BioShock Infinite Review: A Head in the Clouds

MikeWehner

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ccdohl said:
I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?
Not at all. There is a tiny bit of fan service, but nothing that will confuse you. It stands completely on its own.
 

Susan Arendt

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ccdohl said:
I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?
But you should play BioShock (the first one, anyway) because it is brilllllllllyunnnnnnnt.
 

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I'm wondering... Bioshock was underwater, Bioshock Infinite is up in the sky. It would only be logical for the next "Shock" game to take place in space. Perhaps in the future. With, oh, I dunno, some kind of evil AI villain. :)
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
VMK said:
But is mr. DeWitt actually witty?

Yes, he is witty and pretty and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay~!

Sorry, had to make that reference. I will go into the corner now.
Is this... Is this "The Producers" refference? The one with Matthew Broderick?

More OT: BTW, is there a new game+ option? Because I like those.
 

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Wait a minute this review is too positive,not one negative was mentioned......IMPOSSIBLE Nothing on this earth can be perfect as that would mean that it has no flaws making it divine,but the game was made by humans which means if the game is divine in it perfection.....so must be the developers,but this is impossible for a human as our brains and bodies are designed in such a way that we will make mistakes,which means we can't be divine and that this game inturn can't be perfect unless,that this game must be made by gods,wait why would they make a game unless.........THIS GAME IS CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!It all makes sense target gamers who are more likely to be atheist's and convert them to Christianity,but why?.......Unless GOD needs us to believe in him in order to exist in this reality, EVERY ONE DON"T PLAY THIS GAME,by doing so you will be mind controlled by god for his sinister purposes.
 

MikeWehner

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knight steel said:
Wait a minute this review is too positive,not one negative was mentioned......IMPOSSIBLE Nothing on this earth can be perfect as that would mean that it has no flaws making it divine,but the game was made by humans which means if the game is divine in it perfection.....so must be the developers,but this is impossible for a human as our brains and bodies are designed in such a way that we will make mistakes,which means we can't be divine and that this game inturn can't be perfect unless,that this game must be made by gods,wait why would they make a game unless.........THIS GAME IS CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!It all makes sense target gamers who are more likely to be atheist's and convert them to Christianity,but why?.......Unless GOD needs us to believe in him in order to exist in this reality, EVERY ONE DON"T PLAY THIS GAME,by doing so you will be mind controlled by god for his sinister purposes.

Umm.... let's see. Flaws.... ummmmmmm.

The iron sight on the pistol is kind of lame. It has a point, like a sharp point, rather than a flat top, which kind of bugged me. Some of the NPCs have the same face. You can't fly a giant dragon.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.
 

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You said the saim thing about ME3, I don't trust your review. I'm going to wait for the independent reviewers to see if it's worth it.
 

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Aaannnd poor Tomb raider is overshadowed by this pseudo-philosophical tripe

Don't get me wrong.I am sure the game is enjoyable.And moreover, i will have fun with it.But the philosophy in the bioshock series never did anything to me, honestly.And i think the series could be better off without it.Bioshock 2 had great potential (the cult of Eleanor and all) but failed miserably, it merely wallowed in it's predecessor's IDENTICAL gameplay.

Tomb Raider on the other hand is just a great cinematic survivor story, that is really touching.It will be lucky to win anything considering how each reviewer is jizzing their pants.This is saddening to me, but oh well.At least i have a good game to play.No one will ever understand what crystal dynamics has done, and how far TR itself has come.

Also "CHECK UR PULSE IF U DON"T THING TEH GAMEZZZZ IS OSUMMM???" is something i've yet to see any professional review ever say.Good job escapist.
 

MikeWehner

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AdrianRK said:
You said the saim thing about ME3, I don't trust your review. I'm going to wait for the independent reviewers to see if it's worth it.
I said nothing about Mass Effect 3.

