Birthers

[Deadpoolsbrain]

These people call themselves birthers. Basically they are upset GOPs that think President Barack Obama wasn't born in America despite the fact he was. Am I the only one that think these people are utterly insane?

Here's a link to their page http://www.birthers.org/

Edit: Some of them believe that his father not being american somehow makes him not an American.

 

[Valiance]

Whether or not they're correct or not, or if you're correct or not, they're going about handling this the wrong way.

 

[Mookie_Magnus]

These people call themselves birthers. Basically they are upset GOPs that think President Barack Obama wasn't born in America despite the fact he was. Am I the only one that think these people are utterly insane?

Here's a link to their page http://www.birthers.org/

Edit: Some of them believe that his father not being american somehow makes him not an American.

Someone's been watching the Colbert Report. But yeah, I agree... they're being silly. He wouldn't have been able to run for President if he had not presented legal papers. They're just too thick-headed to understand that just because they themselves did not see those papers, doesn't mean that they don't exist.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

 

[madcap2112]

Yeah, let's just ignore them and get on with things that actually matter. Let's fix the economy, education, the war, the BCS and everything else before we waste time questioning the already proven citizenship of the president.

 

[Soulgaunt]

These people call themselves birthers. Basically they are upset GOPs that think President Barack Obama wasn't born in America despite the fact he was. Am I the only one that think these people are utterly insane?

Here's a link to their page http://www.birthers.org/

Edit: Some of them believe that his father not being american somehow makes him not an American.

Someone's been watching the Colbert Report...

That's exactly what I thought of when I saw the thread title.

 

[lostclause]

Yeah, let's just ignore them and get on with things that actually matter. Let's fix the economy, education, the war, the BCS and everything else before we waste time questioning the already proven citizenship of the president.

This is the way to go, unless these 'birthers' think the economy can be fixed by wasting money, both public and their own, on a legal trial over whether or not Barack Obama is American.
Also I think he should be considered an american even if his father wasn't.

 

[Alex_P]

What is there to say, really?

The whole birth-certificate thing isn't a cause, it's an excuse. The movement is about one thing: obsessively resenting Obama's election. Lying to yourself really hard won't make him magically go away (some people tried that with Bush; it didn't help).

"I do love how this issue is bringing forth the haters and the idiots in a readily identifiable way. Lou Dobbs is one of them." -- Gene Weingarten

...

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

I see this phrase a lot and it's kinda wrong.
There's evidence and there's proof. Old-timey absolutist logic deals with proof. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.
Absence of evidence, however, is evidence of absence. That's what Bayes' Theorem is all about.

(Of course, in this case, evidence is actually present.)

-- Alex

 

[madcap2112]

Yeah, let's just ignore them and get on with things that actually matter. Let's fix the economy, education, the war, the BCS and everything else before we waste time questioning the already proven citizenship of the president.

This is the way to go, unless these 'birthers' think the economy can be fixed by wasting money, both public and their own, on a legal trial over whether or not Barack Obama is American.
Also I think he should be considered an american even if his father wasn't.

All the birthers are about is distracting the public so they'll focus on insignificant matters like these and Obama's public rating goes down. It's the same thing they were saying during the election. Don't know why they're sticking with it, though; no one cared about it then, and no one cares about it now. It's a bit difficult to care about whether or not the President was born in America (even though it's been proven that he was) when you've been laid off and you're worried about losing your home.

 

[axia777]

Oh look! Pissed of super right wing Republicans who are pissed because the general American public thinks that they are all a bunch of asshats! What ever. Nothing to see here people. The President and his people can handle this. Unlike Clinton who gave them all sorts of things to lob Obama is not going to give them ammo to fire at his back side. He is just to classy for that. They know this an have to cook up bullshit to try and discredit him with. They are also super pissed that George Bush Jr. and DICK Cheney made them all look like assholes with all the super rotten bullshit that they pulled.

 

[lostclause]

All the birthers are about is distracting the public so they'll focus on insignificant matters like these and Obama's public rating goes down. It's the same thing they were saying during the election. Don't know why they're sticking with it, though; no one cared about it then, and no one cares about it now. It's a bit difficult to care about whether or not the President was born in America (even though it's been proven that he was) when you've been laid off and you're worried about losing your home.

Hadn't thought about it that way myself but in that case it's not working, it's backfiring because it's making me more irritated at them than Obama. However my opinion probably doesn't count for much in this case since I'm not American.

 

[madcap2112]

All the birthers are about is distracting the public so they'll focus on insignificant matters like these and Obama's public rating goes down. It's the same thing they were saying during the election. Don't know why they're sticking with it, though; no one cared about it then, and no one cares about it now. It's a bit difficult to care about whether or not the President was born in America (even though it's been proven that he was) when you've been laid off and you're worried about losing your home.

Hadn't thought about it that way myself but in that case it's not working, it's backfiring because it's making me more irritated at them than Obama. However my opinion probably doesn't count for much in this case since I'm not American.

I'm quite sick of it all. I don't agree with everything Obama's done, I never thought he was the superman the media made him into, but it's ridiculous that there are still people who want to slander him just to bring him down rather than helping him fix this country. Partisanship and bickering is pretty much the last thing I want to see and hear right now.

 

[Jaythulhu]

Then entire right wing of american politics are absolute loonatics. Recently I saw some douche on fox agreeing with some other douche who said the only hope for america was if osama bin laden set off a couple of nukes in the middle of new york or california.

Our right-wingers may be idiots, but yours seem to be off the deep end, whacked out, fundamentalist religious nutjobs.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

they are rather funny and really misinformed, the Colbert Report and the Daily show have done some funny things on it. i really laughed at the fact that they're claiming a "certificate of live birth" is not a birth certificate

the funnier issue is they mention he's a dual citizen but the United States doesn't recognize dual citizenship, yes you can hold them but according to America you are a citizen of the United States and only that