Bioshock: Infinite unveiled!

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tlozoot

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It's truly shocking to see how adverse people are to this.

It's too unrealistic!
It's too different to Rapture!
A city in the sky is somehow a bad concept!


Nobody really knows enough to yay or nay this, but I trust that Irational Games have what it takes to make this an interesting game at the very least. It already sounds like an interesting narrative, from what little we know. To be honest they'd have to set it in a completely unpromising enviroment like a series of cardboard boxes for me to condemn it right off the bat.
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
Cowabungaa said:
We do. IF IT'S A GODDAMN PREQUEL!!!

90% Of the entire BioShock universe is practically untouched. We haven't seen the city get build, we haven't seen the city in it's prime and alive and we haven't witnessed it's fall into insanity.

Why ON EARTH they did not use that for the second game?! All that material has so much potential for a brilliant and unique BioShock game! Yet we got a BioShock 1 clone with some tweaks. What a shame what a shame.

[sub]Disclaimer: I did enjoy BioShock 2, but in the end I was still disappointed.[/sub]
My first thought is that that giant flying city fell down into the ocean, where they made Rapture out of it.

Kinda makes sense, seeing as it's set about 40 years earlier than the first game.

EDIT: Maybe they rebuilt the jet engines to those vehicles they use in Rapture!
I highly doubt that, since Rapture buildings were Art Deco, and nothing like the buildings we saw on the trailer.

From an interview with the game producer, I get that they are trying to recreate the whole sense of awe and discovery of the first Bioshock, so they build something entirely different to Rapture. It sounded interesting... I can imagine the future of the series being like Final Fantasy (common themes, in entirely different/disconected universes)
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
hermes200 said:
I highly doubt that, since Rapture buildings were Art Deco, and nothing like the buildings we saw on the trailer.
Tsk tsk tsk.

I said he rebuilt it of the basis of Columbia.
Not that Columbia IS Rapture.
Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...

Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
 

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that was... FUCKING AWESOME, im getting a little over hyped by it but it looks awesome, a new world, with new enemies and a story explaining A: what happened after Raptures fall or B: the inspiration of rapture.... ok im calm now, in fact im now just Meh until i see more and show us some of the toys, its just going to be one of "those" releases. Graphics are pretty though.
 

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I'm going to refer to Yahtzee on this one

"A good sequel (like Half-life 2, Silent Hill 2, Charlie Rovers 3) is one that uses the original as a jumping off point for a whole new story with brand new technology. While a bad sequel merely wallows in the original."(Bioshock 2 review)

Bioshock 2 itself simply stayed within the confines of Rapture and didn't/couldn't advance the story because the major leaders were already dead.
Bioshock Infinite on the other had looks to be making the original a jumping off point.
 

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So it's basically Bioshock in the air? Way to keep the originality train going, Irrational Games.
 

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I'm gald it's not in Rapture. I sighed a little when I first heard that they were going to continue making Bioshock games.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Rapture in Bioshock, but there's only so much you can squeeze from it.
Colombia looks like a great new evironment, and I'm loving the "mech-big daddy".
All in all this looks great and I shall eagerly await it, the only thing that bothers me slightly is how it fits into the existing story.
We've always been told that Rapture was Andrew Ryan's brain-child.
But if this is set fifty or so years before the birth of Rapture, then does that mean Andrew Ryan didn't actually come up with the idea, but simply borrowed it?
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
hermes200 said:
Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...

Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
Yes, OUT OF IT. Not from it. There's a difference.
After a thing like that crashes, there wouldn't be a lot left.
He used what was left as a basis.

And they must be in the same universe.
It's called Bioshock.
The same as Final Fantasy, or Tales of... Bioshock is like a brand.
 

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From the depths of the sea to .........a flying city?

Is the Bioshock franchise really grasping at straws already?
So your willing to accept an underwater city, but a city in the clouds, now that's just too much?

Anyways, it looks good. I look forward to what they do with the unique setting and where the story goes. However I do have 2 concerns:

1 - That new Big Daddy has a human heart in him. I really hope they don't pull some BS where a older character like Andrew Ryan has been rebuilt as a big daddy that would just be lame.

2 - The synopsis on the site says the game will involve saving a little girl from the city and forming a bond with her....sounds a bit too much like Bioshock 2's story to me.

I look forward to this game and seeing more footage of it.
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
hermes200 said:
Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...

Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
Yes, OUT OF IT. Not from it. There's a difference.
After a thing like that crashes, there wouldn't be a lot left.
He used what was left as a basis.

And they must be in the same universe.
It's called Bioshock.
You know, I've seen you post this theory a couple of times, and I misunderstood it every single time until now... I thought you were trying to say that Andrew simply modified a sunken Columbia into Rapture, and as you say quite clearly here, that is a pretty silly idea since Columbia would be pretty smashed up. So... Now I'm confused, because there are two theories I consider plausible...

1. Andrew Ryan did not base Rapture out of the remnants of Columbia, because Columbia represented the very pillar of nationalistic pride and greed, something he built Rapture to get away from

or

2. Andrew Ryan built Rapture out of the remnants of a crashed Columbia due to the symbolism of the "downfall of decadence" that could be interpreted from Columbia crashing, and he could use that as a basis for founding a society that would be the opposite.
 

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What I don't get is how they will, introduce the "plasmid" powers when Adam wasn't around back then, yet alone in reach. But the mechanic powers don't seem fitting for a BIOshock game.
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
Maeshone said:
You know, I've seen you post this theory a couple of times, and I misunderstood it every single time until now... I thought you were trying to say that Andrew simply modified a sunken Columbia into Rapture, and as you say quite clearly here, that is a pretty silly idea since Columbia would be pretty smashed up. So... Now I'm confused, because there are two theories I consider plausible...

1. Andrew Ryan did not base Rapture out of the remnants of Columbia, because Columbia represented the very pillar of nationalistic pride and greed, something he built Rapture to get away from

or

2. Andrew Ryan built Rapture out of the remnants of a crashed Columbia due to the symbolism of the "downfall of decadence" that could be interpreted from Columbia crashing, and he could use that as a basis for founding a society that would be the opposite.
I'm thinking more like "America couldn't get this city to work! I'll one up them by making it work UNDER WATER".

Or something.
Hell yeah. I can totally see Andrew Ryan being nothing more than a petty "one-upper". That must be how his beef with Fontaine started in beginning as well!