Also, what? I'm not a computer, I'm just a dude who plays games and happens to be lucky enough to write about them as my job. This wasn't a crowdsourced review, it's just me. Yes, it's Escapist's official review, but as far as opinions go, that's just what this is.

You're fine to want to check out any and all other reviews before making a decision, but don't jump into the thread of people discussing the review and asking questions just to tell everyone that (for whatever reason) you don't trust me.
 

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MikeWehner said:
"Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!" It's not an escort mission, I explicitly state that it's not an escort mission in the review. You are wrong.

"you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!" You are wrong.

"I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped." You are wrong.

"I honestly hope I'm wrong" Well congrats, because you ARE wrong!

Now stop being an Amazon-esque review bomber and shut your mouth before you play the game. <3
I watched the video again to make sure I didn't miss anything you said about Elizabeth. You talk a lot of about Elizabeth's abilities to do things like resupply and spawn in cover. You never explicitly state that it's not an Escort Mission. Maybe I should unpack what I think an "escort mission" is. An escort mission is when an NPC exists who is important to moving the plot forward, but is not a powerful combatant. This results in them dying and causing you to fail the mission unless you CONSTANTLY babysit them. Hell, even NPCs who CAN defend themselves tend to walk in front of your gun while you're trying to shoot in other games. So if you say Bioshock Infinite is avoiding this, then I say good for them. (With the caveat that non-annoying NPC AI is like enemies who use grenades intelligently. I'll believe it when I see it.) Glad I was wrong.

No contrived "you have to watch the bad guys kick the puppy and twirl their mustache, BECAUSE EMOTIONS!" moment? Glad I was wrong.

I admit the last thing I saw about Bioshock infinite prior to watching your video review was an old trailer where they show off the sky city and the lighting engine and everything is deserted and then a thing attacks the camera, so that led to the expectation that it would be like Bioshock 1 and 2 but with a sky city. Now that I stop and think about it, creating a ton of NPC dialogue and behaviors and clean clothing on all the models would take a lot of time, so it's ridiculous to think they were planning on making a destroyed city like Bioshock 1 and then changed it when Dishonored came out. So, glad I was wrong.

You can see why people would react this way, though, right? Prominent developers at industry events are explicitly telling us what we've suspected for years: that they are idiots who think polygons equals emotions. Games like Aliens: Colonial Marines are screaming "We are liars, we are liars, we are liars! Don't believe us!" every time they release another "vertical slice" bullshit video. This is the type of reaction that the entire industry is conspiring (albeit probably inadvertently) to engender.

Anyway, Kudos to you for responding the way you did. That takes guts. You're putting your credibility on the line to back up your statements. This doesn't strike me as the way a typical component of the industry hype machine would behave. Maybe you're even telling the truth. Maybe Bioshock really is some kinda transcendental emotional uber storytelling combat game.

Man, wouldn't that be nice? Honestly, I would settle for a decent first person shooter with a cool world and which doesn't trip all over itself in the gameplay. But they can't advertise that, they can't say "this game is pretty good, here's what's in it," they have to promise us the BEST GAME EVAR every single game that comes out.

So yeah. Hoping for the best. Sorry for being overly pessimistic. But you can see why my expectations would be so low, even after watching your review, right? Although I really can't think of anything you could have done differently. It's not like you could preface your review with "I know this sounds like hype, but no, the game actually IS good, honest." Actually by referencing the TV campaign you kinda sort of did do that. Didn't work. Huh.
 
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SoMuchSpace said:
Aaannnd poor Tomb raider is overshadowed by this pseudo-philosophical tripe

Don't get me wrong.I am sure the game is enjoyable.And moreover, i will have fun with it.But the philosophy in the bioshock series never did anything to me, honestly.And i think the series could be better off without it.Bioshock 2 had great potential (the cult of Eleanor and all) but failed miserably, it merely wallowed in it's predecessor's IDENTICAL gameplay.

Tomb Raider on the other hand is just a great cinematic survivor story, that is really touching.It will be lucky to win anything considering how each reviewer is jizzing their pants.This is saddening to me, but oh well.At least i have a good game to play.No one will ever understand what crystal dynamics has done, and how far TR itself has come.

