Bioshock: Infinite

[tlozoot]

You're too late, mate. A thread like that already existed.

EDIT: As I have said in a similar thread, I'll accept it if they rename it Aeroshock.

Hmm...can't remember the last game being called 'Aquashock'.

Bioshock is much more than Rapture, at least according to the creative lead over at Irrational.

Also, I don't think Irrational games made the first or second one (though I could be wrong). If they didn't, why the hell would they be the ones who decide that?

Though I wouldn't be nearly as hard on the game if they named it Aeroshock, as that would be awesome.

Irrational did make the first Bioshock, although they were called 2K Boston at the time. I think 2K Marin handled the second one.

All that matters for me is that Ken Levine - the man who wants his games to have a deep, interesting story - is the creative lead on this game. If he's the same guy that penned the first game, I've goth faith that infinite will be worth experiencing.

 

[squidbuddy99]

Why are they making 'Bioshock: Only It's IN SPAAAACE'? I've been waiting for someone to make a Bioshock Prequel. I'd like to play a game during the revolution and witness the fall of Rapture first hand.

However, I'm willing to be interested in this game as long as it stays original.

 

[The Ambrosian]

Now I really liked the first Bioshock. It's one my favorite games on the 360, despite it's many flaws.

Yet this....I just can't like this. Mainly because this doesn't look like it has anything remotely interesting in it. My favorite thing about the first game was the city itself. You could consider Rapture to be the best "character" in the game. The environment was perfect for the kind of horror setting. You could really feel a lot just by walking down the ruined halls of the once great city. Now here comes this game, which takes you out of Rapture, essentially throwing away the one thing I liked about it. And if Columbia is supposed to be just like Rapture, than they're probably going to just going to make it worse.

Though I'll admit I don't know much about the game, mostly because I'm not interested enough to learn more about it. Also one thing that really bothers me about that trailer is the Big Daddy....thing. It looks like it's wearing a diving suit. Why the hell would something in a sky city be wearing anything that resembles a diving suit?

I really can't understand how brightly coloured buildings and flags, floating in a blue sky over a light environment can really capture Bioshocks creepy atmosphere. But perhaps we're judging too much from the trailer. We know next too nothing about thins game, I don't know perhaps it's atmospheric inside the buildings?

 

[Sronpop]

I love it, its the setting and game I never knew I wanted. its release can not come soon enough. Its got Ken Levine behind it too so you know its gonna be good.

 

[Angerwing]

Look at the metalic fingers and the heart set behind a glass door. This isn't a monster in a diving suit, it's a steampunk robot.

And it looks like it is wearing a diving suit. The shape of the boots, the helmet, the general bulky appearance of the entire thing; it's a diving suit. They're obviously just trying to "recapture" the essence of the Big Daddy, and in my opinion failing to do so. It made sense for Big Daddy's to be wearing those suits in the first game. They did work out side of Rapture. I can't imagine why you would want such a cumbersome, clunky robot/person/whatever stumbling through your sky city. There's no practical reason for it, since you don't have to build the suit to withstand the crushing pressure of the ocean floor.

From the news article on it, it tells you that the city of Columbia was discovered to be an American 'Death Star'. That indicates to me that the Big Daddy of Columbia is heavily armoured due to being perhaps a war engineer/soldier. That makes sense to me. Also he seemed moderately agile, which again backs up the reasoning. Rather than the thick, heavy gloves the Big Daddy used, he had metal, jointed gloves, which makes sense as an engineer. As for the boots being so big, I think that's just because he's god-damn huge. Did you see his hand compared to the Plasmid girl? Boots of that size on someone of that size doesn't really seem too far-fetched.

 

[Kapol]

You're too late, mate. A thread like that already existed.

EDIT: As I have said in a similar thread, I'll accept it if they rename it Aeroshock.

Hmm...can't remember the last game being called 'Aquashock'.

Bioshock is much more than Rapture, at least according to the creative lead over at Irrational.

Also, I don't think Irrational games made the first or second one (though I could be wrong). If they didn't, why the hell would they be the ones who decide that?

Though I wouldn't be nearly as hard on the game if they named it Aeroshock, as that would be awesome.

Irrational did make the first Bioshock, although they were called 2K Boston at the time. I think 2K Marin handled the second one.

All that matters for me is that Ken Levine - the man who wants his games to have a deep, interesting story - is the creative lead on this game. If he's the same guy that penned the first game, I've goth faith that infinite will be worth experiencing.

Ah, that's why I didn't think they made it.

Well, I'm not saying it won't be a good game. I'm willing to bet it will be a good and likely interesting game. My problem is that I don't like series that don't actually deserve to be a series, like most Final Fantasy games, which aren't linked in any way most the time. I don't like series like that. And I might be proven wrong. They might be able to make a great game that manages to bring some major plot-points from Bioshock or Bioshock 2 into play. I just highly doubt it.

 

[Kurokami]

Now I really liked the first Bioshock. It's one my favorite games on the 360, despite it's many flaws.

