BF:BC 2, here we go again

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wwjdftw

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Hadnt had internet that I could use for online gaming for around a month, about a week ago I finnaly got it back and I got online to play some BF:BC 2 on my ps3. I was greeted by an update (start ominous banjo music here). I download the update, while its downloadign I scrape together some of the details of the update

"April 21st)
Increased the base range of all Automatic and Semiautomatic weapons for more consistent close range combat.
Slightly increased the damage of Semiautomatic rifles over long range for more consistent damage output.

Increased the zoomed burst accuracy of LMGs and decreased LMG accuracy when moving to reduce LMG run and gun.
Decreased the base damage of the M60 and XM8 LMGs to bring them in line with the other LMG damage values.
Decreased the damage of the PKM over long range to balance it with other LMGs.
Increased the base damage of the Type88 LMG to balance it with other LMGs.

Slightly reduced the base damage of the M16 and G3 to balance the increased range.
Slightly increased the damage of the AEK971, F2000, AN94, and AUG over long range to balance them with other Assault Rifles.

Reduced the lethal blast range of the 40mm grenade and M2CG to highlight their role as a secondary weapon against infantry.
Slightly Reduced the max range of the 40mm shotgun to balance it with other shotguns.
Slightly increased the base damage of shotgun rounds and reduced their range to clarify ideal shotgun combat distance.

Reduced the base damage of the PP2000 to balance the increased range.
Increased the damage of the 9A91 over long range to balance its lower magazine size.

Increased the damage and range of the M9, M93 pistols to make them more desirable as a secondary weapon.
Increased the range of the MP443 pistol to make it more desirable as a secondary weapon.
Increased the damage of the MP412 over long range to balance its low rate of fire.
Slightly reduced the rate of fire of the M1911 pistol to balance it with other pistols.

Increased the repair and overheat speeds of the Power Tool. Now overheats sooner but repairs the same amount before overheating.
Increased the maximum number of Motion Sensors that can be carried from 2 to 3 and increased the speed which new sensors are acquired from ammo boxes.
Significantly increased the speed of the Tracer Dart projectile to make it more effective against airborne targets.
Increased the reload time of the Mortar Strike and reduced the damage it does to heavily armored vehicles.
Decreased the range of Bolt Action Sniper and Pump Shotgun Slug rounds when using Magnum Ammo for better Kit Balance, especially in Hardcore.
Slightly increased the Health of soldiers in Hardcore for better Kit Balance.

Increased the benefit from the Medkit Heal+ specialization to make it more desirable as a Specialization.
Decreased the benefit from Vehicle Reload Speed to balance it against other Vehicle Specializations.
Slightly decreased the benefit from accuracy specializations to balance the changes to range and accuracy tweaks.


Fixed a bug where the BMD3 would take extra damage to the front armor.
Reduced the explosive damage from Attack Helicopter cannons.
Increased the damage of AA guns against all targets. The AA gun should be much more effective against infantry on Port Valdez.

These changes will eventually make their way to the 360 and PS3 as we work with our partners Microsoft and Sony to continue to support BFBC2 on all platforms. "

This is from the the battle field forum itself. I read it and I was skeptical, to me it sounds like they made the shotguns into gods weapons, nerfed every good gun, and made it easier to use shotguns and unbalanced the classes even more. Weeeeell. I was right. first three games I played was killed REPEADETLY by someone using a shotgun. The snipers have been nerfed unbelivably strongly, the 50. will not even one hit kill on hardcore mode. And Do you know what I thought as I was playing? "Oh my god, It's turned into modern warfare 2..." so basically the patch ruined the game for me. Thoughts and opinions? agree disagree?

tl;dr : the patch causes more problems than it solves with the weapons changes

EDIT: I read through the patch list again, The machine guns, WTH? isnt the point of having different weapons so they can have different strengths? the m60 shoot slow and accuartly with a tone ton of power the m249 fast less acurate uses speed to put down targets. DIVERSITY IS NOT A BAD THING EA
 

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I heard otherwise. My brother told me it fixed everything about the game that was broken previously. I might have to give it a test drive and see for myself when I finally put down RDR.
 

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I think the weapons are completly screwd, They nerfed the m416 ridculosly, but left the m16 alone, ther is no longer a weapon that can effectivley match the m16. They didn't think it through very well. If I wanted MW2 I would play MW2.
 

wwjdftw

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Counter_Southpaw said:
I heard otherwise. My brother told me it fixed everything about the game that was broken previously. I might have to give it a test drive and see for myself when I finally put down RDR.
I am complaining about weapons changes all the other things the patch fixes are great lol.
 

