Black Ops 2 Is Like A Rich Jerk

CarlMin

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FallenMessiah88 said:
It's true that wasted potential does seem to be a big issue amongst AAA games these days. I still don't agree with Yahtzee's take on "white privilege" or "hite guilt" though.
Yeah, it seems like the entire gaming community is using AAA in the wrong context. See, what you just said is "wasted potential does seem to be a big issue amongst high-quality games. It just doesn't make sense semantically.
 

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CarlMinez said:
FallenMessiah88 said:
It's true that wasted potential does seem to be a big issue amongst AAA games these days. I still don't agree with Yahtzee's take on "white privilege" or "hite guilt" though.
Yeah, it seems like the entire gaming community is using AAA in the wrong context. See, what you just said is "wasted potential does seem to be a big issue amongst high-quality games. It just doesn't make sense semantically.
I am aware that AAA means that something is of excellent quality. However, it really depends on who you ask. Some people will say that it refers to the games' quality, while others will say that it has more to do with budget or sales or how broad the market appeal is.
 

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I always thought that a triple AAA game meant that it simply had a lot of cash behind it.

Why does people still expect him to review competitive multiplayer when he is very vocal about not liking competitive? Besides, if the game's main atraction is multiplayer, then why does it have a tacked on single-player campaign? Why not just straight multiplayer from the get go? As for zombies, I'm pretty sure he found similar to the first one or just alright, so it's not worth talking about.
 

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Gearhead mk2 said:
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Some Asshole said:
Maybe COD:BLOPS games are actually a cunning ploy. Most of the people who want to ban video games are hard right conservatives; well, what if we create a game that mainly appeals to far right neo-con players? Perhaps all these games that are getting banned for violence, are banned because some of the victims of said violence are good, God fearin' white folks. What if these games get into the hands of minorities? Why, it could give 'em all sorts of ideas!

If we make a game that is pro-USA, anti-[everyone else], pro-military and has everything that those who usually speak out against violent games actually loves, in star-spangled high definition, maybe they'll all stop complaining and might actually pick up a controller. Perhaps COD:BLOPS3 should have a level where you have to blow up an abortion clinic and have a tower defence section at the US/Mexico border and this game will be bought in bulk by right-wingers and handed out to the kids at church picnics.
Fuck. Me. Apparently because I play CoD, I am a racist, pro-life, pro-USA, anti-everyone else, pro-military gun nut. I'm actually quite the opposite. You know how many people "Thumbed" that up? 184 as of writing. And I'm not saying that was Yahtzee's fault, but he's just fanning the flames to a fire that's already huge. AND, he did it without even touching the multiplayer. That's just adding insult to injury.
Um... look, I dunno about the people who play it, but personally I'll stop callng CoD xenophobic right wing gunwank when it stops BEING xenohpobic right wing gunwank. I mean, for christs sake, they got a WAR CRIMINAL to advertise this one! Even EA isn't that stupid/evil!
The Ollie North advertisement was stupid, I'll give you that.

But how is it xenophobic? Because you're killing some people who could probably be described as "Not the main character"? Find me one thing that is xenophobic about this game. I think you're just being overly PC. You could call ALL the Assassin's Creed games xenophobic. Pretty much any game that deals with human enemies could be called xenophobic, but how many actually are? Killing people of different races does not make a game xenophobic. If you were killing them while spouting off things like "Raghead" or "Pinko," then you'd have a reason to call this game xenophobic.

Also: right-wing? What's right-wing about this game? Because it features guns? Because Ollie North was in the adverts? I didn't see any right-wing overtones in this game, and I say this as an extremely left Liberal. Again, the Ollie thing was ridiculous, but it's an advertising campaign; it has nothing to do with the actual game. And think how many stupid advertising campaigns there have been over the years that had NOTHING to do with the game. Hitman: Absolution comes to mind. Would you call that game anti-religion, or say it has some Atheist agenda? No. It was just a stupid campaign thought up by some stupid marketing guys. Just like DS2's "Your mom will hate this game," and so many more.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
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Kopikatsu said:
The main flaw in his argument is this right here:

the privilege of being in a position to make a triple-A game with cutting edge technology, some of the greatest talent in the world, and under one of the highest-profile titles in the industry. A privilege which is utterly squandered.
Here's the thing: It has the talent assigned to it, it sells like hotcakes, and it's possibly the most well known name in gaming because it is what it is. It didn't start out as an indie stealth/platformer. If they changed the formula significantly, then a lot of people who do buy it probably wouldn't and the people who wanted the change wouldn't buy it either because they'd still decry it as long as it has the name 'Call of Duty' attached.

Dishonored is considered the best stealth title of this year, for instance, and it barely broke a million as of last week. No recent COD has sold under 10 million within the first month or two. CoD is the game that people want. No more, no less. It's pretentious to claim otherwise.
Very well put. People can ***** about it all they want, but it sells and it hasn't really deviated from what it has ALWAYS been. Don't like it? I can't really get behind your arguments, because you should have KNOWN what you were buying.
I beg to differ. I absolutely loved CoD4 and World at War, as well as thoroughly enjoying Modern Warfare 2, but when I look at Black Ops 2, I can think of quite a lot of things that have changed. With each iteration the franchise has become more and more afraid to go more than 5 minutes without a huge set piece that regards player interaction with barely concealed disdain, and it's got to the point now where even people who love the basic formula of CoD, such as myself, are utterly sick to the teeth with it.

Hear is roughly my train of thought when I was watching a Let's Play of Blops 2 to see if it was worth my time (I'd been thoroughly disappointed by Blops 1 and MW3, but some things I'd heard about Blops 2 had sparked my interest again).

"Oh boy, this wing-suit/fighter jet/shoot-through-everything sniper rifle looks really cool, this might just be worth a purchase after a-oh it's over. What was that... about 5 minutes long? Oh well, maybe they'll be other chances to use them later on..."

*later on*

"Well, that was disappointing."

This game is that spoiled friend you used to have when you were a kid. The one who got over 50 presents for Christmas and couldn't wait to show (emphasis on the 'show') you all the cool new toys he had. However, because he has so many cool new toys, and so little understanding of how lucky he was, he got bored with them all one by one. Does he let *you* play with any of the toys after he gets bored with them though? No, because this kid is a ****, and the only role you play from his perspective is to sit there and admire all the cool new toys he's got.

If over 10 million people still think that's enough for them to spend $60 every year, then all power to them, but maybe, just maybe, if more of a big deal was made of games like Dishonored, enough to make the people who only really play CoD aware of its existence, then those sales figures might not look so rosy.

Either way, while the basic formula remains largely intact, Blops 2 is not the same as CoD4.
Amen, brother. CoD4 is my all-time favorite game BECAUSE it had a good single-player campaign with a good story and likable characters (among other reasons). But now, especially with Advanced Warfare, it's more of glorified high school football players running around shooting things, pausing only to spew out some more Fox News propaganda. Ghosts in particular feels like what would happen if Michael Bay made a video game.