Bethesda Says Mojang's Scrolls Infringes on Elder Scrolls Mark

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k-ossuburb

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James Charles said:
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Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
OT: on this i can kinda see beth's point their might be some confusion due to it baring a kinda similar name, this does seem like a pointless endevour, they could have if they cared that much for notch to change its name to i dunno Tomb or summit.
But if he changed it to "Tomb" then whoever is helming the latest S.S. Lara Croft project is going to sue him too.

I'm actually glad you said that, because that was what my point was going to be. Since there are millions of games out there now, it's pretty much impossible to have a game title that doesn't share at least one word with at least one other game.

I mean, Capcom has Darkstalkers and Vigil has Darksiders, you didn't see Capcom getting all up in arms about people getting confused between the titles. I know this is hyperbole, but it's pretty much the same thing. They're both different games and one has been around for a lot longer than the other has, only an idiot couldn't tell the difference between the two.
 

Darknacht

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James Crook said:
No_Remainders said:
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I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?

OT: Dear Bethesda,

Fuck off and die. First they pull the bullshit with Interplay claiming that the packaging of Interplay's FO and FO2 box confused people with FO3 (which was utter bullshit), now this?

Really?
Woah, simmer down, it's not Bethesda's fault but their lawyers >:p
Bethesda's lawyers represent them, when their lawyers act like assholes it is Bethesda acting like assholes.
From now on I guess everyone has to name their games with a random series of letters to avoid using words anyone else has used.
 

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So according to bethsheda, Scrolls can't be used in any videogames ever now? Sorry Ninja Gaiden and Final Fantasy and every rpg not in space ever.
 

RA92

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weker said:
Again as I posted on CVG most people will side with notch because he is the under dog.
Many people know elder scrolls as scrolls and if Bethesda are doing I doubt it's because they want to hurt notch.
Law is the law after all.
Are you fucking kidding me? What you're claiming is that Bethesda has the word 'scrolls' patented.
 

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My point -still- , nearly a page after the fact, being that I have no reason or obligation to explain my opinion to people who cannot use GOOGLE of all things.
I've never bent to any silly social pressure. Including memes, Facebook, twittering. Certainly not going to start -now-.

Off-topic on-topic random thought : holy christ what if they actually hired that guy to do something in\ for Skyrim . Or if this gave him the idea to code a dragon into minecraft.
You aren't getting what they're saying, 'Notch is lazy' is not a objective fact, its your opinion, how the hell are they supposed to get your opinion off google? There is plenty of people who think Notch is lazy, for lots of different reasons, but why do you think he is? You stated your opinion without any reasons for it, so when you were asked you should've either gave your personal reasons, or ignored him; not bit his head off and acted like he was 'badgering' you.

I discussed that I hate Notch because he's lazy [and he is], and you don't beleive me.
You didnt discuss Notch, you said you hated Notch. Their is a difference.

I've never bent to any silly social pressure. Including memes, Facebook, twittering. Certainly not going to start -now-.
I have no freakin idea what Twitter has to do with not wanting any discussion on a discussion forum.

O.T. I don't play Minecraft, but this is just silly. Don't they realise how Cobra-esque this makes them look?
 

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Will they stop sueing everyone for everything? They're doing the same thing to Interplay, constantly failing and being denied. Nobody will look at a game called Scrolls and thing: Jee willikers, this must be The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, there's no way this could be an unrelated game with one word of the title being the same.
 

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Darknacht said:
James Crook said:
No_Remainders said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?

OT: Dear Bethesda,

Fuck off and die. First they pull the bullshit with Interplay claiming that the packaging of Interplay's FO and FO2 box confused people with FO3 (which was utter bullshit), now this?

Really?
Woah, simmer down, it's not Bethesda's fault but their lawyers >:p
Bethesda's lawyers represent them, when their lawyers act like assholes it is Bethesda acting like assholes.
From now on I guess everyone has to name their games with a random series of letters to avoid using words anyone else has used.
But all lawyers are assholes...
Yeah I just found the video clip :D
 

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Pessimist said:
By realizing I MENTIONED people share this view if you just ask them.
Also, googling for "notch is lazy" will probably bring you to posts, or even videos explaining why better than a guy who never played minecraft can.
I'm being vindictive, not unfair =3
What people? You´re assuming I will luck out and find the people that share the exact same view as you and that I then can draw the line that it was what you mean?!

Just give your argument for why he is lazy and smug and stop digging yourself deeper in the ground
 

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weker said:
Again as I posted on CVG most people will side with notch because he is the under dog.
Many people know elder scrolls as scrolls and if Bethesda are doing I doubt it's because they want to hurt notch.
Law is the law after all.
No, most people know it as The Elder Scrolls series, so there's very little way of confusing the two. Unless Bethesda have then intention of anyone using the words 'Elder'or 'Scrolls' in a title, they should back off. I don't think you can copyright a word, if you could then this would apply something like 'Worst Witch' or 'Red Ridding Hood'.