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In MW2 the .50 does 1 hit in hardcore. almost like they made it bum bum buuuuummmmmm worse than MW2. Also, why make all the guns the same? then there is no point to having more than one in every category...
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
The M60 didn't shoot slow. That thing was (Don't know if it still is, haven't played in forever) God's Weapon. And, I highly doubt it ruined the game. If you go for headshots and upper torso shots, you'll get one hit kills with the snipers (Except the silenced, which, like in traditional MW fashion, blow).
m60 nerfed, its wasnt bad, it had such a huge report when somone fired it that one good squad to could decimate whoever was shooting it 99% of the time. also, play on hardcore take your m 95 and get some body shots it doesnt one shot kill. its sickening how weak they made the snipers, they should have nerfed the m60 and left everything else alone IMO.
 

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Freshman said:
In MW2 the .50 does 1 hit in hardcore. almost like they made it bum bum buuuuummmmmm worse than MW2. Also, why make all the guns the same? then there is no point to having more than one in every category...
Thats what I said :I
 

wwjdftw

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JimmyBassatti said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
The M60 didn't shoot slow. That thing was (Don't know if it still is, haven't played in forever) God's Weapon. And, I highly doubt it ruined the game. If you go for headshots and upper torso shots, you'll get one hit kills with the snipers (Except the silenced, which, like in traditional MW fashion, blow).
m60 nerfed, its wasnt bad, it had such a huge report when somone fired it that one good squad to could decimate whoever was shooting it 99% of the time. also, play on hardcore take your m 95 and get some body shots it doesnt one shot kill. its sickening how weak they made the snipers, they should have nerfed the m60 and left everything else alone IMO.
Why nerf the M60? What did it do? Also, you seem to just be overreacting, I highly doubt it's this bad.
You just said it was a gods weapon in your opinion. I agree with that. It need the damage reduced but not as much as it was reduced.

Play the game. Gettign constantly killed by people using saiga's with sabots or blasted from 100yds by someone using buckshot gets old really fucking fast. Trust me.


TO EVERYONE
:I yes I know I am freaking out. My favorite game (favorite because it WAS NOT MW2) just turned into MW2 you can understand that can't you.
 

rockingnic

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I've played the other day and for some reason I was using a M16, shot first with accurate bursts, each hit and a guy with a AK SMG killed me when he had to turn 90 degrees to his left (this happened alot of different occasions). I was being killed by snipers in one shot all the time all over the place. I never been killed by a shotgun in the span of about 5-6 games. This is on the 360 if that counts.
 

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wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
The M60 didn't shoot slow. That thing was (Don't know if it still is, haven't played in forever) God's Weapon. And, I highly doubt it ruined the game. If you go for headshots and upper torso shots, you'll get one hit kills with the snipers (Except the silenced, which, like in traditional MW fashion, blow).
m60 nerfed, its wasnt bad, it had such a huge report when somone fired it that one good squad to could decimate whoever was shooting it 99% of the time. also, play on hardcore take your m 95 and get some body shots it doesnt one shot kill. its sickening how weak they made the snipers, they should have nerfed the m60 and left everything else alone IMO.
Why nerf the M60? What did it do? Also, you seem to just be overreacting, I highly doubt it's this bad.
You just said it was a gods weapon in your opinion. I agree with that. It need the damage reduced but not as much as it was reduced.

Play the game. Gettign constantly killed by people using saiga's with sabots or blasted from 100yds by someone using buckshot gets old really fucking fast. Trust me.


TO EVERYONE
:I yes I know I am freaking out. My favorite game (favorite because it WAS NOT MW2) just turned into MW2 you can understand that can't you.
If your favorite game is MW2 now, go play MW2 I like how BF BC2 is now. Last time I played before the update I was killed 5 times in a row by the same guy by a m60 in 2 shots. We only had the base spawn and he was killing everybody in sight with little/no ammo use. That put a sour taste in my mouth for a little. I'm glad it got nerfed. How about you try shooting for peoples chest instead of their feet to get kills.

Sorry if I sound a little hostile, this kind of stuff bugs me....
 

wwjdftw

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JimmyBassatti said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
The M60 didn't shoot slow. That thing was (Don't know if it still is, haven't played in forever) God's Weapon. And, I highly doubt it ruined the game. If you go for headshots and upper torso shots, you'll get one hit kills with the snipers (Except the silenced, which, like in traditional MW fashion, blow).
m60 nerfed, its wasnt bad, it had such a huge report when somone fired it that one good squad to could decimate whoever was shooting it 99% of the time. also, play on hardcore take your m 95 and get some body shots it doesnt one shot kill. its sickening how weak they made the snipers, they should have nerfed the m60 and left everything else alone IMO.
Why nerf the M60? What did it do? Also, you seem to just be overreacting, I highly doubt it's this bad.
You just said it was a gods weapon in your opinion. I agree with that. It need the damage reduced but not as much as it was reduced.

