Biological Warfair/Virus

[PersianLlama]

Um, antibiotics are anti biotics. They work on bacteria, not viruses. The only real way we have to protect ourselves from viruses is vaccination. I also think we'll all die from a virus emerging from either the jungles of Africa, East Asia, or in my opinion, the least likely possibility, man-made.

Whenever you take antibiotics, the virus is normally destroyed.

I think you need to reread the roles of antibiotics, and how they don't affect viruses.

Bah, you said it before me.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Not gonna happen, even the worst outbreaks of marburg virus only had a 90% mortality rate and that was not entirely accurate as no note was made of survivors before the virus was identified.
Rabies has a 100% MR if left untreated but seeing as you have to have infected body fluid enter your bloodtream its not particularly 'contagious'.

No virus or other such thing is going to wipe out humanity, were too numerous and conditons are pretty favourable for us. It would take more than one thing to wipe us out, that why there are FOUR horsemen of the apocalypse, no one horseman can take us out, they have to gang up on us, the pussies.

 

[PersianLlama]

Not gonna happen, even the worst outbreaks of marburg virus only had a 90% mortality rate and that was not entirely accurate as no note was made of survivors before the virus was identified.
Rabies has a 100% MR if left untreated but seeing as you have to have infected body fluid enter your bloodtream its not particularly 'contagious'.

No virus or other such thing is going to wipe out humanity, were too numerous and conditons are pretty favourable for us. It would take more than one thing to wipe us out, that why there are FOUR horsemen of the apocalypse, no one horseman can take us out, they have to gang up on us, the pussies.

Yes, we are too numerous, but because were numerous, it would be easier for a deadly and contagious virus (Some future virus/disease). There were many people under the Mongol empire and the interactions helped spread the Bubonic Plague (which started in Southwest China, I think). Of course the Bubonic Plague didn't kill everyone, but there could be a disease that will in the future! Maybe.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Yes, we are too numerous, but because were numerous, it would be easier for a deadly and contagious virus (Some future virus/disease). There were many people under the Mongol empire and the interactions helped spread the Bubonic Plague (which started in Southwest China, I think). Of course the Bubonic Plague didn't kill anyone, but there could be a disease that will in the future! Maybe.

What? Didn't kill anyone? It killed half of europe (and probably the far east).

The point is that a percentage always survives. Say it kills 99% of those infected and there is somehow a 100% infection rate, you still have millions of people left. 100% infection rate and 100% mortality? Isn't going to happen. Ever.

You might as well ask which alien civilisation is going to take over the earth.

 

[PersianLlama]

Yes, we are too numerous, but because were numerous, it would be easier for a deadly and contagious virus (Some future virus/disease). There were many people under the Mongol empire and the interactions helped spread the Bubonic Plague (which started in Southwest China, I think). Of course the Bubonic Plague didn't kill anyone, but there could be a disease that will in the future! Maybe.

What? Didn't kill anyone? It killed half of europe (and probably the far east).

The point is that a percentage always survives. Say it kills 99% of those infected and there is somehow a 100% infection rate, you still have millions of people left. 100% infection rate and 100% mortality? Isn't going to happen. Ever.

Oh, huge typo...I meant 'everyone', not anyone sorry.

It killed 2/3 of Europe I think.

It could happen, if a man-made virus was created to bypass all possibilities of being protected genetically, but your likely right.

 

[stompy]

The only real way we have to protect ourselves from viruses is vaccination.

Even then, that doesn't work sometimes. For example, the body's immune system cannot make antibodies for HIV/AIDS, because it has an ever-changing protein outer layer, meaning that as soon as antibodies for one layer are created, the virus just changes the layer configuration, and the antibodies become ineffective to the virus, requiring another set of antibodies. Extending that, we can't make a vaccine for HIV/AIDS either, because that ever-changing protein layer means that, should the body pre-emptively make antibodies for one configuration, the protein layer changes, and the antibodies are rendered useless.

(I may have gotten the wrong information on the protein layers, mind you.)

Bah, you said it before me.

Well, be glad that you already knew that antibiotics don't work for viruses. I hope none of people who said antibiotics will cure any viruses are doctors...

 

[mokes310]

Ha, "Warfair."

Sounds fun, and deadly!

As for a virus killing us all, I dunno.

Hey, atleast we'll all get our FARE share

My guess would be some version of the plague or flu.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Oh, huge typo...I meant 'everyone', not anyone sorry.

