BF:Bad Company

Serious_Stalin

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The Battlefield series has always been to me an original shooter game to which there are none other to compare, the playing ground is much larger than usual and they have so far managed to include all sorts of vechiles you would expect without making the whole thing ridiculously imbalanced. Battlefields big step into the console universe is no different.

Playing online you are given 5 different classes to choose from, all more useful in some circumstances than others, a new addition to the game is a larger inventory which can be unlocked. Unfortunately this inventory in some ways destroys the ideal of team play which has always been a large element in BF, it does this by giving classes such as the sniper and heavy machine gunner means of annihalating vechiles by calling in missiles and mortars on them. And so now it is possible for 4/5 classes to destroy vechiles.

The new game mode Gold Rush gives the attackers the aim to destroy 2 gold crates which the defenders are defending, once destroyed defenders then fall back to their next 2 gold crates. This makes the game much more face-paced than your usual battlefield game as only a small section of the map is being utilized at any point in time, this helps give the easily distracted minds of a console gamer some focus on what they are supposed to be shooting at.In some of the maps it feels very much like COD4 due to the lack of vechiles, however still to me more enjoyable due to the ability to blow holes in walls!

About blowing stuff up, its *blooming great. If your in a tank you can roll over tree's and drive through fences, if someones trying to hide in a building you can just blow the building down! Awesome! Some dubiousness with the destructable scenery though, my knife appears to be magical, I can knife a door open, a fence down, a dude in half. And yet if I shoot at said door/fence/dude it takes quite some time to blow it down even with the M60..

Bad Company have now given us Conquest mode from previous battlefield series back! I thought this would be good news having enjoyed the previous series. Unfortunately the maps do not feel particulary suited to the game mode, and not many people online seem to know how to defend a point once they have captured it, therefore making one game go on for ever, perhaps it is not the gamers fault but the 30 point incentive they have of capturing a flag and nil of defending one.

Oh and I should say I bought this game being very excited about the single player which hasn't been included reaally into other Battlefields.Unfortunately it is as if you are playing online against a bunch of idiots on some different bits of terrain. The characters aren't actually very funny like I was tricked into thinking by watching the previews and your own character is basically that guy from Jarhead.

Overall when I am not lagging (as I have been HORRENDOUSLY the past few days) the Gold Rush game mode is very fast paced and enjoyable, perhaps in time conquest will be good and the single player is lame lame lame.
 

milskidasith

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You really don't have to curse to get your point across, and you could have at least given a casual mention to the single player, but this was a pretty good read.

They finally got conquest mode out, BTW? That's nice, I might go play some more if I can pull away from the (far superior) TF2 or the gamer-lympics.
 

Acaroid

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well i still play BF:2142 because it isnt like cod4.... it is great that some maps are big enough you can go off and sneak into a capture point noone is deffending etc.... cod4 is all action no tact...

is it me or do console players just like "point shot, next, point shot, next, rinse repeat"

I hope they havent "consoled" battlefield to much.... that would make me sad....

but in the end LETS BLOW STUFF UP :D :D

yes i do enjoy and play cod4, but that is cod4, it is ment to be like that, i just dont want to play a bettlefield game and get cod4
 

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Acaroid said:
is it me or do console players just like "point shot, next, point shot, next, rinse repeat"
Sadly yes. Almost every console gamer is like that.
Thats why much of the fun is taken out of usually tactically deep games such as TF2 (Yes you can use tactics when playing it), BF:BC, etc.

This is one of the main reasons im going to try and ditch console gaming and become a pc gamer.
 

milskidasith

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The PC gaming community is pretty good from my limited experiences wading into it as a TF2 Pubber, though it's a good deal more fractionalized than console games. Whereas in console games the only difference between a "pro" player and an average person is unreal skill, acces to clans, and occasionally the pro has even more self righteousness oozing from him than anybody besides the people who claim they are pro's by using crap guns and camping where nobody goes and gleefully shouting about their noncalculatable kill death ratio of two zero), for PC gaming, because of servers, you can legitimatly find idiots just playing to gib stuff, mostly decent but quiet players, "casual competitive" players, who play to win but don't obssess over all the rules, etc.

In general, these things match up worse together than most bad combinations for consoles, but they are fragmented so you can pick WHICH overly-stereotyped-by-me niche you want to play with instead of getting a random and ear shattering assortment of those and worse in console games.

TL;DR: PC gaming has fragmented subcommunities for each game that get along. Console gaming is one big conglomorate that you can generally stereotype as a group.
 

Serious_Stalin

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Yeah it seems that most of the players on consoles are like that at the moment, I kind of blame the bad communication system on consoles, it must be better on the 360 where everyone has a mic, but on the PS3 only a few do, and those few tend to be the people who are either really really annoying or just leave their mic on ALL THE TIME accidentally, with no way of blocking peoples mics it makes gaming frustrating.

I don't think people should ditch online console gaming though as its so new compared to PC gaming and still has a lot of teething to do, some things i'd like to see are more games compatible with keyboard and mouse (UT3!!!) and better clan systems.

I wouldn't say that they have "consoled" the game its the users which give the online gaming a bad name :<.
 

