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Sonmi

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Elijin said:
This damn topic sucked me straight back into a binge.

Favourite run included the bitten leaf, freeze enemies on contact and a level 2 meat buddy. I mean I'm not saying you enter a room, walk to middle and stand still until everything including the bosses die. But.....that's exactly what you do.
The leaf is pretty much how I beat Mega Satan as the Lost, activate the leaf and let your orbitals and companions take care of the boss fight, go grab a book or watch a movie in the meantime, but it's going to take a while.

I'm kind of disappointed the Lost has been made strong in Afterbirth though, the Holy Mantle is simply too strong as a starting item, and pretty much removes much of the challenge and stress that came from playing the Lost.
 

Andy Shandy

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Love it. Got into it watching NorthernLion play it, and as soon as Rebirth came out on Xbox, I bought it and have loved it since.

Picked up Afterbirth as well now that it's out, but waiting until they sort out issues like the achievements not unlocking and all that jazz.
 

Foolery

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I haven't played it. Just doesn't look like my cup of tea. I did buy a copy for a friend, and it's one of his most played games on steam. I always hear it's a great game, and I think the praise it gets, is somewhat well deserved.
 

Dizchu

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I really enjoy but there are some items that are ridiculously overpowered (Ipecac shots for example) and other items that basically make the game unplayable (Dead Cat, some of the teleportation powerups).
 

Sonmi

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Dizchu said:
I really enjoy but there are some items that are ridiculously overpowered (Ipecac shots for example) and other items that basically make the game unplayable (Dead Cat, some of the teleportation powerups).
The Ipecac is one of the worst items in the game due to it harming you too easily and it being inaccurate against fast moving aggressive mobs though, while the Dead Cat is over-powered due to it allowing you to make considerably more devil deals while getting you one step closer to becoming Guppy.

I do agree that the teleportation items are all garbage though, with the exception of Teleport 2.0 which gives you access to devil/angel rooms on floors on which there should be none, and to the I AM ERROR room in floors where there actually are Devil/Angel rooms (or where there are none, if you save a battery for it). Of course, it requires you to be adept at finding secret rooms though, and to have visited every room on a level.
 

Dizchu

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Sonmi said:
The Ipecac is one of the worst items in the game due to it harming you too easily and it being inaccurate against fast moving aggressive mobs though, while the Dead Cat is over-powered due to it allowing you to make considerably more devil deals while getting you one step closer to becoming Guppy.
I dunno the Ipecac often guarantees that I at least get beyond the womb most of the time but I usually have a few familiars around to deal with closer enemies. When it comes to hitting fast enemies it's all about timing, and the secondary fire of the Flak Cannon in Unreal Tournament has made me pretty good at predicting shots.

One of the craziest combos is the Ipecac and Soy Milk though. That's extremely difficult to control but that combo was also what allowed me to almost defeat Hush.
 

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Dizchu said:
Sonmi said:
The Ipecac is one of the worst items in the game due to it harming you too easily and it being inaccurate against fast moving aggressive mobs though, while the Dead Cat is over-powered due to it allowing you to make considerably more devil deals while getting you one step closer to becoming Guppy.
I dunno the Ipecac often guarantees that I at least get beyond the womb most of the time but I usually have a few familiars around to deal with closer enemies. When it comes to hitting fast enemies it's all about timing, and the secondary fire of the Flak Cannon in Unreal Tournament has made me pretty good at predicting shots.

One of the craziest combos is the Ipecac and Soy Milk though. That's extremely difficult to control but that combo was also what allowed me to almost defeat Hush.
Ipecac isn't terrible, but it sit's firmly behind Brimstone, Anti-Gravity, Technology, and several tear spam combos when it comes to 'power tiers.' Hardly broken.
 

Sonmi

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Dizchu said:
Sonmi said:
The Ipecac is one of the worst items in the game due to it harming you too easily and it being inaccurate against fast moving aggressive mobs though, while the Dead Cat is over-powered due to it allowing you to make considerably more devil deals while getting you one step closer to becoming Guppy.
I dunno the Ipecac often guarantees that I at least get beyond the womb most of the time but I usually have a few familiars around to deal with closer enemies. When it comes to hitting fast enemies it's all about timing, and the secondary fire of the Flak Cannon in Unreal Tournament has made me pretty good at predicting shots.

One of the craziest combos is the Ipecac and Soy Milk though. That's extremely difficult to control but that combo was also what allowed me to almost defeat Hush.
Ipecac's only utility as far as I am concerned is to break cracked rocks and find secret rooms for free, but it does perform well against some of the bosses though, granted, Hush included. It's simply too slow and risky to be reliable.

While still on the matter of bad items, I don't think I've ever succeeded a run with the Guillotine, it's simply too disorienting to be used effectively in my humble opinion.
 

Elijin

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This game needs an endless mode or a 'continue into a new game?' mode.

And yes, I know you can use the easter eggs to make endless basement mode, but that gets boring really fast.
 

sXeth

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I've played it. Sort of enjoyed the gameplay. The whole aesthetic really isn't my thing though. What there is of a story/lore I don't really get at all. There's like, names and stuff, but nothing seemed really coherent.

Or in short summary, it wasn't terrible, but I don't see whats so great about it, and nothing about it inspires me to find out,