It killed 2/3 of Europe I think.

It could happen, if a man-made virus was created to bypass all possibilities of being protected genetically, but your likely right.

I did wonder...

Estimated between 30 to 60%, with varied MR's throughout Europe, some places were hit much worse than others, although getting accurate accounts from the time are problematic for obvious reasons.

That really is getting into the realm of fiction, although I suspect the original question wasn't exactly serious.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

I would find it hard to believe that a natural plague would wipe out all mankind, but considering all the travel we have we could easily knock off half the population of the earth with another black plague.

A man-made virus would do the trick but man-made viruses have a very simple formula as to make a vaccine for said virus. I wouldn't really worry about it, atomic warfare is far easier than viral warfare.

 

[Crystal Cuckoo]

Whenever you take antibiotics, the virus is normally destroyed.

I think you need to reread the roles of antibiotics, and how they don't affect viruses.

My bad, I meant antiviral drugs
Sorry that I caused confusion

EDIT: by antiviral drugs, I also mean flu shots, to avoid further (minor )flaming

 

[captain awesome 12]

i think that the cancer virus will mutate and become airborne.

either that or the Jonas Brothers get mutated into a virus and is broadcast on all airwaves, infecting the minds of listeners and making them die from a combination of brain hemorrhage, foaming at the mouth, and gayness

Ahhhh! be careful what you say, you don't want to start international panic.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

i think that the cancer virus will mutate and become airborne.

either that or the Jonas Brothers get mutated into a virus and is broadcast on all airwaves, infecting the minds of listeners and making them die from a combination of brain hemorrhage, foaming at the mouth, and gayness

Ahhhh! be careful what you say, you don't want to start international panic.

lol

 

[Knight Templar]

A virus that causes infertility in the next generation and is spread though body fluids. However it is also carried by mosquitoes because it isn't disolved like HIV is.

In OZ people, lab people, have made a disease that renders mosquitoes infertile in the next generation, so I'm gona say it goes cross-species.

 

[Crystal Cuckoo]

A virus that causes infertility in the next generation and is spread though body fluids. However it is also carried by mosquitoes because it isn't disolved like HIV is.

In OZ people, lab people, have made a disease that renders mosquitoes infertile in the next generation, so I'm gona say it goes cross-species.

If they released said disease, wouldn't that screw around with the food chain?

 

[Knight Templar]

A virus that causes infertility in the next generation and is spread though body fluids. However it is also carried by mosquitoes because it isn't disolved like HIV is.

In OZ people, lab people, have made a disease that renders mosquitoes infertile in the next generation, so I'm gona say it goes cross-species.

If they released said disease, wouldn't that screw around with the food chain?

Not much, nothing really eats mosquitoes enough that taking them away will be a big deal. Its not like they are flys or ants and have other animals on their back.

All mosquitoes tend to do is go around spoiling water and spreading disease. If I'm wrong here somebody let me know.

 

[stompy]

My bad, I meant antiviral drugs
Sorry that I caused confusion

EDIT: by antiviral drugs, I also mean flu shots, to avoid further (minor )flaming

No problems, and sorry if it appeared I was flaming (didn't mean to).

Also, as I've pointed out a little earlier, even anti-viral drugs can (and will) fail, especially if it's a man-made virus. As you'd know, quite a few viruses, like influenza and HIV/AIDS, have that changing protein layer... it means that the drug has to be continually be changed, and if it's like HIV/AIDS, then there's no point, because the change happens too quickly for anti-viral medication to be effective.

 

[Lukeydoodly]

i think that the cancer virus will mutate and become airborne.

either that or the Jonas Brothers get mutated into a virus and is broadcast on all airwaves, infecting the minds of listeners and making them die from a combination of brain hemorrhage, foaming at the mouth, and gayness

Flawless Victory!

 

[Caliostro]

As soon as a Pandemic breaks out, i'm moving to Madagascar.

As anyone who has played Pandemic 2 knows, it's actually impossible to infect.

Spoiler

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

i think that the cancer virus will mutate and become airborne.

either that or the Jonas Brothers get mutated into a virus and is broadcast on all airwaves, infecting the minds of listeners and making them die from a combination of brain hemorrhage, foaming at the mouth, and gayness

Flawless Victory!

Raiden Winnnssss lol

 

[FrankDux]

Wow, a Jonas Brothers virus. That is epic win.