Black & White's Starter Pokemon Officially Get Named

[Buizel91]

Oh man, I actually thought the grass one's name was Smugleaf. I even thought it was a good name. Snivy is crap compared to Smugleaf, in my opinion.

Still, I don't like these new Pokemon. I don't know, I just like the original generation's starters, and maybe the second and thirds. But they keep getting worse. I don't know how much longer they can keep thinking up new Pokemon.

How are Chimchar, Piplup and Turtig bad?

These are the first starters i have gone "meh" at, but even then their evolutions make up for it.

 

[Rachel317]

The starters don't look up to much, but have you seen their evolutions?

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

They get a hell of a lot more awesome. ESPECIALLY Oshawatt's.

Although, for me, nothing will ever beat the originals...the starters after Charmander, Squirtle and Bulbasaur just suck. I mean, the little penguin one? His final evolution could NOT have been crappier.

 

[Grounogeos]

I think the Fire-type's name is perfect.
"Tepig" -> "Tehpig" -> "The Pig"
It deserves no respect after stealing even more of Blaziken's Fire/Fighting thunder. Infernape does that too much already by being the same type and being the only one of the two who actually has useful moves.

And I'm definitely going for a Dream World Snivy. They get Antagonist, which reverses all stat changes on the user (so increases become decreases and vice-versa). Including self-inflicted changes. Can you imagine that combo'd with Leaf Storm?!

 

[Captain Bobbossa]

I really don't care about any pokemon after gold and silver. There's just to many.

 

[Motakikurushi]

Tepig? As in teh pig? Is this a joke? These are fake names, right? Please tell me these are fake names, I don't think my childhood can take it.

 

[Irridium]

Aw, I was hoping that the grass one would still be Smugleaf.

Ah well, thats what naming pokemon is for

Seems like with each passing game the starters look worse and worse.

Spoiler

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Grass or Water this gen, hmmm?

Flareon is the only fire type for me. EVER.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Snivy should work. It sounds pretentious enough, at any rate.

Seems like with each passing game the starters look worse and worse.

Just once I'd like to see a Pokemon thread where someone didn't talk about how Pokemon was better back when they were a kid.

Someone needs to do a study where they show a bunch of 8 year old kids who have never played Pokemon which starters are the best so we can finally decide once and for all if the starters are getting crappier, or if we're getting older.

I have a 10 year old brother. His first Pokemon game was Platinum. When I as him which Pokemon look the dumbest, he always says multiple ones from each generation. He actually thinks Jynx is the worst out of all of them.

So yeah, I'm tempted to believe most people who think the old Pokemon are better happen to be wearing rose-tinted glasses. Nostalgia can sometimes cloud your judgment.

I don't necessarily think all pokemon are getting worse...mostly just the starters.

Why though? How is snivy, for example, worse than bulbasaur? Bulbasaur is just dinosaur with a bulb shoved on its back. Not exactly the pinnacle of creative design.

 

[RandallJohn]

Smugleaf, and nothing will change that.

This. One thousand times this.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

I don't give a damn, his name is Smugleaf and he is awesome. >:[

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Grass or Water this gen, hmmm?

Flareon is the only fire type for me. EVER.

To bad it's movepool sucks for it's stats, he's consistently been the bottom tier Eevee-lution over the past generations due to having a terrible movepool.

 

[Double A]

Guess I'll use Oshawatt then. I'm sick of Fire-Fighting types.

The only good mutitype fire they made was Charizard. I don't freaking want my starter weak against Sabrina and f[del]r[/del]iends, OK!?

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Guess I'll use Oshawatt then. I'm sick of Fire-Fighting types.

The only good mutitype fire they made was Charizard. I don't freaking want my starter weak against Sabrina and f[del]r[/del]iends, OK!?

Except Charizard can't even go as far as to do a damn move since Gen 4 due to Steath Rock hitting him for x4 damage, in fact, Charizard is weak to the following types:

- Water; (x2)
- Rock; (x4)
- Electric; (x2)
+ Ground (x2) [Only if forced down via Gravity, Roost, Iron Ball, etc.]

All of which are fairly common attack types, he resists:

- Fire (/2)
- Grass (/4)
- Fight (/2)
- Bug (/4)
- Steel (/2)

Which is also pretty crappy, there are virtually no "high tier" Grass types and even less Bug Types, so Charizard's core defences become very situational, Steel is mostly a Defensive type rarely used for attacks and using Fire Pokemon against other Fire Pokemon is a Slowpoke-move.

Whereas any Fire-Fight starter has the following weaknesses:

- Water; (x2)
- Ground (x2)
- Flying (x2)
- Psychic (x2)

Ok so in exchange of never having a x4 Weakness and loosing a weakness to Yellow Rats, the poke is weak to two somewhat common attack types... all of which can be easily countered with a proper team, virtually no true downside as the Pokemon becomes less situational, as for resistances:

- Fire (/2)
- Grass (/2)
- Ice (/2) <- A really important resistance common to Fire that Charizard lacks;
- Bug (/4)
- Dark (/2)
- Steel (/2)

So you loose your resistance to Fighting types (not an issue, nobody's gonna have a Machamp on Machamp wrestle) and your Grass resistance is down to reducing 50% instead of 75%, Grass types aren't common... at all, and they weren't a threat before either way; In exchange you get your Ice resistance back, as well as a resistance to Dark type attacks, your Pokemon now covers a lot more terrain and can switch into, at least, 6 types of attacks without worrying and earn himself a free set-up round.