Yet this....I just can't like this. Mainly because this doesn't look like it has anything remotely interesting in it. My favorite thing about the first game was the city itself. You could consider Rapture to be the best "character" in the game. The environment was perfect for the kind of horror setting. You could really feel a lot just by walking down the ruined halls of the once great city. Now here comes this game, which takes you out of Rapture, essentially throwing away the one thing I liked about it. And if Columbia is supposed to be just like Rapture, than they're probably going to just going to make it worse.

Though I'll admit I don't know much about the game, mostly because I'm not interested enough to learn more about it. Also one thing that really bothers me about that trailer is the Big Daddy....thing. It looks like it's wearing a diving suit. Why the hell would something in a sky city be wearing anything that resembles a diving suit?

Truth be told I'm a bit skeptical of any game that tries to separate itself by avoiding numbers yet still grasping onto the main title, its like the emo kid that calls out for your attention and then scorns you for it. "Infinite" itself seems a bit silly to me too, but I will say that I am really looking forward to what happens there. The idea is that this 'rapture' (actually called collumbia, or something of the sort) was supported by America, as such I think it will be fascinating to see its back story and how it fits into the world. Rapture was isolated from everywhere else, which was great for atmosphere, but the fact that this isn't still keeps me hopeful for some nice background and maybe a different way of making the player piss themselves.

 

[etherlance]

Wow as a Fan of the previous bioshocks this looks amazing with the floating city in the sky theme.

Anyone know if there is a release date for this yet???

 

[TheComedown]

-snip-

It's pretty obvious that it's just a pathetic attempt to remake the Big Daddy, since that is apparently the most important thing in Bioshock. If there was a logical reason for these guys to be wearing bulky, large, cumbersome suits in sky town I wouldn't berate it. But I can't think of a single one, and none of the reasons I've heard make sense.

Speaking of which, the whole trailer is reminiscent of the original BioShock trailer. The main character is mercilessly mauled by the Big Daddy, and there life appears to be over. Then they find a way out of there predicament, only to be swiftly killed moments later. So it looks like there just taking Bioshock and shoving it into the sky. At least that's the impression the trailer gives.

Well maybe the reason it resembles the original Bioshock, IS BECAUSE ITS STILL BIOSHOCK. You see, before the word Infinite in the title it also says the word BIOSHOCK, of course its going to try and capture some of the feel of the first games, that's what franchises are about. A Bioshock game without a big steam punk monster thing would be like a halo game without space marines.

How do you know there isn't a logical reason for the big steam punk monsters, we know incredibly little if not nothing about the story except your writing the whole thing off with little to no information whatsoever about the game.

He's not in a diving suit; he's wearing an overcoat for God's sake.

Except that it looks like big, bulky diving suit based on what I saw in the trailer. I'm not saying it is a diving suit, it's just something that looks almost identical to a diving suit for no other reason than "well the Big Daddies wore those in the first game so they need them in this one".

Based on two shots of its arm(open sleeve = not a diving suit) and one really really dark shot of his chest?

Again the problem is your writing everything off before you even get ANY plot information. Knowing how incredibly well the first Bioshock was wrapped up, I have no doubt that they will have it all explained rather well.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I don't understand the hate... the first one was great. The second one was alright. If all the BioShock games took place in Rapture, it would get old as it did in BioShock 2. A new setting is nice and it looks very similar to BioShock. In fact, if that was a trailer for a different game I can assure you everyone would shout "That just looks like a BioShock rip-off except in the air!" much like people are saying about X-COM right now...

 

[grimsprice]

Look at the metalic fingers and the heart set behind a glass door. This isn't a monster in a diving suit, it's a steampunk robot.

And it looks like it is wearing a diving suit. The shape of the boots, the helmet, the general bulky appearance of the entire thing; it's a diving suit. They're obviously just trying to "recapture" the essence of the Big Daddy, and in my opinion failing to do so. It made sense for Big Daddy's to be wearing those suits in the first game. They did work out side of Rapture. I can't imagine why you would want such a cumbersome, clunky robot/person/whatever stumbling through your sky city. There's no practical reason for it, since you don't have to build the suit to withstand the crushing pressure of the ocean floor.

Helmet? When did you get to see what it's head looks like?

Ot: As I said before, I trust Ken, I think he'll pull it off. It might not have the same kind of oppressed feeling to it, but I can't wait to see what it's all about.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

I'm going to buy it, but not because it is Bioshock. This game could be called "The Adventures of Jimmy and the Floating City", and I would still buy it.

I guess what I'm saying is I want to get it because it looks awesome, but I'm not going to consider it a Bioshock title

 

[jamesworkshop]

You're too late, mate. A thread like that already existed.

EDIT: As I have said in a similar thread, I'll accept it if they rename it Aeroshock.

Hmm...can't remember the last game being called 'Aquashock'.

Bioshock is much more than Rapture, at least according to the creative lead over at Irrational.

Also, I don't think Irrational games made the first or second one (though I could be wrong). If they didn't, why the hell would they be the ones who decide that?

Though I wouldn't be nearly as hard on the game if they named it Aeroshock, as that would be awesome.

Irrational did make the first Bioshock, although they were called 2K Boston at the time. I think 2K Marin handled the second one.

