Bethesda Says Mojang's Scrolls Infringes on Elder Scrolls Mark

[MrJKapowey]

I still won't care. Bethesda is still awesome.

Name even one product with Bethesda's name on it that wasn't buggy as hell. Heck, even Brink had it's fair share of bugs, and Bethesda only published that one. It's like they ruin games just by touching them.

The last two sentences I'm just going to ignore. They have no bearing on it in ANY way at all.

Well, I have bought 3 Bethesda products and in my opinion, all three of them had no bugs at all.

The only bug I ever had was not getting a map marker for a quest in FNV, the reason being that the marker SHOULD'VE directed me towards Helios One to speak with the Lt in charge. The had been killed by the plant defense system and was replaced by legionaries.

In other words, I have never encountered a bug which is above acceptable for a Bethesda game.

 

[robandall]

Absolutely ludicrous.

Have you trademarked the word "Scrolls"?
No, we haven't.
Go away.

Oh, on a side note -

Well, I have bought 3 Bethesda products and in my opinion, all three of them had no bugs at all.

Oh mate. I've had a lot of Bethesda games and I love them all but they're buggy as hell. Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas especially. I'm talking "how the f*ck did you let it ship with a blatant bug within first 10 minutes of gameplay?!" sort of bugs.

 

[5t3v0]

Absolutely ludicrous.

Have you trademarked the word "Scrolls"?
No
Get out

I'm sorry guys, I have to go off topic for a bit. I love your avatar. Good ol' Terry Tibs... Oh fonejacker...

 

[robandall]

Absolutely ludicrous.

Have you trademarked the word "Scrolls"?
No
Get out

I'm sorry guys, I have to go off topic for a bit. I love your avatar. Good ol' Terry Tibs... Oh fonejacker...

Bethesda suing Notch. Talk to me.

Everybody loves Terry Tibbs!

 

[Android2137]

I think a lot of this stems from how trademark law actually works.

If you don't actively enforce your trademark rights, you lose the trademark. Therefore it is safer to chase after anything that even remotely resembles infringement than to wait until a later date and hope you catch anything that is big enough to warrant trouble.

Basically, if Bethesda lets this slide without any trouble, and then next year some random person tries to make an "Elder Scrolls" game, they could cite Mojang's "Scrolls" as proof that Bethesda has not enforced, and therefore no longer has rights to their "Elder Scrolls" trademark.

Regardless of how much of a case Bethesda has, they have no choice but to take action in this situation. The outcome isn't important to Bethesda, as Mojang isn't stealing actual content nor trying to mask his game as one of theirs and therefore will not cause them any damage either way but the act of defending the trademark against something that could be remotely considered infringement is, however, very important to Bethesda.

What? Seriously? Geez! Why is trademark law written like that?

 

[Versuvius]

I dont have a great deal of opinion. If this is indeed unknowing copyright infringement wouldnt it be better to nip in the bud now than notice it later down the line when the games released, sold and then makes the claim? I love Bethesda, i like Mojang. This debacle is nothing new between big companies, it happens all the time. People frothing and announcing they are never going to buy a Beth' game again is peurile, silly and fucking childish. Get your head from up of Notch's ass too, that would be grand. Raging fanboying is just reducing the value of the thread.

Edit: Guy above me, quote of the outlined copyright law requirements to chasing up BS. Read it, stop foaming like rabid badgers.

Editedit: Lawl gamers trying to make out they know the law more than the lawyers. "Oh you can't do this unless you copyrighted X Y AND Z too!"

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

I still won't care. Bethesda is still awesome.

Name even one product with Bethesda's name on it that wasn't buggy as hell. Heck, even Brink had it's fair share of bugs, and Bethesda only published that one. It's like they ruin games just by touching them.

The last two sentences I'm just going to ignore. They have no bearing on it in ANY way at all.

Well, I have bought 3 Bethesda products and in my opinion, all three of them had no bugs at all.

The only bug I ever had was not getting a map marker for a quest in FNV, the reason being that the marker SHOULD'VE directed me towards Helios One to speak with the Lt in charge. The had been killed by the plant defense system and was replaced by legionaries.

In other words, I have never encountered a bug which is above acceptable for a Bethesda game.

In your opinion? What opinion? It's fact! Go look it up on any wiki for their games, it's right there in black and white (or whatever colors the wiki might use). Heck, in reading The Vault, most entries have numerous glitches that players might encounter in any given area. Just because you personally were lucky enough to avoid most of them doesn't mean they aren't there.

Seriously, don't just throw the word "opinion" around like it automatically makes your argument air-tight and irrefutable.

 

[Sixcess]

I'd laugh if Notch decided to fight it. It's not like he's short of cash.

Don't Bethesda have enough pointless legal drama already with the Fallout MMO?

 

[Hybridwolf]

Meh. If Beth persue this case, they'll be feeding more cash to their lawyers. After all, the only winners in Civil legal cases are the lawyers of both parties. Finsh up with Interplay, then reconsider taking on one of the most popular indie devs out there Beth. And make Fallout 4?