Technically: Charizard would be better off Fire-Fighting or even Fire-Dragon (This would send him up the tier list like a damn rocket)

 

[Double A]

Guess I'll use Oshawatt then. I'm sick of Fire-Fighting types.

The only good mutitype fire they made was Charizard. I don't freaking want my starter weak against Sabrina and f[del]r[/del]iends, OK!?

Except Charizard can't even go as far as to do a damn move since Gen 4 due to Steath Rock hitting him for x4 damage, in fact, Charizard is weak to the following types:

- Water; (x2)
- Rock; (x4)
- Electric; (x2)
+ Ground (x2) [Only if forced down via Gravity, Roost, Iron Ball, etc.]

All of which are fairly common attack types, he resists:

- Fire (/2)
- Grass (/4)
- Fight (/2)
- Bug (/4)
- Steel (/2)

Which is also pretty crappy, there are virtually no "high tier" Grass types and even less Bug Types, so Charizard's core defences become very situational, Steel is mostly a Defensive type rarely used for attacks and using Fire Pokemon against other Fire Pokemon is a Slowpoke-move.

Whereas any Fire-Fight starter has the following weaknesses:

- Water; (x2)
- Ground (x2)
- Flying (x2)
- Psychic (x2)

Ok so in exchange of never having a x4 Weakness and loosing a weakness to Yellow Rats, the poke is weak to two somewhat common attack types... all of which can be easily countered with a proper team, virtually no true downside as the Pokemon becomes less situational, as for resistances:

- Fire (/2)
- Grass (/2)
- Ice (/2) <- A really important resistance common to Fire that Charizard lacks;
- Bug (/4)
- Dark (/2)
- Steel (/2)

So you loose your resistance to Fighting types (not an issue, nobody's gonna have a Machamp on Machamp wrestle) and your Grass resistance is down to reducing 50% instead of 75%, Grass types aren't common... at all, and they weren't a threat before either way; In exchange you get your Ice resistance back, as well as a resistance to Dark type attacks, your Pokemon now covers a lot more terrain and can switch into, at least, 6 types of attacks without worrying and earn himself a free set-up round.



Technically: Charizard would be better off Fire-Fighting or even Fire-Dragon (This would send him up the tier list like a damn rocket)

Yeah, but psychic moves are already crazy overpowered, and psychic Pokemon will have super high SP. Atk. Fighting 'mons usually have low Sp. Def. Ground moves are super common, and flying completely screws them over unless they use the mentioned dick move. I don't play competitively, mostly with friends, so obviously few of them are going to have Gravity, I won't use Roost (I see it as a waste of a move. Why not just use Moo Moo Milk?), and why the hell would I give Charizard an Iron Ball?

Also, you clearly do NOT understand the awesomeness factor of having a dragon.

edit: you say he's a situational weapon. You know what's also a situational weapon? A shotgun.

Charizard is a shotgun.

 

[Danpascooch]

Snivy should work. It sounds pretentious enough, at any rate.

Seems like with each passing game the starters look worse and worse.

Just once I'd like to see a Pokemon thread where someone didn't talk about how Pokemon was better back when they were a kid.

Someone needs to do a study where they show a bunch of 8 year old kids who have never played Pokemon which starters are the best so we can finally decide once and for all if the starters are getting crappier, or if we're getting older.

I have a 10 year old brother. His first Pokemon game was Platinum. When I as him which Pokemon look the dumbest, he always says multiple ones from each generation. He actually thinks Jynx is the worst out of all of them.

So yeah, I'm tempted to believe most people who think the old Pokemon are better happen to be wearing rose-tinted glasses. Nostalgia can sometimes cloud your judgment.

I don't necessarily think all pokemon are getting worse...mostly just the starters.

Why though? How is snivy, for example, worse than bulbasaur? Bulbasaur is just dinosaur with a bulb shoved on its back. Not exactly the pinnacle of creative design.

Back then you could actually tell what they were though,

Bulbasaur: Dinosaur + bulb

Snivy: WTF!?

 

[adakias]

How bizarre. Oh well... I've never really been picky about this kind of thing (though I did really like Smugleaf), so I'm not gonna complain. At least we know what to call them now?? I dunno.
I've chosen the Fire starter since the original Red game, and it's been pretty tough to stick to it (I so wanted a Piplup...). This gen's a deal breaker though. Oshawott evolves into that badass narwhal walrus thing, and I want that. I want that real bad.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Back then you could actually tell what they were though,

Bulbasaur: Dinosaur + bulb

Snivy: WTF!?

Snivy is a grass snake, I think. Though really, I don't see how it's any more obscure than Chikorita.

Apparently, that's supposed to be a sauropod. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropod] Isn't it obvious?

 

[Danpascooch]

Back then you could actually tell what they were though,

Bulbasaur: Dinosaur + bulb

Snivy: WTF!?

Snivy is a grass snake, I think. Though really, I don't see how it's any more obscure than Chikorita.

Apparently, that's supposed to be a sauropod. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropod] Isn't it obvious?

I actually like Chikorita's design, it almost looks like it could be a real animal.......you know, if we had animal plant hybrids, lol.

Anyway, it kind of just looks like a green dog with a leaf.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

Seems like with each passing game the starters look worse and worse.

Especialy this set. I usually get Fire, but this time I'm going for Grass.

 

[Nostalgia]

Tepig? As in teh pig? Is this a joke? These are fake names, right? Please tell me these are fake names, I don't think my childhood can take it.

No. Not fake.

Also,
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tepid