Play the game. Gettign constantly killed by people using saiga's with sabots or blasted from 100yds by someone using buckshot gets old really fucking fast. Trust me.


TO EVERYONE
:I yes I know I am freaking out. My favorite game (favorite because it WAS NOT MW2) just turned into MW2 you can understand that can't you.
Oh, I agree the shotguns sucked. They were awfully unbalanced before the supposed "nerfed". The thing is, I don't own BC2, so I can't check. I'll buy it this weekend, and check. Hopefully, none of this is as bad as you say. I used to just play medic so I could run around with my beloved M60.
It used to be fairly powerful, but nothign you couldnt hit the dirt or run from, But it has about these stats now

I--------------------I
damage
I-----
accuracy
I----------
Fire rate
I-----------

instead of
damage
I------------
accuracy
I----------------
rate
I-----------
 

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Bravo Company said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
wwjdftw said:
JimmyBassatti said:
The M60 didn't shoot slow. That thing was (Don't know if it still is, haven't played in forever) God's Weapon. And, I highly doubt it ruined the game. If you go for headshots and upper torso shots, you'll get one hit kills with the snipers (Except the silenced, which, like in traditional MW fashion, blow).
m60 nerfed, its wasnt bad, it had such a huge report when somone fired it that one good squad to could decimate whoever was shooting it 99% of the time. also, play on hardcore take your m 95 and get some body shots it doesnt one shot kill. its sickening how weak they made the snipers, they should have nerfed the m60 and left everything else alone IMO.
Why nerf the M60? What did it do? Also, you seem to just be overreacting, I highly doubt it's this bad.
You just said it was a gods weapon in your opinion. I agree with that. It need the damage reduced but not as much as it was reduced.

Play the game. Gettign constantly killed by people using saiga's with sabots or blasted from 100yds by someone using buckshot gets old really fucking fast. Trust me.


TO EVERYONE
:I yes I know I am freaking out. My favorite game (favorite because it WAS NOT MW2) just turned into MW2 you can understand that can't you.
If your favorite game is MW2 now, go play MW2 I like how BF BC2 is now. Last time I played before the update I was killed 5 times in a row by the same guy by a m60 in 2 shots. We only had the base spawn and he was killing everybody in sight with little/no ammo use. That put a sour taste in my mouth for a little. I'm glad it got nerfed. How about you try shooting for peoples chest instead of their feet to get kills.

Sorry if I sound a little hostile, this kind of stuff bugs me....
For gods sake I'm about to get hostile because people can't read slowly and take in what I am saying. I never said Mw2 was my favorite game.
 

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Played it post-update. Seems to be much more balanced now. I wouldn't worry about it, the Battlefield division of EA is pretty dedicated to doing their best to make a level playing field. More so then most companies...
 

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rockingnic said:
I've played the other day and for some reason I was using a M16, shot first with accurate bursts, each hit and a guy with a AK SMG killed me when he had to turn 90 degrees to his left (this happened alot of different occasions). I was being killed by snipers in one shot all the time all over the place. I never been killed by a shotgun in the span of about 5-6 games. This is on the 360 if that counts.
were you playing hardcore? I used to be able to get a kill 1 shot from the GOL, center mass, on hardcore. The M95 has a hardtime one shot killing center mass on hardcore now. Do you see whre I am coming from yet?
 

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wow. sounds like they made every gun exactly the same. crap, I don't want to let my game update. :S Eh what the hell, just give everybody a lightsaber and I'll be happy.
 

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wwjdftw said:
rockingnic said:
I've played the other day and for some reason I was using a M16, shot first with accurate bursts, each hit and a guy with a AK SMG killed me when he had to turn 90 degrees to his left (this happened alot of different occasions). I was being killed by snipers in one shot all the time all over the place. I never been killed by a shotgun in the span of about 5-6 games. This is on the 360 if that counts.
were you playing hardcore? I used to be able to get a kill 1 shot from the GOL, center mass, on hardcore. The M95 has a hardtime one shot killing center mass on hardcore now. Do you see whre I am coming from yet?
I did see it's just that I don't play hardcore so I wouldn't know personally.