All that matters for me is that Ken Levine - the man who wants his games to have a deep, interesting story - is the creative lead on this game. If he's the same guy that penned the first game, I've goth faith that infinite will be worth experiencing.

Correct

Ken levine was the lead writer and creative director of bioshock 1

Jordan thomas was the lead writer and creative director of bioshock 2 and designer of Bioshocks fort frolic level


From what I understand It is still called bioshock because Ken describes bioshock as a game that is set in the "context of history" rather than an actual historical event or limited to a single place or type of enviroment.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Well maybe the reason it resembles the original Bioshock, IS BECAUSE ITS STILL BIOSHOCK. You see, before the word Infinite in the title it also says the word BIOSHOCK, of course its going to try and capture some of the feel of the first games, that's what franchises are about. A Bioshock game without a big steam punk monster thing would be like a halo game without space marines.

How do you know there isn't a logical reason for the big steam punk monsters, we know incredibly little if not nothing about the story except your writing the whole thing off with little to no information whatsoever about the game.

I'm not "writing off the whole thing", I'm analyzing the trailer and forming an opinion based on it. Which was the point of the thread. What I'm saying could easily be wrong. I never denied that. I'm just judging the trailer, which to me, failed to capture the feeling of the first game.

When I said it"resembled" the first Bioshock, I didn't mean to imply that it was a good thing. Because, in my opinion, their attempt to recapture the feeling of the original trailer with this trailer failed. The setting of these tow games is completely different, and that those make a huge difference when you consider the atmosphere the original game created. That alone makes the whole thing fall apart to me. Trying to transfer the same dark, oppressive, and threatening nature of the original trailer into the bright, shiny sky town just doesn't work for me. It does resemble the first game, but not in a good way. It's difficult for me to explain since I'm terrible with words though.

Though again, this all just based off the trailer. The game itself could still be good. I hope it will be.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Well maybe the reason it resembles the original Bioshock, IS BECAUSE ITS STILL BIOSHOCK. You see, before the word Infinite in the title it also says the word BIOSHOCK, of course its going to try and capture some of the feel of the first games, that's what franchises are about. A Bioshock game without a big steam punk monster thing would be like a halo game without space marines.

How do you know there isn't a logical reason for the big steam punk monsters, we know incredibly little if not nothing about the story except your writing the whole thing off with little to no information whatsoever about the game.

I'm not "writing off the whole thing", I'm analyzing the trailer and forming an opinion based on it. Which was the point of the thread. What I'm saying could easily be wrong. I never denied that. I'm just judging the trailer, which to me, failed to capture the feeling of the first game.

When I said it"resembled" the first Bioshock, I didn't mean to imply that it was a good thing. Because, in my opinion, their attempt to recapture the feeling of the original trailer with this trailer failed. The setting of these tow games is completely different, and that those make a huge difference when you consider the atmosphere the original game created. That alone makes the whole thing fall apart to me. Trying to transfer the same dark, oppressive, and threatening nature of the original trailer into the bright, shiny sky town just doesn't work for me. It does resemble the first game, but not in a good way. It's difficult for me to explain since I'm terrible with words though.

Though again, this all just based off the trailer. The game itself could still be good. I hope it will be.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/08/13/the-bioshock-infinite-ken-levine-interview/

I found the interview a bit more helpful all I got from the trailer was purely the artistic direction they were going to take
which looks fantastic

 

[antigodoflife]

I don't know how this game will be, because it's not made by 2K but still if anyone complains about this for being too different from bioshock, who complained about bioshock 2 being to much of the same, I'm going to chainsaw them in the stomach for being a fanboy douche.

Now with that out of the way... OH GOD, WTF! WTF IS THIS SHIT!... this I think is of one of those cases where it has the possiblity of being one of the greatest games of the generation, if it wasn't called what it is. If this was "Columbia: Infinity" and not "Bioshock: Infinity" I reckon a lot more people would fall in love with the game.

 

[TheComedown]

I don't know how this game will be, because it's not made by 2K but still if anyone complains about this for being too different from bioshock, who complained about bioshock 2 being to much of the same, I'm going to chainsaw them in the stomach for being a fanboy douche.

Wrong, Irrational are the team that made the first game, so chances are it will shit all over the second.

 

[antigodoflife]

I don't know how this game will be, because it's not made by 2K but still if anyone complains about this for being too different from bioshock, who complained about bioshock 2 being to much of the same, I'm going to chainsaw them in the stomach for being a fanboy douche.

Wrong, Irrational are the team that made the first game, so chances are it will shit all over the second.

I hadn't noticed that 2K Boston changed their name.

 

[Bruce Edwards]

This, to me, puts me in the same situation as the new X-Com.

I like the looks of the game, it has many elements that appeal to me.

But it is nicking the name of another game for marketing purposes only. That shouldn't matter to me - hell, I thought Bioshock was overrated - but for some reason it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Given Ken Levine is involved, I feel the bad taste in my mouth for this project receding.

I thought Bioshock had some promising ideas and great narrative. Hopefully this game keeps that aspect.

 

[voetballeeuw]

I'm looking forward to it, regardless of the setting. The first was awesome, second was "good". So it should be interesting to see what they do with the new setting.