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BentNeatly

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So theres this video. Here's a link, sorry if there are better around this is just what i have right now.

http://video.ap.org/?f=AP&pid=X_Lqv1XbI2Ud_7Ab997w2zAFMe6Q5fen

so... And anyone with factual counter points,cuz i have very little facts on the story, correct me.

It seems to me that this video shows what looks to be one guy on a bus with students, all of whom are black? i couldnt find another white guy in the video so correct me if im wrong.

Now the title is "bus Beating: racially motivated?", so of course i clicked it thinkin i would see some kind of hate crime against some poor outnumbered black kid in a southern hick town. But i was sure surprised.

This skinny white kids gets attacked by the person sitting beside him. He does not respond with any kind of punch or swing. This attack reults in the kid holding his face in place so he can hit him. At least three hard times. He tries to shake it off, and mind his own business, but then some kid across the isle smacks him, then gets out of his seat and begins punching him in the face, pretty damn well too. The kid takes at least 4 bad shots to the jaw. Behind him and in front of him, kids smile

So i have a couple of issues. Why is the title so ambiguous? Why is this thuggish behavior among youths so prevalent, and apparently enjoyed even by onlookers of the same age? And if this was a black kid getting beat, would i have had to travel to the bowls of MSNBC to find the story?

Bonus question: do you think Kanye and Lil Mama had anything to do with it? You think im joking, and i am, but what if?
 

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and this is why assigned seats in elelmentary are a plumb good idea. wretched little monsters, thellot of them (all children, not just the black children)
 

Pandalisk

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People generally pick on the minority

That or its the dragging up of history that should have long ago been forgotten, but we cant do that cant we.

And sadly, yes im pretty sure if this was a black kid being attacked by a group of white kids it would be far more public in the media.

Such is our world, its somewhat fucked.

8-Bit_Jack said:
and this is why assigned seats in elelmentary are a plumb good idea. wretched little monsters, thellot of them (all children, not just the black children)
This Doesnt usually stem from children, you cant blame children, They have role models, people in their lifes, which mold their mindset, And these role models are Adults amazingly enough, that or older children. assigned seats do nothing but further the gap between two races, What you need to do is educate them, and educate them well.
 

Scolar Visari

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No, if it was a black kid being beat MSNBC would break the sound barrier getting it on air. However, because it is a "reverse hate crime" it's generally regarded as less important.

About the kids, the "thug" culture/lifestyle is only becoming ever more popular. Poor youths see it as a way to quickly gain the material goods and respect that are so hard to come by in those areas. "Thug" culture/lifestyle has also spread to the middle/upper class where they see it as a way to project a tough guy facade.
 

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I'm actually rather interested on waiting and seeing if this does come up in the media yet. Yes there would have been a media uproar if it was the black child being picked on; but this leaves open an interesting question. If the white kid had chose to defend himself and beat up one of the agitators, what would be the media response?
 

El Poncho

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You wait, that kid will one day go bloody mental on everyone who was on that bus and go on an epic rampage with a sword or maybe a bow? bows and arrows don't get used much anymore.
 

Megacherv

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That linked to some video about Beyonce and Taylor Swift. That makes no sense.
 

BentNeatly

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Zetsubou said:
I'm actually rather interested on waiting and seeing if this does come up in the media yet. Yes there would have been a media uproar if it was the black child being picked on; but this leaves open an interesting question. If the white kid had chose to defend himself and beat up one of the agitators, what would be the media response?
I think a more interesting question than that, and probably one this poor kid was thinking about to, was that if he struck one of these kids, what would the others do?
 

Pandalisk

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poncho14 said:
You wait, that kid will one day go bloody mental on everyone who was on that bus and go on an epic rampage with a sword or maybe a bow? bows and arrows don't get used much anymore.
If that did happen it would be a hate crime against blacks and paraded on the news, when we people learn, its not the skin colour he hated, its the basterd under the skin he hated.
 

