Bi-sexuality.
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THIS.Blitzwarp said:
It explains my views on this subject pretty well. I´m against judging anyone. All choices are to be respected.
I like girls and guys. I've only ever had girlfriends, but if I found a guy who I was attracted to and was willing (and we were both single, of course), I'd date him without a second thought. I don't use the term "bisexual" because I wasn't attracted to both genders until last year, and I don't know if I'll be attracted to both (or either) genders in the future.
Personally, I see sexuality as something you should define solely on your own experiences and feelings and not on classifications, labels, or scales. Those things carry connotations and expectations with them that just complicate things, which a person doesn't need to adopt, because who they're attracted to is their own business, and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves (Holy run-on sentence, Batman!).
Personally, I see sexuality as something you should define solely on your own experiences and feelings and not on classifications, labels, or scales. Those things carry connotations and expectations with them that just complicate things, which a person doesn't need to adopt, because who they're attracted to is their own business, and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves (Holy run-on sentence, Batman!).
Well, I'm a lesbian, and while there are males I find attractive in the "he's kinda cute" way, sexually, just... no.
If I ever fell for a guy, well, it's not like I have anything against it, but it's hard to imagine...
Even bi-sexual people aren't attracted to everyone. They just can fall in love with people of both sexes. And some people aren't that clearly male or female anyway.
Bi-sexuals can have a kind of bad reputation in lesbian circles, as they are considered as just experimenting, and not looking for a serious commitment, which might be true for some, but I wouldn't judge people based on that.
If I ever fell for a guy, well, it's not like I have anything against it, but it's hard to imagine...
Even bi-sexual people aren't attracted to everyone. They just can fall in love with people of both sexes. And some people aren't that clearly male or female anyway.
Bi-sexuals can have a kind of bad reputation in lesbian circles, as they are considered as just experimenting, and not looking for a serious commitment, which might be true for some, but I wouldn't judge people based on that.
I cant help that dudes are unattractive. if guys were attractive, they'd be women.Valdrec said:
Well what would you do if a guy you thought you might be able to have some kind of fun with approached you and offered you, say, a blowjob?Spacelord said:That raises the question of how that'd work in practice, you know? In my admittedly rather limited experience there's a certain gradation of intimacy as time progresses, you know first you kiss, then you go further from there. You can't go up to a guy in a bar and go like "hey wanna go out back and blow eachother?"...wolfchylde said:
Wait, no, actually I think you totally could.
Thing is all the men I do find attractive are way, way out of my league. Case in point:
This is some BULLSHIT
And since my standards for the ladies are a lot more realistic I'm afraid I'm going to have to stick with girls. I think I'll live though!
Of course a bisexual friend of mine once said to me "If men could get head from a squid, every man would own an aquarium, getting head doesn't mean jack shit about someone's sexuality." She always did have a rather hilarious pragmatic view of sexuality
I seriously doubt that. First of all because I've never made out with a guy or anything (and haven't had any trouble not doing so) but mainly because the scale says homosexual BEHAVIOR and not homosexual urges. If someone is outspokenly saying they aren't gay, I would think that they would go out of their way to not act on any homosexual tendencies they might have. Also, people who are completely celibate wouldn't even be accounted for on this scale regardless of actual orientation.Arawn.Chernobog said:An "Exclusively Heterosexual" individual is just as rare as an "exclusively homosexual" one.
Go Kinsey Scale.
A lot of people touting to be "strict straights" are actually 1s or 2s.
I'd define sexuality as a cognitive state of being. If you only fuck girls because you want to fit in but like dudes, you're still gay, it's just that nobody knows it. Doing girls doesn't make you strait or even bi if you have to close your eyes and pretend it's an ass to get through it.
It's so wrong it's one of the most respected Psychological advances of the 20th Century.Yog Sothoth said:
The Kinsey Scale is not without it's flaws (flaws namely being that it only goes horizontally, not vertically) but it is a highly effective representation of the various shades of human sexuality.
