Bioshock and Objectivism

fdbluth

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Why do people keep saying Bioshock is a condensed version of Atlas Shrugged? Has these people ever read Atlas Shrugged?

Atlas Shrugged was a long (long, long) book about the evils of "fairness", where a society depending on the talents of the superior treated them like pack animals, rather than gods among men. Governments appreciate these people and their deeds, but wishes to spread its profits among the undeserving. The masses subsist on the talents and the shining light of these supermen and superwomen, but fails to acknowledge their presence in the world. The envious and the talentless wishes to usurp the ubermensche, to warp them to either bring them down to their level or pull themselves on top of them.

This is not what Bioshock was.

Ryan and his city of Rapture was certainly influenced by the philosophy of objectivism, but he is clearly the villain of the narrative and Rapture is an obvious place of evil. If this had been a condensed version of Atlas Shrugged, or largely influenced by Ayn Rand, then the hero would trudge along through a city ruined by bureaucracy and jealousy as the discoverer of the secret of superhuman abilities through the use of ADAM. The government would try to extract the information to sell to the masses at a cheaper (and thus, inferior) price, the hero would step up and boldly say no, and bring down the corrupt system.

Bioshock seemed more like the equivalent of an Upton Sinclair novel to me. Greed hides behind a veil of ideological sentiment about liberty and freedom. Greed becomes envy. Envy becomes hate. Violent fate is achieved as a consequence to that greed, tearing down the disguise to reveal nothing but an ugly, misshapen face of darkness.

This isn't to say that Bioshock was an analogy on capitalism and socialism, like Ayn Rand and Upton Sinclair respectively tried to do in their books. But still, it always felt weird that Bioshock and Ayn Rand seem to go hand in hand in video game circles. Am I the only one thinking that or has anyone else felt the same way?
 

Woodsey

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I've never seen people say it's a condensed version.

I've seen people say it's influenced by it (Ken Levine has said so too I believe), but that could mean anything from taking direct plot points to just engaging ideologies.
 

Phantom_IEC

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I'm currently reading Atlas Shrugged and I agree with your statements.

While there are elements of objectivism in the game it certainly is not a condensed version of AS. In fact there are very few similarities between the two.
 

NorthernTrooper

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All this makes me realize is that I want another amazing Bioshock, and not the kind of decent Bioshock 2
 

Atmos Duality

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The entirety of Rapture to me is more along the lines of a cautionary tale.

Some would say it would be unshackling mad science and doing the whole "Trying to tamper in God's Domain" schtick, but I didn't get that. It's more about how if you have no ethics, then organized competition will not last for long (poor splicers).

In that regard, Bioshock was a lot less about pure Objectivism than I was initially lead to believe, and with good reason too, because absolute Objectivism is nothing short of pure evil. If the game had been about that, I wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.
 

Meshakhad_v1legacy

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While Objectivism does make selfishness a virtue, it doesn't encourage lawlessness. While an Objectivist society would lack, for instance, government regulation of businesses, they would still have laws against theft and murder, and would have police to enforce them. Such laws are essential for any society to function, and Rapture presumably had cops.

At its height, Rapture was an Objectivist society. It failed not because Objectivism inherently leads to social collapse, but because people are greedy assholes. Had Rapture been, for example, a Communist society, the collapse might still have occured, only with guns instead of plasmids. At most, the advanced science made things worse, but how is this different from any other war?
 

Yassen

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The game wasn't about how great objectivism is, it's more a warning against it. I could see where Ayn rand was coming from, but pure objectivism is just doomed to fail because of the very thing she's accusing governments of: Greed.

That's exactly what Bioshock shows. Andrew Ryan made a pure objectivist city free of government, censoreship and restrictions. At first it worked well but when a competitor showed up who was about to overthrow him he went a bit mad with power. He got too used to his self-appointed title and felt threatened when someone showed up or could take it away from him. He took control believing he was preserving his ideals but in doing so was ultimately betraying the very ideals he built Rapture on.

So no I wouldn't say Bioshock is a condenced Atlas Shrugged as that book promoted objectivism while Bioshock is warning against it.
 

Smooth Operator

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Rapture a place of evil?
Things might have gone down anarchy lane but the idea Rapture was built on is far from evil.
The scenario simply played out as a bad implementation of objectivism because they didn't account for the overwhelming influence of greed.
 

GotMalkAvian

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There are a lot of Rand references in the first game, and I think a few people made a leap from noticing the game is based on Rand's work (especially Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead) and philosophy in general to seeing the game as a retelling or re-interpretation of Atlas Shrugged.
 

Meggiepants

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As people have already stated, Bioshock is not Atlas Shrugged Revisited, rather it's been influenced by Atlas Shrugged.

Both employ the same narrative techniques to create a dystopia. They both show a political ideology by portraying leaders who think their chosen ideology is so wonderful. Then they both show how fucked up said ideology can be.

Rand takes a combination of Fascism, Socialism and Marxism and puts that element in charge of a controlled society. Then through narrative story, she shows how messed up and unfair the world would be if we let these people run things.

Bioshock is the counterpoint to this argument, and takes Objectivism and Laissez Faire Capitalism and shows through narrative how fucked up that world can be.