Also "CHECK UR PULSE IF U DON"T THING TEH GAMEZZZZ IS OSUMMM???" is something i've yet to see any professional review ever say.Good job escapist.
The irony of this post is delicious.

Anyone else want a taste?

So very delicious...
 
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So, does Elizabeth do everything on her own? Is there some strategy or pattern to the stuff she pulls from the Tears, is it random, or can you give her orders?

Just a small question; this one definitely looks worth a buy.
 

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XMark said:
I'm wondering... Bioshock was underwater, Bioshock Infinite is up in the sky. It would only be logical for the next "Shock" game to take place in space. Perhaps in the future. With, oh, I dunno, some kind of evil AI villain. :)
With an AI SYSTEM going into a state of SHOCK, and afterwards turns a spaceship crew into mindless monsters? That sounds like a nice game. Someone should make it.
 

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MikeWehner said:
knight steel said:
Wait a minute this review is too positive,not one negative was mentioned......IMPOSSIBLE Nothing on this earth can be perfect as that would mean that it has no flaws making it divine,but the game was made by humans which means if the game is divine in it perfection.....so must be the developers,but this is impossible for a human as our brains and bodies are designed in such a way that we will make mistakes,which means we can't be divine and that this game inturn can't be perfect unless,that this game must be made by gods,wait why would they make a game unless.........THIS GAME IS CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!It all makes sense target gamers who are more likely to be atheist's and convert them to Christianity,but why?.......Unless GOD needs us to believe in him in order to exist in this reality, EVERY ONE DON"T PLAY THIS GAME,by doing so you will be mind controlled by god for his sinister purposes.

Umm.... let's see. Flaws.... ummmmmmm.

The iron sight on the pistol is kind of lame. It has a point, like a sharp point, rather than a flat top, which kind of bugged me. Some of the NPCs have the same face. You can't fly a giant dragon.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.
You,of course you would say that,your just apart of the conspiracy,aren't you,AREN'T YOU,you wrote this article which means you must be apart of of it,other wise you would not write about it,the fact that you can't think of a negative thing PROVES that I'm right,think about it your a gaming website and the people who made this game are game developers,see a connection it can't just be a coincidence that your all involved in games their is no such thing as coincidence EVERYTHING IS Connected,people open your eyes,he has obviously been bought of,how much did Irrational Games pay you...........wait the name of the company is Irrational Games,see more proof!!!!Not only that but you said the game involved people worshiping the government as gods,see what did I tell you the GODS made this as apart of their CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA by making us warm up to the idea of worship............wait the government........MY GOD THIS GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP,I can't believe the gov are apart of the conspiracy!!!!
But wait,what if it's not the gods by the Demons......OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST he's made this game to turn us into satanist's O_O
 

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MikeWehner said:
Umm.... let's see. Flaws.... ummmmmmm.

The iron sight on the pistol is kind of lame. It has a point, like a sharp point, rather than a flat top, which kind of bugged me. Some of the NPCs have the same face. You can't fly a giant dragon.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.
So... what I am hearing is that there IS a jetpack? Can you confirm?
:p
 

MikeWehner

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WarpZone said:
I watched the video again to make sure I didn't miss anything you said about Elizabeth. You talk a lot of about Elizabeth's abilities to do things like resupply and spawn in cover. You never explicitly state that it's not an Escort Mission. Maybe I should unpack what I think an "escort mission" is.
The written version of the review is significantly longer and more detailed than the video version. I explain a lot more about it in the written version. That's why we have "Read the full review at Escapist.com" at the end of the video, and save the score for the written review as well ;)
 

wooty

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Had this pre-ordered since I first heard about it, glad to hear its up to spec.

Plus 15 hours for an (I hate to use this phrase after what you've just said, so please people, don't text beat me) FPS is near unheard of recently. Re-play value is also a great bonus.