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Megacherv said:
That linked to some video about Beyonce and Taylor Swift. That makes no sense.
It's underneath that, like right underneath it. You couldn't have taken 2 seconds?
 

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It is not ambiguous at all. The title is showing a video and asking you to describe if the attack was racially motivated. Do you think it's not a hate crime because the guy is white and the attackers were black but it WOULD be a hate crime if it was white attackers on a black guy? If so- you, sir, are a racist.

The attack might not be a hate crime, as in they may have had other reasons than race. But if the reasoning WAS race- it's a hate crime.
 

BentNeatly

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I just wanna add that i in no way see this as a racial thing. I see it as two hateful people beating on the odd kid out. I just wanna know what culture these kids are a part of that might glorify that kind of thing, might promote being a thug, acting without thinking?

What cultural clique right now... might produce these thuggish effects... in the youth who choose to greet it with open arms...

Bonus point remembered... Does Kanye have anything to do with this? thought experiment. Go!
 

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BentNeatly said:
Bonus point remembered... Does Kanye have anything to do with this? thought experiment. Go!
YO IMMA SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT ALABAMA HAD THE BEST RACIST BEATING OF ALL TIME.

Awful, awful people. Some will have thought "this is wrong" but done nothing. Cowards, every last one of them.
 

Xojins

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I think it's just stupid that whenever there's any kind of violence between people of different racial backgrounds, everyone assumes that race was a prime factor. I'm sure there was more to this than, "Hey look there's whitey, lets beat the shit out of him." Also there's no audio for the video, so you don't know what was said prior to the fight.

People need to stop assuming it's about race and saying "No one's making a big deal because it's reverse discrimination." It's ignorant to hold a view like that.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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*Sigh* Here we go...

Well I saw at least five or six white people on that bus, and I also can't see his friend hitting the boy, but I can see him getting excited because there is a fight. The same with the boy at the back. Fights between children get all of them riled up, this is pretty much fact.

The kids (in general) are assholes, but this doesn't seem racially motivated to me at all. This is making something out of next to nothing.

Now, 7 more pages of misinterpretation kthnx?
 

Xyphon

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It seemed instigated to me. A part of the video shows the beaten kid sitting down, turning his head to the African American sitting next to him and saying something to him.
 

Syndef

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Just kids being kids. When there were fights at my elementary school (hell, even in middle school), EVERYONE (even children from the outlying areas of the playground/quad) would rush to the scene and start chanting and cheering.

The only reason why we're so inclined to see racism in this particular video is because our society made us so god-damn jumpy about the racism issue, so now we're seeing it fucking everywhere, even if it's not there.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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EchetusXe said:
BentNeatly said:
Bonus point remembered... Does Kanye have anything to do with this? thought experiment. Go!
YO IMMA SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT ALABAMA HAD THE BEST RACIST BEATING OF ALL TIME.

Awful, awful people. Some will have thought "this is wrong" but done nothing. Cowards, every last one of them.
It's not really a case of cowardice, children are bloodthirsty. When a fight breaks out, most of them want to see a good scrap. It's like that for every school. For example...

*strong language*

However I think this teacher is an absolute ledge [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ledge]...

BentNeatly said:
I just wanna add that i in no way see this as a racial thing. I see it as two hateful people beating on the odd kid out. I just wanna know what culture these kids are a part of that might glorify that kind of thing, might promote being a thug, acting without thinking?

What cultural clique right now... might produce these thuggish effects... in the youth who choose to greet it with open arms...

Bonus point remembered... Does Kanye have anything to do with this? thought experiment. Go!
And now I just realised what you're getting at. The blanket answer is....none. Or all of them if you want. Children are violent by disposition. If you're trying to blame this on kanye (in the sense of music and celebrities being to blame for this child's actions who's intentions we don't even know about), it makes even less sense because his music isn't violent, and neither is he.

And if we're going with a what if here, quite frankly if you're implying what I think you're implying, I'm disappointed.