 

[UberNoodle]

That does it! I won't buy Skyrim until ... until ... it comes out.

 

[MrJKapowey]

I still won't care. Bethesda is still awesome.

Name even one product with Bethesda's name on it that wasn't buggy as hell. Heck, even Brink had it's fair share of bugs, and Bethesda only published that one. It's like they ruin games just by touching them.

The last two sentences I'm just going to ignore. They have no bearing on it in ANY way at all.

Well, I have bought 3 Bethesda products and in my opinion, all three of them had no bugs at all.

The only bug I ever had was not getting a map marker for a quest in FNV, the reason being that the marker SHOULD'VE directed me towards Helios One to speak with the Lt in charge. The had been killed by the plant defense system and was replaced by legionaries.

In other words, I have never encountered a bug which is above acceptable for a Bethesda game.

In your opinion? What opinion? It's fact! Go look it up on any wiki for their games, it's right there in black and white (or whatever colors the wiki might use). Heck, in reading The Vault, most entries have numerous glitches that players might encounter in any given area. Just because you personally were lucky enough to avoid most of them doesn't mean they aren't there.

Seriously, don't just throw the word "opinion" around like it automatically makes your argument air-tight and irrefutable.

Well, you did say 'Product'. If you meant game then yeah they are generally buggy, but the individual products I bought weren't buggy.

 

[Treblaine]

Hey, until Bethesda lawyers pointed this out did ANYONE notice the link between Scrolls and Skyrim?

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

Well, you did say 'Product'. If you meant game then yeah they are generally buggy, but the individual products I bought weren't buggy.

/facepalm

Yes, by "product" I meant "game", obviously. Bethesda is a video game developer, so any product that they release is going to be a game. Mind that the meaning of either word doesn't refer specifically to any one person's purchase. Just because you personally never experienced any bugs doesn't mean that your point is any-more valid just because I used the word "product". You're either reaching, or you some weird definitions of these words. First "opinion", then "product". You should really go buy yourself a dictionary.

 

[dmase]

If I where bethseda I'd watch out for the fans of minecraft. I hear those guys can build minecraft inside of minecraft.

 

[5t3v0]

well I'm not sure if it was a Beth Fanboy, but a while ago there was this article that was posted about "Why fallout 3 is better than new Vegas" and the guy who posted it said everything that was obviously his opinion as fact. Those 2 things were part of the list. All of his points were void by anyone who has any sense as well.

And the Extra Credits episode on Fallout New Vegas and amnesia stories (But again, thats not Beth fanboyism.). I love extra credits, but they showed a lot of ignorance with that video.

Well that was more targeted at those who love fallout 3 more and cite reasons that make no sense. They way I can see it, the only true argument about Fallout New Vegas being worse in an area is the stability, but even then that can be argued with the fact that NV ran different for different people, even on the same console/system and Fallout 3 being around the same with its stabiltiy for many users as well, just not as reported due to everyone being "Blown away"

I like how you say someone else is stupid for presenting opinion as fact, and then say that NV is undeniably better than FO3 and most reasons why it would be worse are undeniably wrong.

Okay, you got me there... I admit I was probably not thinking very neutrally there. But well tit for that I guess. But it just irks me the hatred New Vegas got by people who took one glance at it and wrote it off as a fallout 3 copy despite many aspects that they overlook.

 

[Fozza]

Let's hope it's not really Bethesda but their lawyers. Unless it is, I just lost alll my respect for them. ...

 

[PoweD]

If you are guys wondering why would anybody replace Skyrim with Scrolls, then i shall reefer you
to the millions of Blops buyers that thought that Activision made it.

 

[CRRPGMykael]

Wow this is REALLY weird,since a while ago,Todd Howard(the awesome director of Morrowind,Oblivion,Fallout 3 and Skyrim) and Notch had a long conversation/interview about Skyrim,Minecraft,etc.You can find it on Youtube,it's really cool if you're into listening to the 'creators' talk about their games and stuff like that.Todd said that the guys at Bethesda loved Minecraft and they talked about how Notch used to play Oblivion and they talked about Skyrim IN Minecraft and everything,so yeah.Wow...I hope Todd sorts this out because he IS in fact the only reason that I like Bethesda for.The rest of the company(the people who don't work on the games:the lawyers,presidents,etc) is just a bunch of retards,like it has been shown by the lawsuit.

 

[random_bars]

I'm not sure what he's implying about the name of the floating island dimension, but he'd better not refer to it as a 'sky'. Bethesda totally has a trademark on that word.

 

[AkaDad]

If this is indeed an infringement then Bethesda is well within their right to sue the pants off of "Mojang". The idea that the creator of MineCraft gets the crap legally beaten out of him only makes it that much sweeter.

Show me on the doll where the creators of Minecraft touched you.