Bethesda "Not Interested" in Large Scale Publishing

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DataSnake said:
I hadn't heard about that. Do you have a link?
links aplenty:
http://www.destructoid.com/predation-bethesda-tried-to-buy-human-head-255483.phtml
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/05/what-went-wrong-with-human-heads-prey-2
http://67.227.255.239/forum/showthread.php?p=64532986

A summarised version of what went down:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=60536433&postcount=71
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
cidbahamut said:
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Except even when you do focus on just the one or two games they still end up bugged to hell.
Doesn't matter when they fly off shelves, are loved anyway and you embrace the modding community so they patch half the bugs for you.

I fully support Bethesda's approach. It's like my grandfather used to say, "If something is worth doing, it's worth doing right".
What of the people who buy the console versions?
Don't make such poor decisions?
No poor decisions don't come into this, not when consoles have a valid reason to exist and putting a not so shitty game onto them is meant to be the norm and priority.

"Don't make poor decisions" is nowhere near an excuse for beth to carry on making more buggier games compared to the millions out there that have done better.
Should Bethesda do everything they can to squash bugs before release? Of course.

Are you an idiot for buying a Bethesda game on a console instead of the PC? Absolutely.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. Bethesda should step up its game, but you as a consumer should also be making better decisions.
So basically you're calling out every console user for having bought any bethesda game ever as a complete pleb?, I'm sure that'l make sense to those not using or owning a console but being an apparent twit for buying something that should work is still the fault of the creator not the customer.

I'm sorry mate but I just can't see how blaming customers for buying something that should work making any sense even at all.

It would be like me calling you an absolute fucktard for buying a burnt and charred bacon sandwich when it really wasn't your fault at all, it was the one who cooked it that was at fault entirely.
Kinda agree with you both.
It's not your fault the game is buggy as hell, but it is your fault if you've bought previous Bethesda games.
You know of the bug problems, so you should at least learn to wait ages for it to become reasonably playable.
After I bought Oblivion on release on console, I've never touched a Bethesda(Obsidian) game again on release and definitely not on console.

Oh and yes, you are a absolute fucktard for buying a burnt and charred bacon sandwich for a second time.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 

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Hey Bethesda, you know what you could do to make a lot of money? Make Fallout 4. You don't have to rush it, but at the very least you could tell us if you're actually doing it, and if you are when you are expecting it.
 

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erttheking said:
Hey Bethesda, you know what you could do to make a lot of money? Make Fallout 4. You don't have to rush it, but at the very least you could tell us if you're actually doing it, and if you are when you are expecting it.
I actually want them to announce Fallout 4 in the next VGAs like they did with Skyrim: Kill the lights, put up some smoke, and bring in six dudes in Brotherhood of Steel Power Armor and just let them stand there while they show the trailer. That would make my year.
 

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
cidbahamut said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Except even when you do focus on just the one or two games they still end up bugged to hell.
Doesn't matter when they fly off shelves, are loved anyway and you embrace the modding community so they patch half the bugs for you.

I fully support Bethesda's approach. It's like my grandfather used to say, "If something is worth doing, it's worth doing right".
What of the people who buy the console versions?, mods surely don't save them and it still becomes beth's fault in the end.

Also expecting modders to fix the game just makes the game itself being made pointless from the devs side since they should be working to fix the game not us.
Mods were the best and the worst thing that could have happened to ES games in my opinion.

After Morrowind where they saw the immense amount of dedication and work users would put into making and fixing content, it seems Beth have unofficially used it as a crutch.
 

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Good for them. It's nice to see another studio like Rockstar focusing on making a few good games rather than flooding the market with more spunkgargleweewee. Now if only they'd hire better QA teams... i mean i know glitches are inevitable on games as large as Fallout and The Elder Scrolls, but i'd like to be able to play a game without it crashing whenever i use a key game function, NEW VEGAS V.A.T.S!
 

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
So basically you're calling out every console user for having bought any bethesda game ever as a complete pleb?, I'm sure that'l make sense to those not using or owning a console but being an apparent twit for buying something that should work is still the fault of the creator not the customer.

I'm sorry mate but I just can't see how blaming customers for buying something that should work making any sense even at all.

It would be like me calling you an absolute fucktard for buying a burnt and charred bacon sandwich when it really wasn't your fault at all, it was the one who cooked it that was at fault entirely.
If you don't do hours upon hours of research before you buy something, it's entirely your fault. Clearly.
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Shadow-Phoenix said:
cidbahamut said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Except even when you do focus on just the one or two games they still end up bugged to hell.
Doesn't matter when they fly off shelves, are loved anyway and you embrace the modding community so they patch half the bugs for you.

I fully support Bethesda's approach. It's like my grandfather used to say, "If something is worth doing, it's worth doing right".
What of the people who buy the console versions?
Don't make such poor decisions?
So buying the console version of a game because you thought (rightly) that there would be no difference from the PC version is a poor decision? Because other than letting modders fix the buggy games Bethesda put out, there really isn't.

You also directly contradicted yourself. What your grandpappa should have said was "If it's worth doing... It's worth letting the plebs fix."

cidbahamut said:
You people are putting words in my mouth. I'm not saying that they rely on fans patching the game for them. I'm saying that respecting your audience and embracing the modding community rather than ignoring it or actively discouraging it has beneficial side effects.

If you can't see how that's a good thing then you're being willfully ignorant.
When you say "you're an idiot for buying the console version that the modders can't touch, because they ended up fixing half the damn thing", of COURSE people are going to 'misinterpret' what you mean. If you can't see how you're bringing upon yourself, then you're being, well...

Embracing the modding community is all well and good, but you're essentially insulting everyone who didn't pick the version that allows that since you get a bugged up game that can't be fixed. That's just plain fucked up and arrogant, because 'fixing the game' isn't something you want to credit people outside the development team for, not to mention the fact that some people would rather have a work computer and a console rather than a gaming computer.

Captcha: half done.

Now that you mention it, captcha, I went on Google quickly and guess what? It seems that the console versions CAN be modded, so this was a massive waste of time for all parties, but fuck it, I'm posting this damn thing anyway because I've already used my daily effort allowance writing it.

Good day and good riddance to the lot of you.