AlexanderAstartes

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I really think more games need to introduce destructibility. I did think it was a little weird that there's no "Open" button for doors. Meh, explosions do.
 

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I found it to be a very "meh" game. Pretty fun online on the whole apart from the horrendous controls for flying and fighting inside a helicopter, the total uselessness of the laser painter (in single player also), the grenade launcher's appalling lack of damage when fired at a person, and the fact that the M16 seems to annihilate every other gun under the majority of circumstances.

Also the single player campaign probably wasn't worth the time they spent making it because it was pretty damn poor.

All that aside, the online combat is still very fun and the frostbite engine is a joy to mess about with, and brings a lot of new tactical elements into play when attacking or defending a gold crate.
 

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wewontdie11 post=326.68100.622305 said:
I found it to be a very "meh" game. Pretty fun online on the whole apart from the horrendous controls for flying and fighting inside a helicopter, the total uselessness of the laser painter (in single player also), the grenade launcher's appalling lack of damage when fired at a person, and the fact that the M16 seems to annihilate every other gun under the majority of circumstances.

Also the single player campaign probably wasn't worth the time they spent making it because it was pretty damn poor.

All that aside, the online combat is still very fun and the frostbite engine is a joy to mess about with, and brings a lot of new tactical elements into play when attacking or defending a gold crate.
I get at least three kills a game from the laser painter. the M16 is the best assault rifle and the Assault class is designed to be the most versatile class however the UMP for the specialist the berrata/svu snipers and the support class and the demolishion one shot one kill shotguns on the whole get a lot more kills than the assault players.
 

Inriri

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Gold Rush irritates me because it seems the team defending the gold wins a hell of a lot more than the other team.
 

Beatzdawg

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The singleplayer in this game was really boring. The enemies could see you from miles away and if you could be bothered to find the gold in the levels it seemed both tedious and obvious. If you look on the map the gold was always in a house miles away from where you are supposed to go. So it was tedious getting there and obvious that it was going to be there.

Multiplayer is great though, I have only ever been something that isn't a sniper about 4 times. One of them being the time when I tried glitching it for points. I wish I didn't do that now.
 

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Inriri post=326.68100.624791 said:
Gold Rush irritates me because it seems the team defending the gold wins a hell of a lot more than the other team.
that's because the majority of players just want a straight up team death match which is something Dice have never offered unfortunately
 

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Agreed Zirnitra people don't seem to understand the concept of limited resorces.
And since this is on the consoles it is being played by people who don't under stand tactics or basic squadplay.

Me and my BF; 2142 clan purchased it with egar anticipation hopeing to have a copy of 2142 with destrctable scenery, nicer graphics and no conection problems (2142 was an arse for that). But this is not as many ahve pointed out what we found. :(
 

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Inriri post=326.68100.624791 said:
Gold Rush irritates me because it seems the team defending the gold wins a hell of a lot more than the other team.
Mainly because half the time no one communicates at all. Or tries to link up with their squads.
 

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haketh post=326.68100.630883 said:
Mainly because half the time no one communicates at all. Or tries to link up with their squads.
Barely anyone has a B/T Headset.. Spawning with your squad isn't always the safest option and often makes you a very easy kill if you spawn in the middle of a firefight.
 

Furious George

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i found a little stragey: get those tnt things, put 1 on the crate, blow it up, do it agian, and again, and you get i believe 50 points for doing it, but i hate when someone sees im doing that, and walks up to it right when i blow it up
 

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Inriri post=326.68100.624791 said:
Gold Rush irritates me because it seems the team defending the gold wins a hell of a lot more than the other team.
Well, defending is overall easier, but you have to be able to "play both sides of the ball" so to speak. Many people can't.

Alotak post=326.68100.629752 said:
Agreed Zirnitra people don't seem to understand the concept of limited resorces.
And since this is on the consoles it is being played by people who don't under stand tactics or basic squadplay.

Me and my BF; 2142 clan purchased it with egar anticipation hopeing to have a copy of 2142 with destrctable scenery, nicer graphics and no conection problems (2142 was an arse for that). But this is not as many ahve pointed out what we found. :(
I blame EA

Serious_Stalin post=326.68100.631197 said:
haketh post=326.68100.630883 said:
Mainly because half the time no one communicates at all. Or tries to link up with their squads.
Barely anyone has a B/T Headset.. Spawning with your squad isn't always the safest option and often makes you a very easy kill if you spawn in the middle of a firefight.
A lot of people can't necessarily afford nice things, and many gamers below the level of "Serious" in online gaming often don't know better. And I thought people with mics on XBL were teh badness.

Furious George post=326.68100.756472 said:
i found a little stragey: get those tnt things, put 1 on the crate, blow it up, do it agian, and again, and you get i believe 50 points for doing it, but i hate when someone sees im doing that, and walks up to it right when i blow it up
Um, you mean C4? And sometimes it isn't tactically a good idea. Plant the explosive, then the blocks of C4.

I personally thought most of the jokes were pretty funny, and some of the level design was cool. But admittedly, the enemies were Farcry-ish. And the discoverable crap, without a rewards system, was mostly pointless.
 

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Blowing miscellaneous buildings up with explosives is reason alone to play this game...I found it fairly entertaining.