, instead of refined ore. Garbage in, garbage out, that's how I see it.
Think Star Wars prequels, maybe they're fun to watch because the action is cool, or they show you glimpse of this fantastic world. But measured as whole films, they are awful. I won't say you're a bad person if you like enjoy playing schlock (guilty pleasures, y'know?), but why would you actively advocate for schlock over a quality, complete game?
You want to talk fucking schlock? How about the game where a guy shoots cue balls into his enemies with a single bullet? Thats some crap right there.
Over the top =/= schlock. Schlock is cheap and disposable entertainment. Devil May Cry may look like a brainless action film, but has great depth to it. Also, the choreography for those scenes is slick, and a lot of what happens is genuinely creative. Yeah, "...LIIIIIIGHT!" is pretty corny, but what about DMC3? I think the corniest scenes in that are "JACKPOT!" and some of the drama surrounding Lady. Also, Dante has an Oedipus Complex, so even if the voice acting is bad, there's nothing really wrong with the scene.
In closing, if you really want to bring down DMC, you have to find fault with 3, because that's the best one. If you want to convince me that DmC won't be a complete and utter bastardization, you'll have to find candid dialogue from Ninja Theory expressing hopes and concerns that let me know they are genuine people who understand Devil May Cry and want to make the best game possible, as opposed to a soulless shill that hashes out a game because they were commissioned. I do not begrudge you your enthusiasm, only your naivete.
