I liked Bleach, but I lost interest a long time ago. The fact that it seems to be going on too long with overpowered villains *cough*Aizen*cough* doesn't help...
Assassin Classroom is so good it's ridiculous. And I should hate it. The stake is "destroy the world" which is the most boring of all stakes and it's a school setting and I've come to LOATHE school settings by now because it's fucking copout for easy appeal to their main audience, AC is such a fresh and fun take at both these tropes and it's just plain good.Kaimax said:Lol No.Johnisback said:it's still better than 90% of shonen manga.
According to just the popularity ranking it's not. On the last rankings for Jump Issue 4-5 2015 it's 4th from the bottom.
And going through past issues It's been constant on the 5 bottom ranked series in Jump for All around 2014.
Objectively Bleach is currently one of the worst series in Jump, it didn't get Axed earlier on because it was one of the Big 3 with Naruto and One Piece.
Better series in the current Jump
-Boku no Hero Academia, From the author of Sensei no Bulge also VERY NEW with only 20 chapters scanlated. It's main theme is Western Styled Heroes. Main plot is People born with supernatural powers are now the "normals", while the main protagonist who wasn't born with any powers are now considered abnormal.
-Assassination Classroom, from the author of Demon Detective Neuro Nōgami. It's main theme is A Class of for assassinating. Main plot is a Foreign life form destroys 70% of the moon, and threatens to also destroy earth. His only demand, in 1 Year he will teach at a school and he teaches them on how to assassinate him.
-Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma, authored by pretty new Yuuto Tsukuda (his 2nd entry into jump), it's main theme is Cooking. The Main Plot is the Male MC is sent to a elite cooking school where the graduation rate is only 10%. There he must fight with other students through cooking called "Shokugeki" to become one of the school Elites. FYI, Illustrations by Saeki Shun AKA "Tosh"
That's just 3 of the newer generation that's constantly fighting for the top spot in Jump (One Piece is still consistently on top too). Those 3 rarely leaves the Top 5.
Johnisback said:...objectively all shonen is crap...
Please tell me more, if you can. I've been looking for a new series to read. Boku no Hero Academia: The author of "Barrage Of The Battle Star!" wrote this?! It's a superhero story as well, with the story that sounds like the main character is almost like Batman? Sold!Kaimax said:Lol No.Johnisback said:it's still better than 90% of shonen manga.
According to just the popularity ranking it's not. On the last rankings for Jump Issue 4-5 2015 it's 4th from the bottom.
And going through past issues It's been constant on the 5 bottom ranked series in Jump for All around 2014.
Objectively Bleach is currently one of the worst series in Jump, it didn't get Axed earlier on because it was one of the Big 3 with Naruto and One Piece.
Better series in the current Jump
-Boku no Hero Academia, From the author of Sensei no Bulge also VERY NEW with only 20 chapters scanlated. It's main theme is Western Styled Heroes. Main plot is People born with supernatural powers are now the "normals", while the main protagonist who wasn't born with any powers are now considered abnormal.
-Assassination Classroom, from the author of Demon Detective Neuro Nōgami. It's main theme is A Class of for assassinating. Main plot is a Foreign life form destroys 70% of the moon, and threatens to also destroy earth. His only demand, in 1 Year he will teach at a school and he teaches them on how to assassinate him.
-Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma, authored by pretty new Yuuto Tsukuda (his 2nd entry into jump), it's main theme is Cooking. The Main Plot is the Male MC is sent to a elite cooking school where the graduation rate is only 10%. There he must fight with other students through cooking called "Shokugeki" to become one of the school Elites. FYI, Illustrations by Saeki Shun AKA "Tosh"
That's just 3 of the newer generation that's constantly fighting for the top spot in Jump (One Piece is still consistently on top too). Those 3 rarely leaves the Top 5.
Its nothing like Toriko or Fighting Foodons. Its just cooking, there aren't really any super powers, no one really ever gets punched. Its just cooking. The art is amazing the series is literally food porn(kinda funny since that's what its artist used to do.) Think of it kinda like anime Iron Chef.ArcaneGamer said:Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma: Hmm...this, aside from Hero Academia, is the one that interested me the most. Mostly, thanks to shows like Toriko, or some anime I watched a while ago called "Fighting Foodons". Is this series similar, and if not, what does it do differently?
For AssClass (lol), it's main story is clearly written on its sleeve. The Teacher is a "foreign Lifeform" who looks like a yellow humanoid thing with tentacles for hands and feet. He's nigh impossible to kill able to move at mach speeds and has super regeneration. His only demand is to teach a class filled with the rejects of this one school for 1 year and besides teaching them how to kill them, he also tries to make them the top students of the school. Apparently the Government has put a bounty of 10 billion Yen to whoever can kill him. The twist to that is, this teacher also provided the one material that can slow his regeneration and kill him.ArcaneGamer said:Assassination Classroom: I've heard of this, but I've been unsure if I should check it out. Mind telling me a little more? Why should I read this? Pitch it to me. Because the premise certainly SOUNDS interesting.
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma: Hmm...this, aside from Hero Academia, is the one that interested me the most. Mostly, thanks to shows like Toriko, or some anime I watched a while ago called "Fighting Foodons". Is this series similar, and if not, what does it do differently?
The most damning thing that can be said about any story; "the fans did/do it better!"Lieju said:Plus it's one of those series where a lot of the fanworks are actually better than canon and expand on stuff in interesting ways, so there's that.
True that. Some of the fanfic stuff is quite awesome, and so much more rewarding to read than the actual story. They have coherence, good characters, no ass-pulls and a god damn plot.Mangod said:The most damning thing that can be said about any story; "the fans did/do it better!"Lieju said:Plus it's one of those series where a lot of the fanworks are actually better than canon and expand on stuff in interesting ways, so there's that.
But yeah, Bleach really should have ended after Aizen. And preferably without ass-pulling Ichigo's last power-up. My personal preference would have been if Aizen's and Orihime's "I reject your reality and substitue my own" powers had clashed with each other and brought Aizen down from Mount Omnipotent to, you know, actually killable.