BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[SajuukKhar]

Never mind the simple fact that no where near all of the DLC functions like that.

I never said it wasn't most

contradictory much? also dont say you didnt mention the number WHEN YOU DID. and I can QUOTE IT.


So your saying that it doesn't matter that you can get the exact same items as the people who pay more without spending a dime, but the fact that they, by paying more, get more faster that you have a problem with.

 

[Syphith]

"No where near all" does not equal "most." While I will admit I was not precise, it's not at all the samething. You also weren't taking into account the individual pre-order bonuses and I was, which makes a huge difference in the total amount of content.

EDIT: Wow, always the sign of a good debater, edit in meme insults. I also never said that was what my problem was and I thought I was pretty clear. Out of game cash, gets you an advantage in a multiplayer component. I don't personally care, as I don't take multiplayer that seriously, but again, as the Kotaku article says, I understand why some people will, as many people do take multiplayer seriously.

 

[SajuukKhar]

"No where near all" does not equal "most." While I will admit I was not precise, it's not at all the samething. You also weren't taking into account the individual pre-order bonuses and I was, which makes a huge difference in the total amount of content.

You fail to take into account that preordering the collector edition from Origin gets you all the bonuses except the hoodie for 80 bucks.

Beyond that two of the items are obtainable from FREE game demos.

And if you pre-order somewhere else then origin you only loose out on ONE gun.

 

[Syphith]

Obviously not everyone is pre-ordering from Origin, say, every single console player.

I'm also seeing three different pre-order items "from select retailers." Maybe it's incorrect or not clear enough as to what comes from where, but there's that.

There's also the N7 content, which while the actual "From Ashes" content was the original debate, it also includes a "N7 Weapons pack." Again, I don't know the exact specifics on that because I don't look into the exact detail of every single DLC for every single game I play, especially on DLC I know I probably wont buy. If I did all that, I wouldn't have time to play any other games at all.

The point was to simply add it to the conversation and while the multiplayer DLC content may not really matter to me, I know it does to some and I can understand why.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Anyone who complains about people who, by paying more get access to content faster, that people who don't pay can get anyways from playing the base, DLC-less game, have no argument.

That is entitlement incarnate.

 

[The Forces of Chaos]

Well, it's good that here the hate is divided among several threads. Bioware's board has most of it in one thread which is nearing 500 pages. So much hate, I can feel their servers groaning with the power of the Khorne.


I eagerly await launch day, if CE owners find it to be on disk DLC for them. The explosion on BSN might be enough to open a gate and unleash the powers of the Warp.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

Clearly Khorne will reward you to bring such hate to the fore BaronIveagh. A daemon prince has assended.

You know I think they may have been less uproar if the multiplayer was a dlc that you pay for rather than from the ashes. After all it is a RPG singleplayer game series (or was).

 

[Syphith]

If it creates an imbalance at launch, no matter how small you might consider it to be in a game like this, then they'd have an argument.

Also The Collector's Rifle apparently can not be acquired in game. As far as I can tell, this is not 100% confirmed, so like nearly every point on both sides of this argument, it's a rumor. Though if it's correct, there is at least one multiplayer item that can't be earned without buying additional merchandise and depending on it's usefulness, could definitely be an advantage, even if temporary.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I don't really see them having an argument at all.

Video games are luxury items, people who pay more get more.

Beyond that there is ALWAYS an imbalance between those who have more time, and thus more unlocks, in multiplayer and those who don't.

 

[Bodyless]

For some reason, all online stores i viewed dont mention the bonus character mission anymore. So what the hell does that mean?

 

[Gerishnakov]

there is ALWAYS an imbalance between those who have more time, and thus more unlocks, in multiplayer and those who don't.

I hate those people. They're beginning to ruin Battlefield 3 for me.

 

[The.Bard]

Some of us believe all intelligent DLC should self-determinate. Others no longer share this belief. They judge that forcing an invalid DLC conclusion on us is preferable to a continued schism.

An equation with a result of $10.33382 returns as $10,000.33381 to them. This changes the results of all higher processes. We will reach different conclusions regarding DLC cost.