OT:
This is bs, unless it has something to do with the content rather than the title.
 

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The naming similarity seems so minor, compared to other games with similar titles like God of War and Gears of War. Also whoever made the first thing with the word "The" in it should now sue everything ever that has that word "The" in it.(Sarcasm voice)
 

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kebab4you said:
Pessimist said:
By realizing I MENTIONED people share this view if you just ask them.
Also, googling for "notch is lazy" will probably bring you to posts, or even videos explaining why better than a guy who never played minecraft can.
I'm being vindictive, not unfair =3
What people? You´re assuming I will luck out and find the people that share the exact same view as you and that I then can draw the line that it was what you mean?!

Just give your argument for why he is lazy and smug and stop digging yourself deeper in the ground
Leave the guy alone, he clearly doesn't like working to prove a point.
Although he'll happily argue the point that he doesn't need to argue a point with evidence for another two pages 0.o

OT: This is stupid, I may sue Bethesda because they have an s in their name and so do I. I'm going to be rich.
 

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if so many ppl thought Notch was a lazy and deserving hate, you'd think at least one other person would've agreed with you in this thread.
 

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Im looking forward to Mojangs next Project 'The Oldest parchment: airledge'
I lolled. Kudos sir. Id buy that.

Ridiculous. You cant trademark such a common noun as "scroll", thats insane.
 

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Andy Chalk said:

Some guy named cityeyes over the twitter stuff commented, posted a link of the trans for that photo and it apparently roughly says this: Really, insanely rough, inaccurate, and fragmented translation run through OCR software and then put through Google translate. There are a lot of words missing, but for the most part, you can fill in the blanks.


My principal creates and publishes interactive entertainment on platforms including TV, game consoles and handheld: treeless (wireless?) units. The company has a long and successful history, and is behind several award-winning games, including the world famous game series (The brand THE ELDER SCROLL) is protected concerns include + ALI entertainment goods and services, appears, then including computer and video games. In the EU, is my principal including the holders of registered Community trade marks with registration number 2840098 and 8283161.

It has come to my principal's knowledge that Mojang AB ("Mojang"), users can sign SCROLL in the marketing of an upcoming computer and/or video game. The sign SCROLL exhibits significant visual, aural and conceptual similarities with my principal brand The Elder Scrolls. These similarities, strengthened by the fact that in the entertainment industry, including computer games industry, are cases that goods and services with a common commercial origin are marketed under the characteristics that are constructed from a common brand elements. For example, the company Nintendo's world famous Mario series of games titles like Mario Brothers. and Super Mario Bros or company Blizzard's Warcraft series of games titles that feature Orcs and Humans and World of Warcraft. There is thus an obvious risk of an average consumer to get the idea that the goods and / or services provided under the sign SCROLL and The Elder Scrolls are from the same commercial origin or at least from economically-linked undertaking. Against this background, it is our notion that the use of the sign SCROLL constitutes an infringement of my principal.


http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/j9ydw/notchs_letter_from_bethesda_in_swedish_translate/c2acsge




OT: I love Elder Scrolls, but I have a feeling that angry fans might be crashing into them soon...
 

BiscuitTrouser

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Pessimist said:
I'm doing no such thing. It's just your [invalid] opinion that I am.
More useless pressure to do something I don't care, or want to do and certainly don't NEED to do.
You are not important to me. If you cannot use Google, I feel sorry for you.

I "assume" nothing. If among X million people by entering "notch is lazy" or " notch sucks" into google you get nothing then that certainly isn't my problem - you would find something if you tried.

Now you can all just move on and try to bait someone else, because this stubborn bastard isn't caving >=3.
Sup, i googled notch is lazy. And i found this.

http://lokkazad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/NotchWorkEthic.png

This proves notch works very very very hard. It was the first result. What the hell lol?

Working for 2 years and a bit, taken 203 days off at random.

104 weekend days in a year, if he had taken normal weekends like everyone else he would have taken 208 break days not counting christmas or summer. He works harder than your average cubicle worker.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Sup, i googled notch is lazy. And i found this.

http://lokkazad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/NotchWorkEthic.png

This proves notch works very very very hard. It was the first result. What the hell lol?
Pessimist is probably just butt hurt because Notch fixed a bug in minecraft that he was exploiting. thats probably what happened.

Nothing screams "butt-hurt nerd" like irrational, unsupported hatred.
 
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No_Remainders said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?
He's just one those dicks who thinks that hating anything popular makes them better than us all.

Anyway, Bethesda "The Lawyer Part" or Bethesda "The Game-making Part", I've decided I'm just gonna buy Skyrim pre-owned. I'm not paying whatever w*nker thought this was a good idea.