I might suggest you take some of your own advice. I've seen a couple of folks here now who have asserted that 100% gay/lesbian or straight people are in the minority, citing the Kinsey scale. I got curious about this, because it didn't sound right to me, so I followed this link that was posted earlier: http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/ak-hhscale.htmlwolfchylde said:
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I believe this speaks for itself, unless your reading comprehension is poor.
I agree in saying more people are at the very least a 1. I'm not gay nor bi, but I can appreciate an attractive male. @ActionDan, if you've seen p0rn with a guy in it, I think that counts as being a 1.Arawn.Chernobog said:An "Exclusively Heterosexual" individual is just as rare as an "exclusively homosexual" one.
Go Kinsey Scale.
A lot of people touting to be "strict straights" are actually 1s or 2s.
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I've had a bi gf in the past who cheated on me and because of that, I DO think they're more inclined to cheat. I also think being bi has something to do with a need for a lot of (mainly sexual) attention.
I don't have much to say on the matter, but I will say that this thread might be slipping into a total flame war...
It was a great start, but that research doesn't begin and end with Kinsey. Much has been built on the foundation that he laid down. Also, there is a great deal of psychology that we still don't understand, and there are even those in the scientific community who question the validity of psychology as a 'science' at all.Thespian said:
EDIT: All I am asserting is that the idea that only a tiny fraction of the population is 100% straight is wrong. There's nothing wrong with the chart beyond that.
That seems to describe a lot of it. Though I think a fair amount is simple misunderstanding. Straights don't get gays. Nobody gets bis.Fawcks said:
Oh bisexuality, a sign of our times. It's pretty trendy to admit you are bisexual nowadays, even if by this you mean that you find other people of the same sex attractive and that's that. I'm fairly sure 90% of those who claim to be bisexual in this forum have never had any kind of romantic relationship with a person of the same sex
All I can say is, you have no idea how to troll on the internet, because you failed at the very beginning: you were the first to get worked up. So fuck off and lurk more.wolfchylde said:
Also: nice nerdy reference, you really are living up to the stereotype.
I've noticed something.
There have been several jerks who've said some very offensive things about bisexuals. No one has responded to these obvious trolls.
On the other hand, one bisexual poster said something offensive to straight people.
Now every other post is about THAT offesive comment. All the comments that were offensive to bisexuals have been ignored.
Why the double standard? Why aren't we telling off the idiots who are calling us names? And straight people, why can't you get over it? A bisexual thinks that everyone's bi. Shocking. Just like straight people want to think that everyone's straight. Or that gay people want to think that everyone is gay.
And, for the record, I'm bisexual. I have my own opinions about the rest of the population. Considering the argument currently in progress, I think I'll hold off on voicing that opinion at the moment.
There have been several jerks who've said some very offensive things about bisexuals. No one has responded to these obvious trolls.
On the other hand, one bisexual poster said something offensive to straight people.
Now every other post is about THAT offesive comment. All the comments that were offensive to bisexuals have been ignored.
Why the double standard? Why aren't we telling off the idiots who are calling us names? And straight people, why can't you get over it? A bisexual thinks that everyone's bi. Shocking. Just like straight people want to think that everyone's straight. Or that gay people want to think that everyone is gay.
And, for the record, I'm bisexual. I have my own opinions about the rest of the population. Considering the argument currently in progress, I think I'll hold off on voicing that opinion at the moment.
The Kinsey Scale does not solve everything =/= The Kinsey Scale is wrong.Yog Sothoth said:
And yes, I know there are those who claim that Psychology is not a Science. However, a Science is something you can test and replicate, and form theories on based on the Scientific Method. Psychology does all of these things and frankly the only arguments I have seen against Psychology being a science is on par with angry villagers yelling "Witchcraft" whilst wielding their pitch forks threateningly.
Yes, there are many things we don't understand, yes the Kinsey scale was a rather revolutionary but still shortcoming chart. For example, it doesn't include those who have no sexual tendencies whatsoever, or less/more powerful urges. But that still doesn't mean it's "wrong" as you said.