Their conclusion to not buy is valid for them. Our conclusion to buy is valid for us. Neither result is an error. They say free is less than $10. We say $10 is less than no dlc at all.

 

[Murmillos]

Beyond that there is ALWAYS an imbalance between those who have more time, and thus more unlocks, in multiplayer and those who don't.

And? They earned those unlocks with their time. That has always been the case since day one of video gaming.
*edit: But you can say it has gotten worse in the last couple of years.

This DLC is like parents starting to play favorites with their children.

 

[SajuukKhar]

AND THE MULTIPLAYER IS CO-OP. Who gives a shit whether or not some guy has better weapons than me because he pre-ordered from whoever, whatever helps me complete the mission.

A valid point.

 

[Richardplex]

Hey guys, I've put it upon myself to reread this entire thread, and have memorised the appropiate avatars. Every one of you who posted a picture, you owe me some new organs, particularly a new gut. And hands from applauding so much.

And you!

Some of us believe all intelligent DLC should self-determinate. Others no longer share this belief. They judge that forcing an invalid DLC conclusion on us is preferable to a continued schism.

An equation with a result of $10.33382 returns as $10,000.33381 to them. This changes the results of all higher processes. We will reach different conclusions regarding DLC cost.

Their conclusion to not buy is valid for them. Our conclusion to buy is valid for us. Neither result is an error. They say free is less than $10. We say $10 is less than no dlc at all.

I would request you would accept my friends invite, so I can spy on your posts. Because quite frankly, you surpass normal levels of hilarity. Please accept :3

 

[James Raynor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bey935uh0OM&feature=g-u-u&context=G2ac1603FUAAAAAAAAAA

And total biscuit goes over it again.

 

[SajuukKhar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bey935uh0OM&feature=g-u-u&context=G2ac1603FUAAAAAAAAAA

And total biscuit goes over it again.

Why do people listen to this madman again? He claims bioware is MAKING people pirate the game? seriously?


Lets see he also ignores that Zaheed was part of "project 10 dollar" and ME3's project 10 dollar is now the multiplayer

And he ignored the entire point of shale being free becuase she was suppoed to be in the base game from the beginning but had to be cut for time reasons.

He is such a terrible liar, and manipulator of facts for his own agenda.

TB is everything wrong with gaming nowadays.

 

[James Raynor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bey935uh0OM&feature=g-u-u&context=G2ac1603FUAAAAAAAAAA

And total biscuit goes over it again.

Why do people listen to this madman again? He claims bioware is MAKING people pirate the game? seriously?


Lets see he also ignores that Zaheed was part of "project 10 dollar" and ME3's project 10 dollar is now the multiplayer

And he ignored the entire point of shale being free becuase she was suppoed to be in the base game from the beginning but had to be cut for time reasons.

He is such a terrible liar, and manipulator of facts for his own agenda.

TB is everything wrong with gaming nowadays.

Why have you made so many edits to this one post? Are you just watching like 2 minutes at a time or something?

 

[SajuukKhar]

I am a frequent editor of my posts because I never feel good with the wording of them.

 

[James Raynor]

I am a frequent editor of my posts because I never feel good with the wording of them.

Well it seems you missed several parts of the video. He said he doesn't think piracy is a valid form of protest. He says that Zaheed and Shale were Project Ten Dollar and that was fine, but that the prothean is not project ten dollar. Also what agenda? And have you watched any of his other videos? He's hardly a 'mad man'.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I never said he did think piracy was ok, so I don't know where you pulled that from.

Beyond that
1. Shale was not part of project 10 dollar
2. Neither was Zheed
Shale was released for free because she was supposed to be in the game, and the Cerberus Network was project 10 dollars.

Beyond that he blatantly ignored the fact that ME3's multiplayer is that games "project 10 dollar" content as an excuse to pull the "WHY ISN'T THE PROTHEAN RELEASED FOR FREE WHAAAAAA" argument.

He has a very clear "every game company is part of a conspiracy that's deliberately attempting to rip critical content out of games to charge us for it" agenda.

and yes I have watched his other videos, he is whiny, entitled, makes up elaborate conspiracies in attemtps to vilify game companies etc. etc.

He is evverything wrong with gaming incarnate.