I dunno I didn't bring it up, ask those who did? I was responding to someone in that post you quoted. Look at the posts above it.
All they're doing is taking a standard regular term/abbreviation and trying to use it as an insult or pejorative. Again.
Isn't that how most insults come to be though? Like a hoe is a gardening tool, originally.
Sometimes yes, and sometimes no.
You brought up the conniving pandering. And yes, I watched the video which also talks about woke pandering compared to wokeness that isn't pandering, and also fails to give examples of this woke pandering, only mentioning that Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't do this. But then the video also talks about how Western game studios need to look to China, because Black Myth: Wukong, eventhough most of China's gaming industry is just as laden with mobile catcha crap as the Western industry is with microtransactions. The whole bloody thing comes across as the usual 'China knows what good pure entertainment is, not like those Western games and movies' that the typical crowd who get pissed at seeing [see below] always spout.
I just put the tag on it, I didn't bring it up, I just clarified what it was that they were already discussing. I coined the phrase more so than came up with the idea, the idea was there already and everyone intuitively understood it.
Exactly why I was calling out Destin's statement and video. He actually took his argument and shot it in the foot. After saying the Twitter is not reality statement only to go in and say how BG 3 avoids pandering, even though it panders to plenty and is super inclusive. He never elaborates on this. As far as i'm concerned, he's just another pundit with a "professional look". I had similar problems with him before in the past, so I really don't trust him.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to put a question mark behind any 'I don't think in terms of...' statement. Also, I didn't introduce it to this conversation, the video did, and you responded to it.
And I was asking for examples of these kinds of games. And don't give me Duke Nukem Forever, nobody talks about that game being anything.
Oh, I admit I didn't need to come in here with boxing gloves on, but it wasn't because of shadows. At least, not my own.
I chose duke nukem because that's a game that does this thing I describe but it doesn't do it in a politically correct or palatable way, so as to illustrate that it's not about a game just having gay people in it, which was your initial contention. And yeah obviously nobody talks about that game being anything. Cause it just used something it thought people are fond of as a way of masking its failings. And I contrasted that with Senran Kagura which is aplomb in celebration of its plump hometown. In that game, the content is there cause it's supposed to be. It's not a wallpaper, it's the walls.
In MGS4 there's a bit about getting kids used to war with videogames to get them to become soldiers, it's one of the very first things in the intro and it's a plot by the Patriots to generate more profit through conflict. Like it's one of those absurd fantasy evil things that fits in MGS but it actually sorta happened in reality too which is crazy to think about.
Yeah but, it was purely intended as cautionary commentary in Kojima’s mind AFAIK (and not the first time he’s been ahead of the curve). Nothing that spilled over into the real world of CIA ties or military recruitment and what have you.
Yeah of course. I'm just always reminded of that warning being cogent enough to be true, when at the time it felt like an exaggerated impossibility. I wasn't saying that MGS4 was itself compromised or anything. If anything it's the main opponent of such schemes.
Ahem.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Kojima is a guy who is interested in a lot of subjects and clearly does quite a bit of reading and a whole lot of thinking on those subjects. And much of the time a lot of it isn't all that clever and some of it downright wrong. I'm currently playing MGS1 again, a good game, make no mistake, but there's a lot statements on anthropology and genetics in there that are just straight up incorrect and poorly researched.
Well, you can and I'm sure some do to just make the experience consistent since the gloves add weight to your hands. Not a lot obviously, but you know anything you can do at the heavier weight you can do with the lesser weight.
This tangent regarding military shooters got a bit derailed I think, and I could’ve articulated my original point a bit better. It had sounded to me like Dreiko was alluding to MGS4 being influential in stuff like America’s Army, CIA ties, recruitment, etc. when really it was a very isolated, albeit extravagant warning about such things.Ahem.
America's Army - Wikipedia
Kojima is a guy who is interested in a lot of subjects and clearly does quite a bit of reading and a whole lot of thinking on those subjects. And much of the time a lot of it isn't all that clever and some of it downright wrong. I'm currently playing MGS1 again, a good game, make no mistake, but there's a lot statements on anthropology and genetics in there that are just straight up incorrect and poorly researched.
That said, what Kojima does have a pretty solid grasp on is the impact of media on people and society, quite possibly because, hey, that's the field he's been working in for most of his life. While the worldbuilding in MGS4 is mostly very broad satire on the War of Terror, that part was barely exaggerated.
